Paul saw the ten commandments as part of the "ministry of death."

Anything not of faith is sin. So if your conscience constrains you, and you still do it, to you it is sin.

So your telling me if someone thinks eating with a fork is a sin, its a sin?

What if another person thinks stealing is not a sin because they are hungry, is it not a sin in your view?

We're talking about matters of conscience. Sin is also the transgression of the law as well as a failure to knowingly do good.

Can you give me a more clear answer, you kind of jusr repeated the same thing? I dont know by your reply if those senarios are sins or not. Are you shy to state your blief? You should not be if you are, the point is for us to discuss Bible doctrine

So your telling me if someone thinks eating with a fork is a sin, its a sin?

What if another person thinks stealing is not a sin because they are hungry, is it not a sin in your view?

See my above answer. It tells what sin is. I've been more than plain with what I believe. I brought up conscience because that is what Paul is dealing with in 1 Corinthians 8.

So no clear answer..

What if another person thinks stealing is not a sin because they are hungry, is it not a sin in your view?


OK well Im confident in my views and can tell you ones own mind does not equate what is a sin or not YHWH's Law does.

1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."

We will not be judged by own own view of what is right or wrong, everyone had different views, sociopaths fel they can do anything...

We will be judged by this: YAHshua's words!

John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

Psalm 119:11, “I have treasured up Your word in my heart, That I might not sin against You.”

Im on the soldi foundation, the chief cornerstone.

Matthew 7:24-27,24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does them, shall be like a wise man who built his house on the rock, 25 and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. 26 “And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not do them, shall be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand, and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat on that house, and it fell, and great was its fall.”

Matthew 21:42,42 יהושע said to them, “Did you never read in the Scriptures, ‘The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief corner-stone. This was from יהוה, and it is marvellous in our eyes’?” (Psa 118:22-23)

If you bothered to read my answer, I actually wrote that sin is the transgression of the law. I perceive you are altogether interested in representing accurately what I say. At any rate, thanks for the discussion.

So your telling me if someone thinks eating with a fork is a sin, its a sin?

I did see that and I was going to say I was impressed but the refusal to answer on your part of the doctrine I disagree with is glaring. I would still ike for you to state you view in a clear manner, I clearly stated that I think sin is not defined by ones mind.

However I do want to say Im sorry for not giving you that credit, in that matter. I was in error there. I should be more even on both sides as no 2 people agree on 100% of anything, so again, for that Im sorry and I apologize honestly.

It depends. They might just be crazy- but if forks are somehow connected to some actual sin... like, maybe they've done something violent with a fork... it's plausible they might have a conviction against forks. That's pretty out there; but it's possible. And in that case: yes, it would be a sin for them.

So eating with a fork is not a sin for anyone no matter what they think....

I'm not offended so no apology is necessary, although I do appreciate you proffering it. I stopped answering when I didn't believe you were hearing what I was saying.
For the record, sin is the transgression of the law...1 John. James extends the definition to include someone knowing to do good but not doing it. Romans says anything not of faith is sin. This is easy enough to understand as Hebrews tells us that without faith it is impossible to please God. That's why James tells us to ask wisdom of God without wavering.
It is possible for one to consider something sin that isn't. In your example, there is no prohibition against eating with a fork. But if someone believes there is, it would be sin for them to do so.
There is a prohibition against stealing. To do so is to transgress the law.

But if someone believes there is, it would be sin for them to do so.

Isomeone knowing to do good but not doing it.

Not true... there's no law written in your heart against forks; perhaps. But you don't know what's on another person's heart.

This works specifically one way; though. There's no permissions to violate clear universal moral standards (adultery, for example). But some people's liberties are abridged for one reason or another.

ones own imaginaltion or views is not the judge...

Cool.

So I mostly agree with that except for 2 or 1 1/2 things.

I disagree here



YHWH divides right from wrong, not a persons own mind.

I disagree here possibly



If "good" is righteousness, what I think Yaaqob (James) means then I agree, but if one views this passage as whatever they think is good then again, I think YHWH decides what is right.

In any case I feel much better for us to clearly speak our views, make for a better discussion or debate that way

Amen it’s about this now but faith just confounds some

“The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of allthat word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judæa, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;

how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:36-44‬ ‭KJV‬‬

But when you go backwards it’s because of the stumbling stone some can’t trust Jesus enough to let the law go what a subversion

Yeah, no kidding. I didn't say imagination. The holy spirit tells you not to do something; therefore, you don't do it. It's not hard to reason that God might ask one thing of me and another from you.

And yes, you hate your brother if you try to tell him he's in danger of hell for sinning because you are lying to him, ironically.