In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old

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when you consider it shows us that Jonah is caught in seaweed and actually dies before eaten by the whale.
and we see, Jonah, repenting, before i imagine he drowns.
so, he got a good lesson from God handed to him.
 
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אֲפָפ֤וּנִי מַ֙יִם֙ עַד־נֶ֔פֶשׁ תְּה֖וֹם יְסֹבְבֵ֑נִי ס֖וּף חָב֥וּשׁ לְרֹאשִֽׁי׃
The waters closed in over me,
The deep engulfed me.
Weeds twined around my head.


לְקִצְבֵ֤י הָרִים֙ יָרַ֔דְתִּי הָאָ֛רֶץ בְּרִחֶ֥יהָ בַעֲדִ֖י לְעוֹלָ֑ם וַתַּ֧עַל מִשַּׁ֛חַת חַיַּ֖י יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהָֽי׃
I sank to the base of the mountains;
The bars of the earth closed upon me forever.
Yet You brought my life up from the pit,
My ETERNAL God!

בְּהִתְעַטֵּ֤ף עָלַי֙ נַפְשִׁ֔י אֶת־יְהֹוָ֖ה זָכָ֑רְתִּי וַתָּב֤וֹא אֵלֶ֙יךָ֙ תְּפִלָּתִ֔י אֶל־הֵיכַ֖ל קׇדְשֶֽׁךָ׃
When my life was ebbing away,
I called GOD to mind;
And my prayer came before You,
Into Your holy temple.
 

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Ok, you've won... you've beaten me into submission.

I don't have the time or the inclination to repeat what my hypothesis is ever few pages. Go back and read, if you wonder what verses led me to my postulation.
I am willing to read your hypothesis if you give me a link or post number. Where exactly can I find it?

I don't feel any need to defend to the death my random thoughts and musings.
It's not just "thoughts and musings" when you challenge orthodox biblical doctrines (e.g., Creation's Timeline, Adam's Federal Headship, Original Sin, etc.). If you think your hypothesis is theologically important, then a good defense is in order.


I really don't need to be "converted" by anyone, especially by someone that is likely way less than half my age.
1. That is an immature, prideful heart attitude. The Holy Spirit uses people of all ages to teach His truth (Ps 119:100, 1 Tim 4:12)
2. We should submit ourselves to God's revealed truth and not exceed what is written (2 Cor 10:5, 1 Cor 4:6)
 

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[QUOTE="The_Watchers_2017, post: 5131345, member: 316734
Even Mary was able to ASK GOD a question here.
So, Mary, does not feel pressured at all.
Just really in Wonder and Amazement how She could have not just a child and be a Virgin, but a Child, that is God.

[/QUOTE]

Did she plan on never having sexual activity with Joseph?
 

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when you consider it shows us that Jonah is caught in seaweed and actually dies before eaten by the whale.
and we see, Jonah, repenting, before i imagine he drowns.
so, he got a good lesson from God handed to him.
Jonah was certainly resurrected. And this was the miraculous phenomenon that thunderstruck the Ninevehites. There were probably witnesses who had actually seen the whole thing.
 
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Jonah was certainly resurrected. And this was the miraculous phenomenon that thunderstruck the Ninevehites. There were probably witnesses who had actually seen the whole thing.
Amen!
 

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Adam to Yahshua is 4000 years + 2023 years since, this puts us at 6023 years since the creation of Admah ( Adam) and Hawwah (Eve). Yet how are we not currently in the “Messianic Millennium” of what the 7th day/Sabbath represents? One of 2 possibilities, a “restraining” spoken of in Scripture or 163-166 to 239-240 years missing from the calendar. The “restraining” would be holding the end times back to allow the “fullness of the Gentiles” missing years would not necessarily make that view false but would put us at the years 5,854-5,857 to 5,783-5,784

Genesis 1:1-2, “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth. And the earth came to be (H1961) formless and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim was moving on the face of the waters.”

H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v. 1. to exist., 2. to be or become., 3. to come into being, i.e. to happen, to occur (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary).

[a primitive root] KJV: beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use., Compare: H1933
 

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It’s only 3000 years old.
The Word records of 6,000 years,

From Adam to Abraham:

Adam to Seth 130 years (Genesis 5:3)
Seth to Enos 105 years (Genesis 5:6)
Enos to Cainan 90 years (Genesis 5:9)
Cainan to Mahalaleel 70 years (Genesis 5:12)
Mahalaleel to Jared 65 years (Genesis 5:15)
Jared to Enoch 162 years (Genesis 5:18)
Enoch to Methuselah 65 years (Genesis 5:21)
Methuselah to Lamech 187 years (Genesis 5:25)
Lamech to Noah 182 years (Genesis 5:28-29)
Noah to the Flood 600 years (Genesis 7:6)
Flood to Arphaxad 2 years (Genesis 11:10)
Arphaxad to Salah 35 years (Genesis 11:12)
Salah to Eber 30 years (Genesis 11:14)
Eber to Peleg 34 years (Genesis 11:16)
Peleg to Reu 30 years (Genesis 11:18)
Reu to Serug 32 years (Genesis 11:20)
Serug to Nahor 30 years (Genesis 11:22)
Nahor to Terah 29 years (Genesis 11:24)
Terah to Abraham 70 years (Genesis 11:26)

So Adam to Abraham is 1948 years (This same genealogy is in Luke 3:34-38)

From Abraham to Egypt:

Abraham to Isaac 100 years (Genesis 21:5)
Isaac to Jacob 60 years (Genesis 25:26)
Jacob to Egypt 130 years (Genesis 47:28)

So Abraham to Egypt is 290 years

From Egypt to Exodus:

Jacob and his family went to Egypt
Jacob went to Egypt (Genesis 46:8,11)
Levi went to Egypt (Jacob's son) (Genesis 46:8,11)
Kohath went to Egypt (Levi's son) (Genesis 46:8,11)
Kohath had a son named Amram (Exodus 6:18)
Amram had a son named Moses (Exodus 6:20)
Moses to the Exodus 80 years (Exodus 7:7, Acts 7:21-23, 29-30)
From Egypt to Exodus: X = (Kohath to Amram to Moses + 80)
In Wilderness 40 years (Numbers 32:13,
Wilderness to death Joshua 30 years (Joshua 14:7,10, 24:29)

Exodus to death Joshua is 70 years

The Period of Judges:

Under King Cushanrishathaim 8 years (Judges 3:8)
Under Othniel 40 years (Judges 3:10-11)
Under King Eglon 18 years (Judges 3:14)
Under Ehud 80 years (Judges 3:15,30)
Under King Jabid 20 years (Judges 4:1-3)
Under Deborah 40 years (Judges 4:4, 5:31)
Under Midianites 7 years (Judges 6:1)
Under Gideon 40 years (Judges 6:7, 8:22,28)
Under Abimelech 3 years (Judges 8:32-35, 9:22)
Under Tola 23 years (Judges 10:1-2)
Under Jair 22 years (Judges 10:3)
Under Ammonites 18 years (Judges 10:5-8)
Under Jephthah 6 years (Judges 12:7)
Under Ibzan 7 years (Judges 12:8-9)
Under Elon 10 years (Judges 12:11)
Under Abdon 8 years (Judges 12:13-14)
Under Philistines 40 years (Judges 13:1)
Under Samson 20 years (Judges 13:24, 15:20, 16:30-31)
Under Eli/Samuel 40 years (I Samuel 4:15,18, 7:15, 8:1,4-7,19-22, 9:1-2)

So Judges to Samuel is 450 years (Acts 13:20)

The Period of the kings of Judah:

Under King Saul 40 years (Acts 13:21)
Under King David 40 years (I Chron 29:26-27)
Under King Solomon 40 years (I Kings 11:42-43)
Under King Rehoboam 17 years (I Kings 14:21)
Under King Abijam 3 years (I Kings 14:31,15:1-2)
Under King Asa 41 years (I Kings 15:8-10)
Under King Jehoshaphat 25 years (I Kings 22:41-42,50)
Under King Jehoram 8 years (II Chron 21:5)
Under King Ahaziah 1 yr (II Chron 22:1-2)
Under Queen Athaliah 6 years (II Chron 22:10-12)
Under King Joash 40 years (II Chron 23:13,15, 24:1)
Under King Amaziah 29 years (II Chron 25:1)
Under Uzziah 52 years (II Chron 26:3)
Under Jotham 16 years (II Chron 27:1)
Under Ahaz 16 years (II Chron 28:1)
Under Hezekiah 29 years (II Chron 29:1)
Under Maasseh 55 years (II Chron 33:1)
Under Amon 2 years (II Chron 33:20-21)
Under King Josiah 31 years (II Chron 34:1)
Under King Jehoahaz 3 mon (II Chron 36:1-2)
Under King Jehoiakim 11 years (II Chron 36:3-7)
Under King Jehoiachin 3 mon (II Chron 36:9)
Under King Zedekiah 11 years (II Chron 36:11-21)

So the period of the kings of Judah are 513 years

SUMMARY OF THE TIME FROM ADAM TO YAHSHUA

Adam to Abraham 1948 years
Abraham to Egypt 290 years
From Egypt to Moses: (X=Kohath to Amram to Moses) X = 63 years
Moses to the Exodus 80 years
Exodus to death Joshua 70 years
Judges to Samuel 450 years (Acts 13:20)
Kings of Judah 513 years
Babylonian Captivity 586 BCE
So from Adam to Yahshua is 4000 years
 

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Adam to Yahshua is 4000 years + 2023 years since, this puts us at 6023 years since the creation of Admah ( Adam) and Hawwah (Eve). Yet how are we not currently in the “Messianic Millennium” of what the 7th day/Sabbath represents? One of 2 possibilities, a “restraining” spoken of in Scripture or 163-166 to 239-240 years missing from the calendar. The “restraining” would be holding the end times back to allow the “fullness of the Gentiles” missing years would not necessarily make that view false but would put us at the years 5,854-5,857 to 5,783-5,784

Genesis 1:1-2, “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth. And the earth came to be (H1961) formless and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim was moving on the face of the waters.”

H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v. 1. to exist., 2. to be or become., 3. to come into being, i.e. to happen, to occur (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary).

[a primitive root] KJV: beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use., Compare: H1933
If we consider the original language of Genesis 1:2, the word H1961 הָיָה , And the earth came to be (H1961) formless and empty,

It seems the earth was created some time before Adam and Eve, but the amount of time is not stated.
 
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The Word records of 6,000 years,

From Adam to Abraham:

Adam to Seth 130 years (Genesis 5:3)
Seth to Enos 105 years (Genesis 5:6)
Enos to Cainan 90 years (Genesis 5:9)
Cainan to Mahalaleel 70 years (Genesis 5:12)
Mahalaleel to Jared 65 years (Genesis 5:15)
Jared to Enoch 162 years (Genesis 5:18)
Enoch to Methuselah 65 years (Genesis 5:21)
Methuselah to Lamech 187 years (Genesis 5:25)
Lamech to Noah 182 years (Genesis 5:28-29)
Noah to the Flood 600 years (Genesis 7:6)
Flood to Arphaxad 2 years (Genesis 11:10)
Arphaxad to Salah 35 years (Genesis 11:12)
Salah to Eber 30 years (Genesis 11:14)
Eber to Peleg 34 years (Genesis 11:16)
Peleg to Reu 30 years (Genesis 11:18)
Reu to Serug 32 years (Genesis 11:20)
Serug to Nahor 30 years (Genesis 11:22)
Nahor to Terah 29 years (Genesis 11:24)
Terah to Abraham 70 years (Genesis 11:26)

So Adam to Abraham is 1948 years (This same genealogy is in Luke 3:34-38)

From Abraham to Egypt:

Abraham to Isaac 100 years (Genesis 21:5)
Isaac to Jacob 60 years (Genesis 25:26)
Jacob to Egypt 130 years (Genesis 47:28)

So Abraham to Egypt is 290 years

From Egypt to Exodus:

Jacob and his family went to Egypt
Jacob went to Egypt (Genesis 46:8,11)
Levi went to Egypt (Jacob's son) (Genesis 46:8,11)
Kohath went to Egypt (Levi's son) (Genesis 46:8,11)
Kohath had a son named Amram (Exodus 6:18)
Amram had a son named Moses (Exodus 6:20)
Moses to the Exodus 80 years (Exodus 7:7, Acts 7:21-23, 29-30)
From Egypt to Exodus: X = (Kohath to Amram to Moses + 80)
In Wilderness 40 years (Numbers 32:13,
Wilderness to death Joshua 30 years (Joshua 14:7,10, 24:29)

Exodus to death Joshua is 70 years

The Period of Judges:

Under King Cushanrishathaim 8 years (Judges 3:8)
Under Othniel 40 years (Judges 3:10-11)
Under King Eglon 18 years (Judges 3:14)
Under Ehud 80 years (Judges 3:15,30)
Under King Jabid 20 years (Judges 4:1-3)
Under Deborah 40 years (Judges 4:4, 5:31)
Under Midianites 7 years (Judges 6:1)
Under Gideon 40 years (Judges 6:7, 8:22,28)
Under Abimelech 3 years (Judges 8:32-35, 9:22)
Under Tola 23 years (Judges 10:1-2)
Under Jair 22 years (Judges 10:3)
Under Ammonites 18 years (Judges 10:5-8)
Under Jephthah 6 years (Judges 12:7)
Under Ibzan 7 years (Judges 12:8-9)
Under Elon 10 years (Judges 12:11)
Under Abdon 8 years (Judges 12:13-14)
Under Philistines 40 years (Judges 13:1)
Under Samson 20 years (Judges 13:24, 15:20, 16:30-31)
Under Eli/Samuel 40 years (I Samuel 4:15,18, 7:15, 8:1,4-7,19-22, 9:1-2)

So Judges to Samuel is 450 years (Acts 13:20)

The Period of the kings of Judah:

Under King Saul 40 years (Acts 13:21)
Under King David 40 years (I Chron 29:26-27)
Under King Solomon 40 years (I Kings 11:42-43)
Under King Rehoboam 17 years (I Kings 14:21)
Under King Abijam 3 years (I Kings 14:31,15:1-2)
Under King Asa 41 years (I Kings 15:8-10)
Under King Jehoshaphat 25 years (I Kings 22:41-42,50)
Under King Jehoram 8 years (II Chron 21:5)
Under King Ahaziah 1 yr (II Chron 22:1-2)
Under Queen Athaliah 6 years (II Chron 22:10-12)
Under King Joash 40 years (II Chron 23:13,15, 24:1)
Under King Amaziah 29 years (II Chron 25:1)
Under Uzziah 52 years (II Chron 26:3)
Under Jotham 16 years (II Chron 27:1)
Under Ahaz 16 years (II Chron 28:1)
Under Hezekiah 29 years (II Chron 29:1)
Under Maasseh 55 years (II Chron 33:1)
Under Amon 2 years (II Chron 33:20-21)
Under King Josiah 31 years (II Chron 34:1)
Under King Jehoahaz 3 mon (II Chron 36:1-2)
Under King Jehoiakim 11 years (II Chron 36:3-7)
Under King Jehoiachin 3 mon (II Chron 36:9)
Under King Zedekiah 11 years (II Chron 36:11-21)

So the period of the kings of Judah are 513 years

SUMMARY OF THE TIME FROM ADAM TO YAHSHUA

Adam to Abraham 1948 years
Abraham to Egypt 290 years
From Egypt to Moses: (X=Kohath to Amram to Moses) X = 63 years
Moses to the Exodus 80 years
Exodus to death Joshua 70 years
Judges to Samuel 450 years (Acts 13:20)
Kings of Judah 513 years
Babylonian Captivity 586 BCE
So from Adam to Yahshua is 4000 years
Looks like BIGtimeline propaganda to coverup the real truth about the real young earth. Do your own research, don’t be sheeple. You’ll see we’ve only been here 3000 years.
 

SpeakTruth101

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Looks like BIGtimeline propaganda to coverup the real truth about the real young earth. Do your own research, don’t be sheeple. You’ll see we’ve only been here 3000 years.
Everything the prophets have spoken has come true for thousands of years, I am well learned in many areas, I know carbon dating is very inaccurate and I know history, archaeology and the Word very well. My studies over many years have confirmed my claims.

If you believe the timeline to be incorrect your issue is with the Word not me.
 
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Everything the prophets have spoken has come true for thousands of years, I am well learned in many areas, I know carbon dating is very inaccurate and I know history, archaeology and the Word very well. My studies over many years have confirmed my claims.

If you believe the timeline to be incorrect your issue is with the Word not me.
A correct interpretation of scripture yields an earth that is only 3000 years old. The lies of Satan have tried for years to coverup this truth.
 

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Adam to Yahshua is 4000 years + 2023 years since, this puts us at 6023 years since the creation of Admah ( Adam) and Hawwah (Eve). Yet how are we not currently in the “Messianic Millennium” of what the 7th day/Sabbath represents? One of 2 possibilities, a “restraining” spoken of in Scripture or 163-166 to 239-240 years missing from the calendar. The “restraining” would be holding the end times back to allow the “fullness of the Gentiles” missing years would not necessarily make that view false but would put us at the years 5,854-5,857 to 5,783-5,784

Genesis 1:1-2, “In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and the earth. And the earth came to be (H1961) formless and empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Elohim was moving on the face of the waters.”

H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v. 1. to exist., 2. to be or become., 3. to come into being, i.e. to happen, to occur (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary).

[a primitive root] KJV: beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use., Compare: H1933
My personal study has the year of Jesus's death and Pentecost 32 AD. Just my 2 cents
 

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there is a theory that the dark ages never were so that would erase some time. we maybe in the year 1000 for all we know.