Will we see the hand of GOD fighting for Israel in Gaza?

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shittim

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Genuinely become Christian and you will no longer live with closed eyes:)(y)
Your response indicates clearly you lean on your own understanding and are far from where He wants you to be.
Praying for you, you need it to post as did in #20, no way does it line up with Galatians c5-v22&23, yet you are on a Christian forum? :unsure::)
 
shittim

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Moses_Young said:
You sound like you should brush up on your theology. Here, I'll give you a hand! :p

In John, we learn that some of those (including Jews) who claim Abraham as their father are really the devil's children. Jesus's words, not mine. Nothing about replacement there. We also learn that Abraham's children will do the works of Abraham - that is, believe on Jesus. So all those rejecting Jesus are equally damned, whether they think of themselves as Jews or Gentiles.

John 8:39-44
They [the Jews] answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

In Romans (in case we haven't learned it already), we learn that God looks at the heart. Not at which genealogy we claim, or our outward acts of "righteousness".

Romans 2:28-29 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Hopefully you will now understand my position is the same as that of scripture, and we are indeed God's chosen people - all of us who believe on Jesus - whether we believe ourselves to be Jews or Gentiles.
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Your grasp is way off and too far off to be corrected, you have cherry picked from John , a specific message from Jesus to a few people and applied it to yourself?
That would mean God does not keep His promises.
You don't experience G-d, else you would not post error, Holy Spirit nor Scripture teaches what you believe.
 
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shittim said:
Genuinely become Christian and you will no longer live with closed eyes:)(y)
Your response indicates clearly you lean on your own understanding and are far from where He wants you to be.
Praying for you, you need it to post as did in #20, no way does it line up with Galatians c5-v22&23, yet you are on a Christian forum? :unsure::)
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Pray for yourself.

You are a legend in your own deluded mind.

Oh, and you will be officially on "ignore" in a moment.

You have nothing to offer here but your own giant ego.

Farewell.
 
shittim

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Nehemiah6 said:
Also in Romans 11 God says that Christ will deliver Israel and redeem and restore it. This is still in the future.
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That is what we may be seeing here, there are vast territories that Israel will will, and ythis could well be the time of that event.
 
Moses_Young

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Nehemiah6 said:
Also in Romans 11 God says that Christ will deliver Israel and redeem and restore it. This is still in the future.
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That was the remnant, though? A remnant will come to know Christ.
shittim said:
Your grasp is way off and too far off to be corrected, you have cherry picked from John , a specific message from Jesus to a few people and applied it to yourself?
That would mean God does not keep His promises.
You don't experience G-d, else you would not post error, Holy Spirit nor Scripture teaches what you believe.
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The message was to all people, was it not? Believe on the Lord Jesus, and be saved. The simplicity of the gospel.

God certainly keeps his promises. But those who don't believe on Him are not His children. I'm not sure why you think this means God doesn't keep His promises, but if you don't understand these simple truths, I concede you may well be too far off to be corrected. :-|
 
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Thy Kingdom- looks like this Hamas terror war is another way the goats are being separated from His Own even here. Non-Biblical belief is rampant.
 
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shittim said:
That is what we may be seeing here, there are vast territories that Israel will will, and ythis could well be the time of that event.
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Isreal has to go through 7 years before that happens. 3.5 years of peace and 3.5 years of Hell on earth.
 
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Prophecy is best understood in retrospect, it isn't my understanding that this is after all the events of revelation but could well be a part of it.
Everyone I know who is Holy Spirit filled and in relationship is being told this is the Ezekiel 38 war and rapture is very near, He does not wish His Own to be ignorant,
Biblical ignorance at this time seems is for the goats who have chosen it.
best wishes
 
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shittim said:
Prophecy is best understood in retrospect, it isn't my understanding that this is after all the events of revelation but could well be a part of it.
best wishes
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Amen,

Wars and rumors of wars.. It will just keep getting worse. not better
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
There is (present tense) a remnant.

there will be (future) all Israel will be saved
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So I'm not sure what the issue is with saying there will also be a (present) Israel that will be damned. Not all are Jews who claim to be.
 
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Moses_Young said:
So I'm not sure what the issue is with saying there will also be a (present) Israel that will be damned. Not all are Jews who claim to be.
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Paul answers this question,

28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
There is (present tense) a remnant.

there will be (future) all Israel will be saved
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Melissa, whose YT channel is Midnight Hour Oil, posts words of knowledge and other wisdom she receives, she as well points out Israel will be saved and we do not see that yet, perhaps as interceded for them.
I know locally I saw a Jewish Nurse Practitioner recently, Holy Spirit manifested and as He observed the event was amazed and very appreciative and as I ask the Lord if another has been won for His kingdom He ALWAYS responds Spiritually in confirmation.
Outside form people don't experience God, they talk about Him.
bless you friend.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
Paul answers this question,

28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
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That is awesome, thank you for sharing, Holy Spirit once more poured out confirmation as I read your scriptural reference.
 
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shittim said:
Melissa, whose YT channel is Midnight Hour Oil, posts words of knowledge and other wisdom she receives, she as well points out Israel will be saved and we do not see that yet, perhaps as interceded for them.
I know locally I saw a Jewish Nurse Practitioner recently, Holy Spirit manifested and as He observed the event was amazed and very appreciative and as I ask the Lord if another has been won for His kingdom He ALWAYS responds Spiritually in confirmation.
Outside form people don't experience God, they talk about Him.
bless you friend.
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We have boorn again saved lovers of Christ jews in my church

The remnant is out there. I am praying for them.. Some may have families over there now..
 
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A wonderful Christian friend posted this and I wanted to share it with you-

DOES ISRAEL MATTER?

Did you know that the time clock of the return of Jesus Christ isn’t based on America’s timeline? It’s based on what is happening in Israel.

Did you know Jesus wasn’t a “Christian” ? He was a Jew. He celebrated and kept the Jewish holy days and customs, as well as the feasts of the LORD. He didn’t come to eradicate the Torah and writing of the Prophets / Old Testament. He came to fulfill the prophecies that were written in them.

When Jesus returns, He isn’t returning to the United States. The Bible says He is going to plant His foot down on the Mount of Olives and go through the Eastern Gate, which is currently sealed off with 16 feet of concrete. A cemetery was also placed in front of that gate because touching the dead makes a Jew considered unclean and unable to enter the Temple, which is considered Holy. The Word of GOD says He will return there and from there He will rule and reign for 1,000 years.

The final battle isn’t going to be on U.S. soil. It’s going to be in the Valley of Megiddo, in Israel. The Bible says as the nations wage war against Israel Jesus will come and destroy His enemies with the breath of His mouth. 2 Thess 2:8

GOD did not replace the Jews with Christians as some believe. We are actually grafted in with them as you would graft a wild branch into an existing tree.

The Word of GOD says, “When you touch Israel, you touch the Apple of GOD’s eye.” Zechariah 2:8

“He that keeps Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps. The LORD is thy keeper.” Psalm 121:4

“I will bless those that bless you and I will curse those that curse you.” Genesis 12:3

We are also commanded to pray for the peace of Jerusalem in Psalm 122.

ISRAEL matters.


PRAY FOR ISRAEL.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
God is and will protect Israel until he returns..

They may not be restored. but he wil not allow anyone to wipe them off the face of the earth. Many have tried and failed..
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Who said anything about wiping them from the face of the earth. And ok yes God does protect human life from extermination, but He allows war mongers to kill eachother and their young men.
 
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