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reneweddaybyday said:
xy gonadal dysgenesis is also known as Swyer syndrome:

Swyer syndrome is a condition that affects sex development. Sex development usually follows a particular path based on an individual's chromosomes; however, in Swyer syndrome, sex development is not typical for the affected individual's chromosomal pattern.​
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Chromosomes contain the genetic instructions for how the body develops and functions. People usually have 46 chromosomes in each cell. Two of the 46 chromosomes, known as X and Y, are called sex chromosomes because they help determine whether a person will develop male or female reproductive structures. Girls and women typically have two X chromosomes (46,XX karyotype), while boys and men typically have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome (46,XY karyotype). In Swyer syndrome, individuals have one X chromosome and one Y chromosome in each cell, which is the pattern typically found in boys and men; however, they have female reproductive structures.​
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Because they appear female on the outside, babies with Swyer syndrome are usually raised as girls and develop a female gender identity, which is a person's sense of their gender (girl, boy, a combination, or neither). Swyer syndrome may be identified before birth, at birth, or later when a child does not go through puberty as usual. Because they do not have functional ovaries that produce hormones, affected individuals often begin hormone replacement therapy during early adolescence to start puberty, causing the breasts and uterus to grow, and eventually leading to menstruation. Hormone replacement therapy is also important for bone health and helps reduce the risk of low bone density (osteopenia) and fragile bones (osteoporosis). Women with Swyer syndrome do not produce eggs (ova), but if they have a uterus, they may be able to become pregnant with a donated egg or embryo.​


in reading the above article, it appears that for the most part babies with Swyer syndrome are raised as girls ... they are given hormone replacement therapy at an early age ... female hormones.

Not sure what would happen if the baby was raised as a boy and given male hormones ??? Do the medical professionals just assume female because the baby "looks" like a girl at birth ... yet has XY chromosomes at the 23rd pairing???

Seems to me that XY = male ... however, I cannot answer for the health professionals who make the decision at the time of birth.


Matthew 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female
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I thought I had remembered correctly.

how, they got the results was in the video. But I'm going to take your advice as to why both female and male identical twin where
Born with xy chromosomes



Just another question is it possible this can happen in many births but only one egg doesn't survive or develop further
 
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Fundaamental said:
fair enough I do not know the reason for the xy chromosome in both twins, at birth, but they where female and male twins.
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did Swyer syndrome occur in twins???

The twins we discussed were sesquizygotic twins ... which means one ova was fertilized by two sperm. Did one or both sesquisygotic twins also have Swyer syndrome?

In sesquizygotic twins, the babies could both be female ... both could be male ... one could be male and one female. Sesquizygotic twins are not identical.

In identical twins, one ova is fertilized by one sperm after which the embryo splits into two ... both of which would be the same sex and both share the same DNA.

In fraternal twins, two ova are released by the mother and each is fertilized by the sperm of the father (separate ova and separate sperm). Fraternal twins share 1/2 DNA (50% maternal / 50% paternal).

I gave birth fraternal twin boys. Each embryo had his own amniotic sac and each had his own placenta ... so two amniotic sacs and two placentae.

Identical twins share the same amniotic sac and share the same placenta ... so one amniotic sac and one placenta. Identical twins share all DNA (100% maternal / 100% paternal).

Sesquizygotic twins share the same placenta but each has its own amniotic sac ... two amniotic sacs and one placenta. Sesquizygotic twins are also siblings born at the same time ... sesquizygotic twins are considered partially identical. Sesquizygotic twins share 3/4 DNA (100% maternal / 50% paternal).


I believe conjoined twins are identical ... they would be the same sex and share one amniotic sac. I believe conjoined twins are the result of only partial separation of the one embryo involved in an identical twin pregnancy ... not that one embryo gravitated toward a separate embryo and then the two embryos fused together.

I do not believe an embryo could get through its own amniotic sac ... then get through the amniotic sac of its twin ... gravitate to the twin embryo and somehow fuse to it.

I don't even know if an embryo can survive outside the amniotic sac ... much less break through its own sac and the sac of the other embryo.




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I know all fetis will be female until a change takes place in the womb .
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I do not believe all fetuses are female. I believe a fetus is either male or female at inception.

Here is information you might find interesting:

All human individuals—whether they have an XX, an XY, or an atypical sex chromosome combination—begin development from the same starting point. During early development the gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated; that is, all fetal genitalia are the same and are phenotypically female. After approximately 6 to 7 weeks of gestation, however, the expression of a gene on the Y chromosome induces changes that result in the development of the testes. Thus, this gene is singularly important in inducing testis development. The production of testosterone at about 9 weeks of gestation results in the development of the reproductive tract and the masculinization (the normal development of male sex characteristics) of the brain and genitalia.​


From the article:

"During early development the gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated" ... this means

Undifferentiated = a term used to describe cells or tissues that do not have specialized ("mature") structures or functions.​
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Phenotypically = in a way that relates to the physical characteristics of something living, especially those characteristics that can be seen (Cambridge Dictionary).​
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Not from the article but I found this when I looked up "undifferentiated":

What initiates the undifferentiated gonads to become the testes?​

There is a gene located on the short arm (top half) of the Y chromosome, called "SRY,"which, if present, will cause the undifferentiated gonad to become testes around the sixth week of fetal life. At the same time, shrinkage of what would have been the female reproductive tract occurs. As the testes produce testosterone, the phallus (penis), scrotum and urethra form. Later, during the seventh to eighth month of the pregnancy, the testes will descend into the scrotum.​

If there is no SRY gene, the gonad will usually differentiate into an ovary. Likewise, the female reproductive tract will continue to develop, forming the uterus and fallopian tubes. At the same time, shrinkage of what would have become the male reproductive organs occurs.​


When I viewed the video you submitted at Post 355, there was a statement (starts at approx 50 seconds in) indicating that "roughly one in every two thousand babies are born intersex each year". I googled "how many babies are born each year globally" and the answer is 140 million.

when the video indicated 1 in every 2,000, it seemed (to me) to be a high percentage ...

but in reality, the percentage is very minimal when compared to 140 million ...
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Just another question is it possible this can happen in many births but only one egg doesn't survive or develop further
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yes ... I have heard about women who had twin (or more) pregnancy and only one infant survived.

I have also heard of twin pregnancy where one baby was larger and weighed more than its smaller twin. I've heard people say that the larger twin "took away" nourishment from the smaller twin.

I sometimes wonder if it has more to do with gestational age ... if mother releases more than one ova ... and one of the ova is fertilized days or even weeks before the other ova, the first fertilized ova has had more time to develop and mature.

When I had my twins, my pediatrician commented that one of my boys appeared to him to be a week to two weeks younger (gestationally) than his brother (the younger twin's lungs were not fully developed and he was covered with lanugo).

I gave birth to my boys at week 36 (full gestation = 40 weeks).

If my pediatrician was correct, then one was born at 36 weeks ... the other at 34 to 35 weeks ... very interesting ...

Another factor in the difference in size/weight of twins could be the umbilical cord ... if an umbilical cord is twisted or knotted, that could affect the flow between the placenta and the fetus resulting in decreased nourishment and oxygen to the fetus.
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did Swyer syndrome occur in twins???

The twins we discussed were sesquizygotic twins ... which means one ova was fertilized by two sperm. Did one or both sesquisygotic twins also have Swyer syndrome?

In sesquizygotic twins, the babies could both be female ... both could be male ... one could be male and one female. Sesquizygotic twins are not identical.

In identical twins, one ova is fertilized by one sperm after which the embryo splits into two ... both of which would be the same sex and both share the same DNA.

In fraternal twins, two ova are released by the mother and each is fertilized by the sperm of the father (separate ova and separate sperm). Fraternal twins share 1/2 DNA (50% maternal / 50% paternal).

I gave birth fraternal twin boys. Each embryo had his own amniotic sac and each had his own placenta ... so two amniotic sacs and two placentae.

Identical twins share the same amniotic sac and share the same placenta ... so one amniotic sac and one placenta. Identical twins share all DNA (100% maternal / 100% paternal).

Sesquizygotic twins share the same placenta but each has its own amniotic sac ... two amniotic sacs and one placenta. Sesquizygotic twins are also siblings born at the same time ... sesquizygotic twins are considered partially identical. Sesquizygotic twins share 3/4 DNA (100% maternal / 50% paternal).


I believe conjoined twins are identical ... they would be the same sex and share one amniotic sac. I believe conjoined twins are the result of only partial separation of the one embryo involved in an identical twin pregnancy ... not that one embryo gravitated toward a separate embryo and then the two embryos fused together.

I do not believe an embryo could get through its own amniotic sac ... then get through the amniotic sac of its twin ... gravitate to the twin embryo and somehow fuse to it.

I don't even know if an embryo can survive outside the amniotic sac ... much less break through its own sac and the sac of the other embryo.





I do not believe all fetuses are female. I believe a fetus is either male or female at inception.

Here is information you might find interesting:

All human individuals—whether they have an XX, an XY, or an atypical sex chromosome combination—begin development from the same starting point. During early development the gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated; that is, all fetal genitalia are the same and are phenotypically female. After approximately 6 to 7 weeks of gestation, however, the expression of a gene on the Y chromosome induces changes that result in the development of the testes. Thus, this gene is singularly important in inducing testis development. The production of testosterone at about 9 weeks of gestation results in the development of the reproductive tract and the masculinization (the normal development of male sex characteristics) of the brain and genitalia.​


From the article:

"During early development the gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated" ... this means

Undifferentiated = a term used to describe cells or tissues that do not have specialized ("mature") structures or functions.​
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Phenotypically = in a way that relates to the physical characteristics of something living, especially those characteristics that can be seen (Cambridge Dictionary).​
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Not from the article but I found this when I looked up "undifferentiated":

What initiates the undifferentiated gonads to become the testes?​

There is a gene located on the short arm (top half) of the Y chromosome, called "SRY,"which, if present, will cause the undifferentiated gonad to become testes around the sixth week of fetal life. At the same time, shrinkage of what would have been the female reproductive tract occurs. As the testes produce testosterone, the phallus (penis), scrotum and urethra form. Later, during the seventh to eighth month of the pregnancy, the testes will descend into the scrotum.​

If there is no SRY gene, the gonad will usually differentiate into an ovary. Likewise, the female reproductive tract will continue to develop, forming the uterus and fallopian tubes. At the same time, shrinkage of what would have become the male reproductive organs occurs.​


When I viewed the video you submitted at Post 355, there was a statement (starts at approx 50 seconds in) indicating that "roughly one in every two thousand babies are born intersex each year". I googled "how many babies are born each year globally" and the answer is 140 million.

when the video indicated 1 in every 2,000, it seemed (to me) to be a high percentage ...

but in reality, the percentage is very minimal when compared to 140 million ...
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it just occurred in one twin, in the video I posted in post 421 it mentions the Sesquizygotic twins where also Identical twins
reneweddaybyday said:
yes ... I have heard about women who had twin (or more) pregnancy and only one infant survived.

I have also heard of twin pregnancy where one baby was larger and weighed more than its smaller twin. I've heard people say that the larger twin "took away" nourishment from the smaller twin.

I sometimes wonder if it has more to do with gestational age ... if mother releases more than one ova ... and one of the ova is fertilized days or even weeks before the other ova, the first fertilized ova has had more time to develop and mature.

When I had my twins, my pediatrician commented that one of my boys appeared to him to be a week to two weeks younger (gestationally) than his brother (the younger twin's lungs were not fully developed and he was covered with lanugo).

I gave birth to my boys at week 36 (full gestation = 40 weeks).

If my pediatrician was correct, then one was born at 36 weeks ... the other at 34 to 35 weeks ... very interesting ...

Another factor in the difference in size/weight of twins could be the umbilical cord ... if an umbilical cord is twisted or knotted, that could affect the flow between the placenta and the fetus resulting in decreased nourishment and oxygen to the fetus.
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thanks it's just my partner was asking and she wants twins, and is thinking if going IVF and fertility drugs to increase her chances, but I'm skeptical.

With regards to your previous question the Sesquizygotic twins mentioned in the video also said they where identical twins early on,

But I may have got confused there 🤔🙂
 
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Fundaamental said:
I see,,,,

are you associating monstrosity with all gays,

Is a judge going to listen to a person who say I commited rape because I was possessed ?.

So I'll ask you the question without talking about sex.

A gay person who no longer has gay sex or has never commited gay sex is he possessed to because he's still gay ?.

Or would you say if hes saved he would no longer be gay ?
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being gay begins like someone trying heroine for the first time and studies shows after a first time it's guaranteed for a second time About 80% of heroin users will end up relapsing at least once, because they're hooked.

if you have 8 out 10 people who do heroine once guaranteed to do it again, it's very similar to the same sex scene.

makes sense, they're both roughly the same statistically because both represent Sin and have same effects no matter the Sin!

Satan, only needs people to try things once before he has 80% of them hooked on their Sin.
 
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Is that so? tell me then what will you lay on the line for him? do you know that utter reverence of being before his might and kingshi[? That trembling of the body yet you cannot get enough it? Do you refuse to bow down to the wiles of spiritual war and fight for his name? Do you sit there and just be with him listen and actually invite him into your abode? Do you wake up with your first thought being what can we do for your kingdom today?

You are a pitiful liar the spirit speaks to the spirit you are not comprhending that.

Psalms 23 that verse is what is coming and it is going to be something that really shows what David was talking about and it starts with those who will dare to walk into the valley of dry bones and demand they comre to life that his mighty waters would flood the valley bringing forth life and do I need to remind you again what the call is?
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to you who disagrees as you are by all accounts in the right to do so prove me wrong.
 
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being gay begins like someone trying heroine for the first time and studies shows after a first time it's guaranteed for a second time About 80% of heroin users will end up relapsing at least once, because they're hooked.

if you have 8 out 10 people who do heroine once guaranteed to do it again, it's very similar to the same sex scene.

makes sense, they're both roughly the same statistically because both represent Sin and have same effects no matter the Sin!

Satan, only needs people to try things once before he has 80% of them hooked on their Sin.
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studies show or ideas show, your analogy could be right for heroin most definitely.

I guess you have your reasons for what you believe, but I do think being gay can be a desire of there own flesh and no different to those who battle sin.

People always say Adams choice was of his own desire.

I do see what your saying regarding temptation and the war against the seed by others, to pull people away.
I'm not dismissing what your saying,

But temptation isn't necessarily possession but something maybe gays could become confused by or maybe not realise and believe there gay.

Of cause they can say no to carrying anything out.

And maybe the only way for such people who just can't find attraction to the opposite sex for what ever reason Would be best remaining a virgin there whole life.

But I know how difficult that is for everyone and really something that comes with maturity.

There are people who simply can't find attraction to the opposite sex.

I will never truly understand it myself but I'll just leave it there now
And this will be my final thought of this gay stuff.

It is becoming unhealthy for me I need to get theese images out of my head.

But I feel there is some truth to what your saying

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None of this very low percentage of Birth defects makes up the Transgender narrative. Truth matters.

Today there are those who are teaching an ideological ( movement) to make or suggest children who are boys were a mistake AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIRLS AND LITTLE GIRLS WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN BOYS.

None of this xy or xx matter when you are a fully developed boy or girl being told you are in the wrong sex or gender.

Don't be sidetracked by deceptive lies that speak about xx, xy, or what happened in the womb which is irrelevant
when the fetus(which means unborn child in Latin ) is already developed and BORN with the sex and gender fully identifiable.


Those who call themselves Christian want to play the " I know science terminology" YET don't address the 99% of LGBTQ has nothing to do with birth defects and more to do with perversion, sexual abuse of Children, and mental illness. And many parents, teachers, and Politicians are cashing in on that.

These are a man period.

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Those who think it is loving agreeing with this are contributing to the end result which is abusing children and people.


No other sin is a Great witnesses we are in the last days and Those who defend it and will not call sin sin , will answer to the living God. AS His words says. Trangenderism is violent , abuseive, and hateful to the things of God.

Homosexualailty (gay & lesbain) it is no longer about two consenting adults of the same sex in a relationship. This sin bring down nations, cites, and towns.

Sugar coat it all you like. Say it is unloving to tell the truth and call sin sin, go head and point out other sins to justify this sexual sin. Child are being abused. And the church has yet to stand up and speak out in one voice. I have family members who are decieved and living this sinful life and I will not compermise the word of God to make them feel better being decieved and abused and living a lie.

I will not marry them, I will not attend a wedding , I will not in anyway BE named among them as the word of God says. They are open to come to church they can recieve prayer but They will hear what God thinks about it and all sin. And Jesus is the answer.

There are only two genders male and female as God Ordianed them to be. God is not a man that HE should lie. Nor should we stand by and allow man and women to make Him one.
 
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Fundaamental said:
it just occurred in one twin, in the video I posted in post 421 it mentions the Sesquizygotic twins where also Identical twins
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I do not believe sesquizygotic twins are identical.

Identical twin occurs when one sperm fertilizes one egg and the embryo splits into two ... there is one amniotic sac and one placenta. Both share all DNA ... 100% maternal and 100% paternal.

Sesquizygotic twin occurs when two sperm fertilize one egg resulting in two embryos ... there are two amniotic sacs and one placenta.

I believe sesquizygotic twins are considered partially identical because they share 3/4 DNA ... 100% maternal and 50% paternal

With fraternal twins, they are not identical or partially identical ... they are considered siblings. each infant shares 1/2 DNA ... 50% maternal and 50% paternal.




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my partner was asking and she wants twins, and is thinking if going IVF and fertility drugs to increase her chances, but I'm skeptical.
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yeah, I hear you ... I'm with you on the skepticism of IVF and fertility drugs ... I think with IVF they implant more than a couple embryos in the womb. you could end up with twins ... triplets ... quadruplets ... ??? ... best to leave it up to God. He knows what's best.

another thing, I did not realize how hard my twin pregnancy was on my body until after I had my daughter. She was born after I had the twins. The twin pregnancy was my first. I was healthy and I felt fine. In fact, I felt great both pregnancies. However, being my first pregnancy, I just went along with the flow. It wasn't until after the birth of my daughter ... single pregnancy ... that I realized how physically taxing that twin pregnancy was on me.


Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
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None of this xy or xx matter when you are a fully developed boy or girl being told you are in the wrong sex or gender.

Don't be sidetracked by deceptive lies that speak about xx, xy, or what happened in the womb which is irrelevant
when the fetus(which means unborn child in Latin ) is already developed and BORN with the sex and gender fully identifiable.
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I think "this xy or xx" matters to a certain extent because if a person is xy that means he is male and if a person is xx that means she is female.

having surgery to remove fully functioning and healthy body parts does not change xx into xy or xy into xx.

Also, taking strong pharmaceuticals for the rest of a lifetime does not change xx into xy or xy into xx. All hormone therapy does is mask the underlying xx or xy ... treating a symptom, not the cause of gender dysphoria.

the only healing for gender dysphoria ... indeed the only healing for all the maladies of mankind ... is found in the Lord Jesus Christ.

but instead, we've got so-called "professionals" (cough, cough) counseling people who have very serious issues and telling them if they would only lop off healthy body parts and undergo further surgeries to replace healthy body parts with ??? ... then for the rest of his or her life, he or she must take strong hormones or else ... I am in agreement with you that this is nothing but a lie from the pit.

But we've also got these same "professionals" spouting xy is not xy and xx is not xx. While God's Word is the only truth, we can also educate ourselves concerning xy and xx so when those who just take the word of the "professional" that xy is xx and xx is xy, we can at the very least discuss with some basic knowledge of the issue.

if someone with xy chromosomes believes the lie being forced on them by the "professionals", we can at least help them understand that xy at the 23rd pairing means male and xx at the 23rd pairing means female. If they can understand that truth, that might help them turn from the lie of satan and we can get the focus off of that and onto the Lord Jesus Christ ... which is where they will find the true healing, the true remedy for what's ailing them.


It's so sad ... what God's Word tells us:

Psalm 139:

14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!

18 If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee.


How healing would those words be to someone who suffers from gender dysphoria ... someone who is not comfortable in his or her own body which, truth be told, is fearfully and wonderfully made ???
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yes ... I have heard about women who had twin (or more) pregnancy and only one infant survived.

I have also heard of twin pregnancy where one baby was larger and weighed more than its smaller twin. I've heard people say that the larger twin "took away" nourishment from the smaller twin.

I sometimes wonder if it has more to do with gestational age ... if mother releases more than one ova ... and one of the ova is fertilized days or even weeks before the other ova, the first fertilized ova has had more time to develop and mature.

When I had my twins, my pediatrician commented that one of my boys appeared to him to be a week to two weeks younger (gestationally) than his brother (the younger twin's lungs were not fully developed and he was covered with lanugo).

I gave birth to my boys at week 36 (full gestation = 40 weeks).

If my pediatrician was correct, then one was born at 36 weeks ... the other at 34 to 35 weeks ... very interesting ...

Another factor in the difference in size/weight of twins could be the umbilical cord ... if an umbilical cord is twisted or knotted, that could affect the flow between the placenta and the fetus resulting in decreased nourishment and oxygen to the fetus.
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I do not believe sesquizygotic twins are identical.

Identical twin occurs when one sperm fertilizes one egg and the embryo splits into two ... there is one amniotic sac and one placenta. Both share all DNA ... 100% maternal and 100% paternal.

Sesquizygotic twin occurs when two sperm fertilize one egg resulting in two embryos ... there are two amniotic sacs and one placenta.

I believe sesquizygotic twins are considered partially identical because they share 3/4 DNA ... 100% maternal and 50% paternal

With fraternal twins, they are not identical or partially identical ... they are considered siblings. each infant shares 1/2 DNA ... 50% maternal and 50% paternal.





yeah, I hear you ... I'm with you on the skepticism of IVF and fertility drugs ... I think with IVF they implant more than a couple embryos in the womb. you could end up with twins ... triplets ... quadruplets ... ??? ... best to leave it up to God. He knows what's best.

another thing, I did not realize how hard my twin pregnancy was on my body until after I had my daughter. She was born after I had the twins. The twin pregnancy was my first. I was healthy and I felt fine. In fact, I felt great both pregnancies. However, being my first pregnancy, I just went along with the flow. It wasn't until after the birth of my daughter ... single pregnancy ... that I realized how physically taxing that twin pregnancy was on me.


Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
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Yes I can see why your struggling to accept how accurate the documentary is because it shouldn't happen and it defies all other twinning.

How ever the documentary states the sesquizygotic twins in the doc where 89% identical


The same documentary was broadcast on a live TV program not YouTube.
But still I can't say how accurate it was.

In another video there was another documentary as to why growth problems occur and belief of why testosterone could effect part of the brain.


It was to do with how long a fertilised egg can nest on the fallopian tube befor it releases,

The documentary also indicated that there studying whether, there is a part of the brain that doesn't absorb enough male testosterone in the brain at pregnancy,

The part of Brain mentions it's a place where sexual attraction to the opposite sex is stimulated.

Doctors say if this part of the brain doesn't absorb enough mail testosterone at pregnancy it's then possible theese type of men who would have no attraction to the opposite sex when they mature in adulthood.

I would say this is useful information for parent who have a gay young child in teenage years.
But can't understand why.

It is a bit of a question mark as to why young teenagers can be gay for parents

Scientists believe it's to do with a crucial part of developing at puberty stage.

The question by scientists
To advice parents, to explain to there children

Is the brain still developing at this stage, and is it a possibility that part of the brain that stimulates attraction to the opposite sex may not have absorbed enough male testosterone at pregnancy. Resulting in no attraction to the opposite sex at puberty
 
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There is a passage of scripture that says that the sins of the father visited on the children even to the third generation of those who hate God.
And look at us just 3 generations from the drug fueled, sexual hippy movement.
Science is just now catching up to the word of God discovering epigenetic markers that indicate certain tendencies, such as alcoholism, and drug addiction, and sexual immorality.
The cure for these generational sins is repentance turning to the gracious and forgiving and redeeming God.
Science will not cure this problem, trust in science and modernity and human craftiness will amplify the problem, and the death toll will rise.
 
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We as the church must kneel in the churches and pound our chest and cryout, have mercy, oh on us poor wretched sinners.
 
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To Christian Parents of Gay Children

full article https://www.believeoutloud.com/voices/article/to-christian-parents-of-gay-children/

by Susan Cottrel
“You want to shove those words back in and put the lid on. But you can’t. Your child is gay. This goes against everything you’ve been taught. It was not what you had in mind, and you instantly wonder where you went wrong.”​

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When you become a parent, you know to expect the unexpected. But for many Christian parents, nothing can prepare them to hear that their beloved child is gay. This is the child you have cradled, spoon fed mashed bananas, and dreamed a beautiful future for. How could this be? What will the church say? What will your friends say? What does the future hold? You can’t even get your head around this.

If you are a Christian parent, family member or friend to whom your loved one has come out as gay or lesbian, then this is for you.
 
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Fundaamental said:
To Christian Parents of Gay Children

full article https://www.believeoutloud.com/voices/article/to-christian-parents-of-gay-children/

by Susan Cottrel
“You want to shove those words back in and put the lid on. But you can’t. Your child is gay. This goes against everything you’ve been taught. It was not what you had in mind, and you instantly wonder where you went wrong.”​

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When you become a parent, you know to expect the unexpected. But for many Christian parents, nothing can prepare them to hear that their beloved child is gay. This is the child you have cradled, spoon fed mashed bananas, and dreamed a beautiful future for. How could this be? What will the church say? What will your friends say? What does the future hold? You can’t even get your head around this.

If you are a Christian parent, family member or friend to whom your loved one has come out as gay or lesbian, then this is for you.
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my Dad was a Preacher, his oldest son, from a woman who left my dad to turn tricks because the money was good + the judge of the County Seat was her daddy and my brother was forced into a lifestyle very much different and opposite of my own.

the point is, like my dad, and other parents who follow God, Satan's biggest achievement is stealing those from your own home. when you live a real Christian life, you should be busy doing God's Will. you're busy and just assume the home is protected. but, you need to still come back home and keep your home protected by anointing all entry ways and placing Angels and creating the Hedge that God has for you over your own family for protection.

preachers assume their families are in line. same with every day Christians. but we are the ones Satan hates even more. we chose to be his enemy by putting our Faith into Jesus Christ. we need to be covering all ways that evil can creep in.
 
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People claim to believe God but ignore whenever the enemy makes a impact upon someone they're responsible for. DEMONS are REAL! and they want nothing more than to crush your soul by turning your flesh and blood into an ABOMINATION unto God!

these parents were STUPID, my dad was STUPID, and why i only live in a spiritual warfare mind at all times.
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
my Dad was a Preacher, his oldest son, from a woman who left my dad to turn tricks because the money was good + the judge of the County Seat was her daddy and my brother was forced into a lifestyle very much different and opposite of my own.

the point is, like my dad, and other parents who follow God, Satan's biggest achievement is stealing those from your own home. when you live a real Christian life, you should be busy doing God's Will. you're busy and just assume the home is protected. but, you need to still come back home and keep your home protected by anointing all entry ways and placing Angels and creating the Hedge that God has for you over your own family for protection.

preachers assume their families are in line. same with every day Christians. but we are the ones Satan hates even more. we chose to be his enemy by putting our Faith into Jesus Christ. we need to be covering all ways that evil can creep in.
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Theese are valid points, but at the same time should they be a one track pony.

The article from a Christian believes emotional scars can be passed down. From a generation behind the parents.

The parents may not have displayed any of there father or mother or grandfather's scars but the child could,

Either way it's just another valid point,

That also cross examines the article by doctors and adds credibility to doctors who claim a part of the brain may be subject to not inheriting appropriate testosterone at birth.

It also adds credibility to why identical twins can be born where one goes hetero one gay at puberty

You have similar issues because you can't understand your brother or you you choose to understand a spiritual unclean spirit has robbed your brother.

I sympathize for you.

But how many of theese robbed children stop being gay ?
If they where robbed this way I feel the lord should save them
 
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yes ... I have heard about women who had twin (or more) pregnancy and only one infant survived.

I have also heard of twin pregnancy where one baby was larger and weighed more than its smaller twin. I've heard people say that the larger twin "took away" nourishment from the smaller twin.

I sometimes wonder if it has more to do with gestational age ... if mother releases more than one ova ... and one of the ova is fertilized days or even weeks before the other ova, the first fertilized ova has had more time to develop and mature.

When I had my twins, my pediatrician commented that one of my boys appeared to him to be a week to two weeks younger (gestationally) than his brother (the younger twin's lungs were not fully developed and he was covered with lanugo).

I gave birth to my boys at week 36 (full gestation = 40 weeks).

If my pediatrician was correct, then one was born at 36 weeks ... the other at 34 to 35 weeks ... very interesting ...

Another factor in the difference in size/weight of twins could be the umbilical cord ... if an umbilical cord is twisted or knotted, that could affect the flow between the placenta and the fetus resulting in decreased nourishment and oxygen to the fetus.
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I'm just looking into something else at the moment have you heard of it.

The video claims upto 12 percent of pregnancies may well have had a vanishing twin. And also in cluded some speculation of a vanishing identical twins or vanishing sesquizygotic twins at the time when the egg splits.

Could this explain xxy gene and also why people turn out so different in all so many ways


 
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my Dad was a Preacher, his oldest son, from a woman who left my dad to turn tricks because the money was good + the judge of the County Seat was her daddy and my brother was forced into a lifestyle very much different and opposite of my own.

the point is, like my dad, and other parents who follow God, Satan's biggest achievement is stealing those from your own home. when you live a real Christian life, you should be busy doing God's Will. you're busy and just assume the home is protected. but, you need to still come back home and keep your home protected by anointing all entry ways and placing Angels and creating the Hedge that God has for you over your own family for protection.

preachers assume their families are in line. same with every day Christians. but we are the ones Satan hates even more. we chose to be his enemy by putting our Faith into Jesus Christ. we need to be covering all ways that evil can creep in.
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My church practices home blessing. I pray Gods protection over my home and children. Its a must
 
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Fundaamental said:
you need help, I found out last month when a normal couple female and male in love have sex befor marriage, it is called fornication, then I read fornicators can go to hell.

I also read gays can go to hell.

I struggle to understand this.
Why is fornication a sin the same as gay sin.

or why is sex between a man and a women called something that seem disgusting like this word fornicators ?. Where did word come from.

is it Because God hates his marriage been disrespected more than he hates the sin of sexual sin.

because obviously the same sex between man and woman is not frowned on by God when there married,

Have you ever been a fornicator ?

And if you have how can you condemn gays before Christ
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Because ALL sin is condemned.

However, homosexuality is an abomination....there exists a natural reaction to homosexuality. (Revulsion)

God created the natural order. Anything outside of that is perversion as in perverted. Romans 1 and beginning of 2 clearly states why and how. This crap about birth defects is less than a half percent of 1/10,000 of the population.

Meaning not very often whatsoever and is not needing to be broadcast in every school, public platform, and church in order to cause gender dysphoria (mental illness) in children. Because then you are promoting sin.
 
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