What is the primary reason for the end-time Tribulation?

Okay now I've watched it, and LOVE Chuck BTW, but I believe this is VERY easily exsplained and comes no where close to the meaning he was trying to suggest.

The Disciples where asking about when will the temple be destroyed brick off of brick and it says:

10 Then he said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 There will be great earthquakes, and in various places famines and pestilences. And there will be terrors and great signs from heaven.

Okay we're tracking no problem the He says:

12 But before all this they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors for my name's sake. 13 This will be your opportunity to bear witness. 14 Settle it therefore in your minds not to meditate beforehand how to answer, 15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries will be able to withstand or contradict. 16 You will be delivered up even by parents and brothers[c] and relatives and friends, and some of you they will put to death. 17 You will be hated by all for my name's sake. 18 But not a hair of your head will perish. 19 By your endurance you will gain your lives.

These are the things that will be taking place before the 70AD temple destruction, they will be delivered to synagogues and prisons, should bear witness, and all that. So for the 40 years (a generation by the way) between Jesus ascension and sitting on His Throne at the right hand of the Father, these are the things that would be happening. And did happen exactly that way just like Jesus said.

NOW Jesus is jumping back to the main subject and telling the (the more gentile styled writing of Luke to a more gentile audience mentions the armies surrounding the city as a warning to get out and not the abomination of desolation the the Jews were familiar with, and also the more Hebrew centric writings of Matthew were written more to an audience that understood what that was.

Jesus Foretells Destruction of Jerusalem
20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it, 22 for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written. 23 Alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days! For there will be great distress upon the earth and wrath against this people. 24 They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive among all nations, and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.


Like I said before the scripture fits this view better tan any option in my opinion. Genius Chuck Missler here is trying to make the text mean his idea more than letting the text shape his understanding in my opinion.

I took to long on the last comment to make these few corrections.
Okay now I've watched it, and LOVE Chuck BTW, but I believe this is VERY easily explained and comes no where close to the meaning he was trying to suggest.

The Disciples where asking about when will the temple be destroyed brick off of brick and it says:

10 Then he said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 There will be great earthquakes, and in various places famines and pestilences. And there will be terrors and great signs from heaven.

Okay we're tracking no problem then He says:

12 But before all this they will lay their hands on you and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors for my name's sake. 13 This will be your opportunity to bear witness. 14 Settle it therefore in your minds not to meditate beforehand how to answer, 15 for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which none of your adversaries will be able to withstand or contradict. 16 You will be delivered up even by parents and brothers and relatives and friends, and some of you they will put to death. 17 You will be hated by all for my name's sake. 18 But not a hair of your head will perish. 19 By your endurance you will gain your lives.

These are the things that will be taking place before the 70AD temple destruction, they will be delivered to synagogues and prisons, should bear witness, and all that. So for the 40 years (a generation by the way) between Jesus ascension and sitting on His Throne at the right hand of the Father and the destruction of the temple, these are the things that would be happening. And did happen exactly that way, just like Jesus said BTW.

NOW Jesus is jumping back to the main subject and telling them (the more gentile styled writing of Luke to a more gentile audience) about the armies that will surround the city as a warning to get out and did not the abomination of desolation that the Jews would familiar with to describe it for that reason. I also want to mention that the more Hebrew centric writings of Matthew were written to an audience that would have understood what that was. That's what they are different in this way.

Jesus Foretells Destruction of Jerusalem
20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation has come near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and let not those who are out in the country enter it, 22 for these are days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written. 23 Alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days! For there will be great distress upon the earth and wrath against this people. 24 They will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive among all nations, and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.


Like I said before the scripture fits this view better tan any option in my opinion. Genius Chuck Missler here is trying to make the text mean his idea more than letting the text shape his understanding in my opinion.

The tribulation was part of what ended the way of temple life .

Jerusalem watched around 1 million people killed plus their Temple destroyed.

God said, Tribulation would be like NOTHING before or ever saw:

Noah's flood was worse than 70 AD

Sodom, literal BRIMSTONE from heaven destroying TWO CITIES, not just a single Jerusalem, but TWO CITIES!

usa wars and WWI - WWII make 70 AD look like taking candy from a baby.

how is 70 AD the GREATEST TRIBULATION ever known to men?

Consider that it is not just the events of circa 70 A.D. - but, that it also includes all of the events from then until some point in our future.

I know this may not sound like it makes much sense; however, you must look very carefully at what the Bible actually says.

The Bible tells us exactly - in relative 'event' terms - when the 'great tribulation' (that Jesus spoke of) starts - and, when it ends.

History has shown us with certainty that the 'starting' mark-in-time was circa 70 A.D. - but, has yet to show us the 'ending' mark-in-time.

It may sound rather strange to most; however, it is in the Bible, and I can show it to you - and, will be happy to at a later time...

(work lunch break almost over)

Just to play the other side not that I disagree with you but.. they are wrong your not? Reason? It was is about Israel. Since the start this has always been about taking Gods word to the world. Israel didn't. For God so loved the world. He picked Israel so when I say all about Israel this is what I mean.

"The historical viewpoint of the church up until the last few minutes when this pre mill thing popped up in very recent history"

300-400AD Hymn writer (anyone if you search can find read see those scrolls) wrote about Christ coming before the great tribulation. I found this thought I discovered something great yet.. na others known today found it and then many before 300-400AD talked preach about Christ coming before the great tribulation. So "the historical viewpoint of the Church".. seems well seems we can be wrong.

I have heard this 1830 I read it yet pre Trib was also talked about wrote about in 1600. I can keep going I don't know why some won't search. Now ask me what does all this prove? Nothing other then it was talked about preached about. Oh I know a great man of God with a big smile on his face saying asking "who has ever read the bible and come away with Pre-trib?" He believed it has only come by some teaching in Church. A.. here I am at 62.. what I come away with. Now teaching or preaching I would never say PRE TIRB is fact for they "pre mid post" there is no scripture for. With each view some scriptura will be left out and also said "what that verse really means".

So I just tell the truth. I was not promised tomorrow I will be watching ready now. Now is when He will come and I will not miss Him. I can not say what happens to those that do no believe are not watching. See my thinking is.. why would I ever believe some man/woman that does not have any more information then I can find? Yeah no one here knows. They read the word and them come to some conclusion. Not putting my faith in some human.. I watch ready now

Correct (which was why God FORCED Israel into the realm of the Gentiles via war and deportation BTW).

However, there is no doubt whatsoever that the Bible is perfectly clear: during the 70th week of Daniel (after the rapture of the Church), Israel will once again be front and center preaching to the world about the Kingdom of God. In other words, Israel will finally assume and properly discharge the task committed to them so long ago.

Furthermore, it is likewise perfectly clear that a regenerated Israel will be the preachers and priests to the ENTIRE WORLD during the millennial reign.

Don't forget the Dark Ages - and, every other major world 'tribulation' that there has been during that time - including the part yet future.

Jesus did not say that there would be a short-term 'event' called [The] Great Tribulation; rather, He said that there shall be 'great tribulation'.

We are the ones who have "invented" the 'event title' of [The] 'Great Tribulation' - and, think of it as if it were a singular short-term 'event'.

We are told of the 'starting' point in this verse:

Matthew 24:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

We are told of the 'ending' point in this verse:

Matthew 24:

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

The 'great tribulation' that Jesus spoke of is "sandwiched" between these two statements.

We know when it begins. We know when it ends.

However, we must be able to properly understand and interpret these verses along with the surrounding verses - in the context of the Olivet Discourse - along with its counterparts in Mark and Luke.

A proper understanding and interpretation will lead to the following conclusion:

And, this is how we know that the 'great tribulation' that Jesus spoke of is not a short-term 'event'.

You have to look at things on God's time scale.

Bible prophecy has been "unfolding" over the last ~2000 years.

Bible prophecy is not a bunch of stuff shoved into a closet and waiting for the day that the door will be opened and everything fall out suddenly - it does not work that way.

On God's time scale, everything is steady-as-she-goes for the long-haul.

The folks that think it has all occurred already and the folks that think it has all yet to occur - are all wrong - because, they don't understand God's time scale.

Revelation 13:7 is past.
Revelation 13:8 is future.

To understand why this is, you must understand God's time scale and the fact that a lot of prophetic scripture covers a lot longer span of time than most people are taught to think [about].

But who is the "THEY" Jesus said "they" would deliver "YOU" up unto the "Synagogues"(Jewish?) and to the governors? Seems more likely Jesus is saying to the Christians(you) that they(the Jews) would deliver the Christians up to the Synagogues(Jewish) https://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/21-12.htm

In a word - 'Rome' - but also including other 'anti-Christian factions' - all against the Christians during the "early years" of before-during-after the events of circa 70 A.D.

This is not talking about things in our future - it is talking about things in the 'near' future of 1st-century Christians.

The phrase 'But before all these' in Luke 21:12 is significant here...

With regard to 'synagogues' - remember that the Jewish 'authority' (supervised by Rome) - judged, sentenced, and punished "their own" instead of Rome doing all of it. And, they were against the 'Christian movement' that Jesus started. (their POV)

Take a look at the small chart/table that is below the main chart/table - titled 'Chronological Order' - on this web page:

http://mywebsite.us/BibleStudy/Olivet_Discourse.html

It should help illustrate where these things fit into the chronological order of events.

Amen!

Sorry man you don't get to just decide what's worse and declare victory over the conversation, just because you see something as worse does not mean it is. The event has been described in historical accounts with situations like women eating their own baby, and the streets flowing with blood. To just say "this that and the other is worse", with no real objective way of measuring it is honestly kind of empty to be a bit blunt. I say it was the worse just like God said it would be, so what now? Who's opinion is right? Neither one of us was at any of these event's to know firsthand when we get right down to it.