Led by the Spirit

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Gideon300

Well-known member
Mar 18, 2021
5,354
3,151
113
#1
Some seem to think that we have only the Bible to guide us. I love God's word and I encourage everyone to study it diligently. However, there is the moment by moment leading of the Holy Spirit also. If we are to be effective in God's Kingdom, we need that guidance as well as the Word.

An example. I ride a bicycle a few times a week. I have to stop for a rest as I'm not that fit. I stopped at a bench where another man was resting also. We got talking and I told him that I was a Christian. He responded that he was also. My wife and I met him for lunch yesterday. It was amazing. He knew many of the people that I knew from the late 1970's. He was saved at the church where I was going. Someone I knew had invited him to the church. He knew the people I shared a house with.

We were able to have good fellowship, mostly because he is really born again. It helps a lot that we have so much in common. I don't know why God brought us together. Perhaps it is just so we can pray for him. He's 68, does not look it, and is seeking a wife. We have prayed that he meet the right woman who will be a blessing and one that he can be a blessing to also.

This kind of "God-incidence" is a normal part of life for us. Some deny that God moves in this way. I can assure you that He does. God is not far off and remote. He is living, loving, caring and leading continually. If we seek Him, He will lead us.
 

JaumeJ

Senior Member
Jul 2, 2011
21,429
6,707
113
#3
Some seem to think that we have only the Bible to guide us. I love God's word and I encourage everyone to study it diligently. However, there is the moment by moment leading of the Holy Spirit also. If we are to be effective in God's Kingdom, we need that guidance as well as the Word.

An example. I ride a bicycle a few times a week. I have to stop for a rest as I'm not that fit. I stopped at a bench where another man was resting also. We got talking and I told him that I was a Christian. He responded that he was also. My wife and I met him for lunch yesterday. It was amazing. He knew many of the people that I knew from the late 1970's. He was saved at the church where I was going. Someone I knew had invited him to the church. He knew the people I shared a house with.

We were able to have good fellowship, mostly because he is really born again. It helps a lot that we have so much in common. I don't know why God brought us together. Perhaps it is just so we can pray for him. He's 68, does not look it, and is seeking a wife. We have prayed that he meet the right woman who will be a blessing and one that he can be a blessing to also.

This kind of "God-incidence" is a normal part of life for us. Some deny that God moves in this way. I can assure you that He does. God is not far off and remote. He is living, loving, caring and leading continually. If we seek Him, He will lead us.
Another thought, experience, that is of the Holy Spirit, is that when these things occur, they become as something quite natural, that is being lead to someone who is lead by the Spirit, a gift of knowledge, a healing, etc. They do not seem miraculous when they occur, but afterwards we realize God has worked either through us or just plain for us. He is always caring for us, every instant, amen. Thank you for this beautiful sharing.
 

wattie

Senior Member
Feb 24, 2009
3,236
1,130
113
New Zealand
#4
Knowledge of the Bible leads to God prompting our spirit by bringing verses to our minds.

It also contextualises situations so we know what God's will is in certain circumstances.

Going by the bible IS being led by the Spirit. Of course for the regenerated this is where the Holy Spirit really works
 

Dino246

Senior Member
Jun 30, 2015
25,472
13,785
113
#5
Knowledge of the Bible leads to God prompting our spirit by bringing verses to our minds.

It also contextualises situations so we know what God's will is in certain circumstances.

Going by the bible IS being led by the Spirit. Of course for the regenerated this is where the Holy Spirit really works
Do you believe that the Holy Spirit speaks to believers outside of Scripture?

If not, how do you explain the thousands of testimonies of Christians who say otherwise?
 

wattie

Senior Member
Feb 24, 2009
3,236
1,130
113
New Zealand
#6
Do you believe that the Holy Spirit speaks to believers outside of Scripture?

If not, how do you explain the thousands of testimonies of Christians who say otherwise?
He does speak to individuals outside of scripture. That is how individual will is ascertained.. but it is through His Word.. it is through His scripture. A prompting that is related to His Word. God will not contradict His Word either.
 

Gideon300

Well-known member
Mar 18, 2021
5,354
3,151
113
#7
Another thought, experience, that is of the Holy Spirit, is that when these things occur, they become as something quite natural, that is being lead to someone who is lead by the Spirit, a gift of knowledge, a healing, etc. They do not seem miraculous when they occur, but afterwards we realize God has worked either through us or just plain for us. He is always caring for us, every instant, amen. Thank you for this beautiful sharing.
Good point. It seems that God usually leaves us with a choice. Was that "coincidence" (no such thing) or God? I've learned to give God the glory. It was not always so.
 

Dino246

Senior Member
Jun 30, 2015
25,472
13,785
113
#8
He does speak to individuals outside of scripture. That is how individual will is ascertained.. but it is through His Word.. it is through His scripture. A prompting that is related to His Word. God will not contradict His Word either.
So... you don't believe that God speaks unless it is through His word.

Dude, you're missing out. I'd tell you a few stories that happened just today but you wouldn't believe them. All I will say is that God definitely speaks "outside His written word".
 

Gideon300

Well-known member
Mar 18, 2021
5,354
3,151
113
#9
Knowledge of the Bible leads to God prompting our spirit by bringing verses to our minds.

It also contextualises situations so we know what God's will is in certain circumstances.

Going by the bible IS being led by the Spirit. Of course for the regenerated this is where the Holy Spirit really works
The Bible did not instruct me to take a break from my bike ride at a certain place. The Bible did not lead my brother to the same bench.
I did not get a Bible verse to instruct me. Jesus was guided by the only Bible He had, the Old Testament. There was nothing there that told Him to wait three days before going to Bethany when Lazarus was sick. Proverbs says not to withhold good if it is in you power to do it. So it seemed that Jesus was holding back a blessing.

The Bible is objective truth. The Holy Spirit leads us moment by moment, if we will heed his voice. Often I don't realise it is the Holy Spirit until after the event. Sometimes it's clear. Never will the Holy Spirit contradict God's word. Jesus did more good by delaying than by rushing to see Lazarus. Only He saw that at the time.
 

JaumeJ

Senior Member
Jul 2, 2011
21,429
6,707
113
#10
Once, while sharing the Word with a fellow student at the U of Il., I asked him something when we were finishing up our talk. Now this student was up from Cairo, Illinois, and he had a strong southern accent. I had never spoken to him, no, he had come to me to ask questions. As we were ending our conversation, for no apparent reason, I said to him, "When you go back to your home town, Haifa(in Israel), please greet all you friends on my behalf.
His mouth dropped open and his eyes became as big as plates, and with his very southern drawl, he asked me, "How did you know I was born in Haifa?" Without a pause, I replied, "God told me."
None of that conversation was planned, and I did not know this person, nor of him previously. Oh, he had ddda document which he showed me with his birthjplace specified on it. Sure enough! Haifa, Israel. God did it, for I do not read minds....
This is just one of many "odd" occurrences in my walk with Jesus Yeshua.
 

ResidentAlien

Well-known member
Apr 21, 2021
8,312
3,618
113
#11
Some seem to think that we have only the Bible to guide us. I love God's word and I encourage everyone to study it diligently. However, there is the moment by moment leading of the Holy Spirit also. If we are to be effective in God's Kingdom, we need that guidance as well as the Word.

An example. I ride a bicycle a few times a week. I have to stop for a rest as I'm not that fit. I stopped at a bench where another man was resting also. We got talking and I told him that I was a Christian. He responded that he was also. My wife and I met him for lunch yesterday. It was amazing. He knew many of the people that I knew from the late 1970's. He was saved at the church where I was going. Someone I knew had invited him to the church. He knew the people I shared a house with.

We were able to have good fellowship, mostly because he is really born again. It helps a lot that we have so much in common. I don't know why God brought us together. Perhaps it is just so we can pray for him. He's 68, does not look it, and is seeking a wife. We have prayed that he meet the right woman who will be a blessing and one that he can be a blessing to also.

This kind of "God-incidence" is a normal part of life for us. Some deny that God moves in this way. I can assure you that He does. God is not far off and remote. He is living, loving, caring and leading continually. If we seek Him, He will lead us.
There's a common misconception that those of us who believe in the authority of God's word aren't led by the Holy Spirit. This is a mischaracterization, usually by Charismatics. Scriptures teaches us how to walk in the Spirit and in truth; and how to conduct ourselves while following the Holy Spirit. It provides a framework.

Charismatics falsely accuse us of putting God in a box, or worshipping a book. They do this because they think being led by Spirit is a free for all where anything goes. This simply isn't true. God's word supplies us with sound doctrine; it teaches us how to correctly understand the Holy Spirit.

"Let all things be done decently and in order." 1 Corinthians 14:40

"But the fruit of the Spirit is . . . self-control." Galatians 5:22-23
 

Pilgrimshope

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2020
14,148
5,722
113
#12
There's a common misconception that those of us who believe in the authority of God's word aren't led by the Holy Spirit. This is a mischaracterization, usually by Charismatics. Scriptures teaches us how to walk in the Spirit and in truth; and how to conduct ourselves while following the Holy Spirit. It provides a framework.

Charismatics falsely accuse us of putting God in a box, or worshipping a book. They do this because they think being led by Spirit is a free for all where anything goes. This simply isn't true. God's word supplies us with sound doctrine; it teaches us how to correctly understand the Holy Spirit.

"Let all things be done decently and in order." 1 Corinthians 14:40

"But the fruit of the Spirit is . . . self-control." Galatians 5:22-23
the words in the Bible came from the Holy Ghost they are his words
 

Karlon

Well-known member
Mar 8, 2023
2,604
1,173
113
#13
Some seem to think that we have only the Bible to guide us. I love God's word and I encourage everyone to study it diligently. However, there is the moment by moment leading of the Holy Spirit also. If we are to be effective in God's Kingdom, we need that guidance as well as the Word.

An example. I ride a bicycle a few times a week. I have to stop for a rest as I'm not that fit. I stopped at a bench where another man was resting also. We got talking and I told him that I was a Christian. He responded that he was also. My wife and I met him for lunch yesterday. It was amazing. He knew many of the people that I knew from the late 1970's. He was saved at the church where I was going. Someone I knew had invited him to the church. He knew the people I shared a house with.

We were able to have good fellowship, mostly because he is really born again. It helps a lot that we have so much in common. I don't know why God brought us together. Perhaps it is just so we can pray for him. He's 68, does not look it, and is seeking a wife. We have prayed that he meet the right woman who will be a blessing and one that he can be a blessing to also.

This kind of "God-incidence" is a normal part of life for us. Some deny that God moves in this way. I can assure you that He does. God is not far off and remote. He is living, loving, caring and leading continually. If we seek Him, He will lead us.
just today, a guy came up to me, i don't know him, & said, 'hi, good to see you, you're doing a good job". (i was trimming bushes & hedges on a big job). so i was making believe i knew him because i know, not all the time, you recognize someone soon. so i immediately started talking about Jesus to him, recited a few verses, & i believe it was the Holy Spirit moving me that way! in addition to that, around here lately, strange events have been occurring but on the good side.
 

wattie

Senior Member
Feb 24, 2009
3,236
1,130
113
New Zealand
#14
So... you don't believe that God speaks unless it is through His word.

Dude, you're missing out. I'd tell you a few stories that happened just today but you wouldn't believe them. All I will say is that God definitely speaks "outside His written word".
I agree He does. And it will be completely related to scripture.
 

Dino246

Senior Member
Jun 30, 2015
25,472
13,785
113
#15
I agree He does. And it will be completely related to scripture.
In these cases, related only in the sense that it is the Lord of all the earth who was speaking, and He is the Author of Scripture. Otherwise, His conversations with me had nothing to do with Scripture.
 

Dino246

Senior Member
Jun 30, 2015
25,472
13,785
113
#16
Charismatics falsely accuse us of putting God in a box, or worshipping a book. They do this because they think being led by Spirit is a free for all where anything goes.
Wow... you complain about incorrect generalizations, and then blatantly commit an incorrect generalization.

Romans 2:1.
 

Gideon300

Well-known member
Mar 18, 2021
5,354
3,151
113
#17
There's a common misconception that those of us who believe in the authority of God's word aren't led by the Holy Spirit. This is a mischaracterization, usually by Charismatics. Scriptures teaches us how to walk in the Spirit and in truth; and how to conduct ourselves while following the Holy Spirit. It provides a framework.

Charismatics falsely accuse us of putting God in a box, or worshipping a book. They do this because they think being led by Spirit is a free for all where anything goes. This simply isn't true. God's word supplies us with sound doctrine; it teaches us how to correctly understand the Holy Spirit.

"Let all things be done decently and in order." 1 Corinthians 14:40

"But the fruit of the Spirit is . . . self-control." Galatians 5:22-23
One or two are bit touchy on this subject, so I'm glad I raised it. I teach the Bible. I am absolutely convinced of its authority. I believe in 6 x 24 hour days of literal creation. I also will quote the worst bit of pastoral advice I've ever heard: "Read the Bible. All of it. Then put into practice." Try that for a few days and send for the shrink because it will drive you nuts.

I've explained exactly what I meant and I'm not going over it again. Read the book of Acts and how the Holy Spirit led the apostles. You won't find it in their Bible. (The Old Testament). They were led by the Spirit as well as teaching the Word.
 

Gideon300

Well-known member
Mar 18, 2021
5,354
3,151
113
#18
I agree He does. And it will be completely related to scripture.
How about this:
"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." There, Romans 8:14, King James for the i dotters and t crossers. It does not say as many as are led by a book.
 

JaumeJ

Senior Member
Jul 2, 2011
21,429
6,707
113
#19
just today, a guy came up to me, i don't know him, & said, 'hi, good to see you, you're doing a good job". (i was trimming bushes & hedges on a big job). so i was making believe i knew him because i know, not all the time, you recognize someone soon. so i immediately started talking about Jesus to him, recited a few verses, & i believe it was the Holy Spirit moving me that way! in addition to that, around here lately, strange events have been occurring but on the good side.
Jeeo yo the good work(s).
 

wattie

Senior Member
Feb 24, 2009
3,236
1,130
113
New Zealand
#20
How about this:
"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." There, Romans 8:14, King James for the i dotters and t crossers. It does not say as many as are led by a book.
You guys aren't getting what I'm saying.

God obviously has individual will for each believer...that isn't in itself actual scripture. I agree with that

But this .. will match the situations in scripture in how we approach things.

For eg.. if you have someone in your church sin against you.. you'd take another person with you and sit down with the offender to discuss it.

Jesus would then bless that..because it's using the Matthew 18 process.

See what I mean?