Framework of Understanding: a Brief Summary

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Aaron56

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I did not know where to start this for several reasons: I wanted to make it brief enough so that the gist of the message would not be lost within the paragraphs; But, I wanted to make it comprehensive enough because the saints deserve the very best. I hope what I wrote strikes somewhere in the middle.

In order to abridge the message for consumption, I made a lot of assumptions about the reader’s knowledge and understanding of scripture and did not include the references. I hope, for those of you who know the scriptures, they many come to mind as you read this. This is actually the point on which I want to open.

God gives us the natural to understand the spiritual. Even an unspiritual man may discern the ways of God by examining creation. Where men fall, or where they show their fallen nature, is when they refuse to retain God in their knowledge. The conclusions of such men become errant, or worse: perverse. Nevertheless, truth is always available because it is part of everything made, it’s “baked in” if you will. This is why men are “without excuse” when it comes to their relationship to God. So:

Point 1: The ways of God can be discerned by examining creation.

My next point is that there are only two sons in the earth. There are those who remain the sons of Adam and live according to their fallen nature and evil and there are those who are sons of God who live by faith in Christ.
Now, the objection that stares us in the face is that we know there are more than two people alive. This is easily explained: This understanding of “son” is a corporate understanding: it defines the whole as one. Just as Christ is corporate (the many in One) Adam is also corporate.

Point 2: There are two sons in the earth: Adam and Christ.

The next point is that these two sons are maturing together as the current age advances. The sons of God will mature to righteousness and godliness while the sons of Adam will mature to perversion and evil. As the Age advances the distinction between the two sons (and the people who make up the corporate body of each) will become clearer and clearer. At the culmination of the Age neither son will admire the ways of the other.

Point 3: The corporate evil son and the corporate Christ are both maturing at the same time.

If it is true that we are reaching a point when this Age will end and that certain terrible things must come into the earth before the end comes, do you believe that God will provide those in Christ with the necessary resources with which to live and thrive?

Let me put it another way: when do you begin to teach a child to drive: when they are infants or when they are closer to the legal age to drive?

We should absolutely expect that Our Father, the Living God, will equip the son to endure to the end of the Age.

And…

What He equips us with today will be different than what He equipped the saints with in the past.

THIS IS NOT SAYING THAT WE NEED AMENDMENTS TO THE BIBLE. The canon is closed. What it means is that the Word for us today will be succinct for our daily walk ESPECIALLY as the Age comes to a close.

Point 4: God attends to His Son according to the season He is in and equips Him accordingly.


The above point makes the distinction between the logos word and the rema word.

This is NOT, as some Pentecostals and Charismatics preach, the belief that what is spoken and what is written are of equal relevance. But we must understand the distinction:

Jesus Christ is the Word of God, the Logos. One way to think about it is that He embodies the fullness of who God is and what God is doing.

The Rema (or rhema) is what is spoken or what is relevant to the moment. It is used in this verse:
Ephesians 5:26 “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word…”

This is the appropriate word at the appropriate time: Rema.

One should not use the scriptures like magical incantations: believing that if we find the right string of words we can dispel all the troubles that come our way. Typically, Christians will throw all kinds of scriptures at the “trouble wall” to see what sticks or at least to get a “I feel better” from the one they were trying to help. This is foolish, or at least immature, and it assumes that the string of words, out of context, have some sort of power. Social Media is rife with this kind of stuff.

Instead, like a husband to his wife, or like a father to a son; because these relationships are characterized by closeness and intimacy, the husband and the father should speak the specific word for the specific time (this is often from scripture). This requires 1) a relationship of intimacy and 2) revelation and wisdom for the father and husband. Christ speaks to our spirits in this way, giving us what we need for the moment. This is the standard of “My sheep hear My voice”.

One point I want to emphasize (because Christ emphasized it)…

Any man, and even Satan, may handle the logos word: they can speak what is simply written. But only those who walk in the Spirit can speak the rema word, the word for the moment. The gift of “teaching” has such a standard. If teaching were just about reading the scriptures and telling people what it says there would be no need for a deposit of empowerment, from the Spirit, to teach. The Pharisees were like this: they knew the words but they could not discern Christ as He stood in their midst. We must know the Father and Christ whom He sent. Without this we will not be equipped for the day we are in.

So, do not necessarily be impressed with those who use Greek or Hebrew versions of words found in scripture to prove their point. There is no magic to them. Such knowledge may be useful when studying the scriptures but such knowledge is available to all men, even those who are of Adam.

Point 5: The Rema word is required for the day in which we live. This requires wisdom and revelation which arises out of a relationship (walking with) the Lord.


That's all for now. I intended to get into the subject of "Antichrist" but this has already gone too long. I'll get to it soon enough. Thanks for reading. I hope it was encouraging and insightful.

Grace and Peace,
Aaron56
 

Seeker47

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Thank you for posting. I, too try to avoid basing all my comments on a specific scripture cite.

This reminds me of a A.W. Tozer quote:
"The modern scientist has lost God amid the wonders of His world; we Christians are in real danger of losing God amid the wonders of His Word".
Some may find this a bit controversial but little bitty pieces don't always show the whole picture.

Great post, I look forward to reading more.
 

Nehemiah6

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There are two sons in the earth: Adam and Christ.
You mean two groups of sons. The Bible defines them as the natural man and the spiritual man. As to maturation, perhaps that is the wrong term for those who are spiritually dead and have not been regenerated(the natural man).
 

Aaron56

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You mean two groups of sons. The Bible defines them as the natural man and the spiritual man. As to maturation, perhaps that is the wrong term for those who are spiritually dead and have not been regenerated(the natural man).
I understand your point. And what you say is also correct. However God deals with the two sons corporately, as if they each have one body and, more importantly, are all of a singular mind: one of Adam and one of Christ.

I believe this understanding is important as the age advances toward the finale: that there are two distinct origins of wisdom: from above which is Christ and from below which is Adam. This is an important distinction that helps us understand Antichrist.
 

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I understand your point. And what you say is also correct. However God deals with the two sons corporately, as if they each have one body and, more importantly, are all of a singular mind: one of Adam and one of Christ.

I believe this understanding is important as the age advances toward the finale: that there are two distinct origins of wisdom: from above which is Christ and from below which is Adam. This is an important distinction that helps us understand Antichrist.
what about the sons of the devil ?
 

Aaron56

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what about the sons of the devil ?
From the first post: "..the sons of Adam will mature to perversion and evil."

"In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother."

As the end of the Age approaches there will be no middle ground: the sons of the devil and the sons of God will be distinct. Those who remain in Adam are the sons of the devil.
 

Pilgrimshope

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From the first post: "..the sons of Adam will mature to perversion and evil."

"In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother."

As the end of the Age approaches there will be no middle ground: the sons of the devil and the sons of God will be distinct. Those who remain in Adam are the sons of the devil.
Right so the natural man and the spiritual man . The born again in Christ and those who aren’t ….sons of God and sons of the devil
 

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From the first post: "..the sons of Adam will mature to perversion and evil."

"In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does
not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother."


As the end of the Age approaches there will be no middle ground: the sons of the devil
and the sons of God will be distinct. Those who remain in Adam are the sons of the devil.
Would you agree that in the OT they were also identified as Jacob and Esau? .:unsure:
 

Pilgrimshope

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Yes dear brother I always read and find interesting what you write sometimes I have a question that I know you’ll take the right way and explain further your thoughts it is appreciated always
 

Aaron56

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Would you agree that in the OT they were also identified as Jacob and Esau? .:unsure:
:D

Gurl!

I was about to write about the many dichotomies in the scriptures INCLUDING Jacob and Esau.

Cain and Able, light and darkness, good and evil, wives vs prostitutes, spirit vs flesh, etc. :cool:
 

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:D

Gurl!

I was about to write about the many dichotomies in the scriptures INCLUDING Jacob and Esau.

Cain and Able, light and darkness, good and evil, wives vs prostitutes, spirit vs flesh, etc. :cool:
1st Adam vs 2nd Adam
 

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Point 4: God attends to His Son according to the season He is in and equips Him accordingly.

The above point makes the distinction between the logos word and the rema word.

This is NOT, as some Pentecostals and Charismatics preach, the belief that what is spoken and what is written are of equal relevance.

Amen! Totally agree! The rhema word is claimed by anybody to "certify" their word is godly & nobody should question it.
All we need to see is that their "rhema" word is used constantly above the logos word. In the end they elevate "their" words above God's.


Point 5: The Rema word is required for the day in which we live. This requires wisdom and revelation which arises out of a relationship (walking with) the Lord.
Amen again!
Sadly, though, many preachers aren't speaking a rhema word, they usually parrot popular preachers, making themselves false prophets & teachers by parroting the popular false doctrines of today.
To them it's much easier than praying for a message & not getting an answer because of their unconfessed sin. God rarely anoints a saint running after their own lusts, professionalism, & pride.
That's why many today teach & preach out of somebody else's book. They can't do it God's way anymore.:(
 

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I believe this understanding is important as the age advances toward the finale: that there are two distinct origins of wisdom: from above which is Christ and from below which is Adam. This is an important distinction that helps us understand Antichrist.
James 3:13Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom. 14But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast and be false to the truth. 15This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic. 16For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice.

17But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere. 18And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
 

Aaron56

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The 6th point I want to make before getting to "Antichrist" was actually summarized quite well by @Cameron143 . He wrote:

"There is the gravest of differences between what a man does and what God in His wisdom does through feeble men.
There is a character to truth that is undeniable regardless of its source. That God chooses to use the most unlikely and weakest of sources to reveal Himself more fully is merely in keeping with His practice of showing Himself to be the ultimate source. Thus, it is to God's glory that revelation comes through frail human means."


The scriptures record much about this so I won't exhaust you with references save two.

Paul, writing to the saints in Colossae, wrote the following:

24 I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up in my flesh what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ, for the sake of His body, which is the church, 25 of which I became a minister according to the stewardship from God which was given to me for you, to fulfill the word of God, 26 the mystery which has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now has been revealed to His saints. 27 To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. 28 Him we preach, warning every man and teaching every man in all wisdom, that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.

Paul is fleshing out the answer to the mystery that was first spoken by Jesus toward the end of His life.

This is in John chapter 17:

Jesus is praying. Pay attention to the words glory and glorify.

“Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him."

The definition of eternal life is coming up...

"And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent."

Notice it is not "go to heaven when you die". He expounds on this...

"I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was."


To glorify someone is to present THAT person in our lives. Jesus summarized it this way: "When you've see Me you've seen the Father".

Jesus continues to pray in John 17 and then to verse 20...

I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; (so this is not just a grace given to the Apostles, this is for us too) 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me."

And then, here is the kicker and the "mystery" that Paul revealed to the saints in Colessae:

"And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one..."

God does not share His glory with another. BUT, we are not another... we are actually His flesh and His bones: the His Body.

"The hope of glory" that Paul wrote above did not originate with us. It is not our hope of glory. It originated with Jesus, the Christ. This is Christ's hope of glory.

Now, hope is not a wish. It is not wishing and then wondering if it would be fulfilled. Hope is something that absolutely will be fulfilled but it is not present yet.

The linchpin is this: Jesus prayed that we would all be one in Him. Paul revealed that His hope is the riches of His glory; a glory which Jesus gave to us. This is the glory for the right to present, through our own lives and through the frailty of human flesh, Christ in the earth.

This is the hope (a reality that would come) that Jesus saw afar off. But, this is the reality (His hope made manifest) that Paul preached. And who better to preach than one who was once opposed to God's plan through Christ? Paul absolutely knew he didn't deserve the mercy and grace he was given. Paul was the perfect presentation of the hope of Jesus which is this:

"Christ in you, the hope of glory".

Post Script: With this we can address the 7th point: "Antichrist". When we examine the glory of Christ in us we should see by now that antichrist is more than just an evil man who targets the saints. This is a spirit which has been in the earth since the time of Christ actively opposing "Christ in us, the hope of glory". Certainly its fullest and final manifestation has yet to come. I'll expound on this soon.

Grace and Peace,
Aaron56