Israel Declares War

That makes no sense. " Will by no means pass away till all these things take place" is part of that sentence. Normal context would be that the generation he is speaking to will by no means pass away until this happens.

I didnt see any in any of the pictures or videos that i have seen.

when He says "this generation" He is clearly referring to the generation that sees the fig tree put forth tender leaves.

Of course Hamas wouldn't have listened. You're missing the point, and by a lot. The point of Israel warning Palestinians (not Hamas) to "evacuate" was so they could bomb and/or go in and be more discriminate. They knew Hamas wouldn't go... in fact, Hamas told them to stay (those cowards).

You also asked if any other country warns before using offensive weapons, I just gave you an example. The difference is Bush gave Saddam and his sons the warning (along with whatever militants that choose to resist the invasion). This is all irrelevant though. I'm just answering your random questions.

1.) Yes, often times civilians are casualties of war. But we can't pretend "casualties of war" are always indiscriminate either. The attack by Hamas on civilians at the music festival was targeted and indiscriminate. Israel knowing that their bombs are going to kill more Palestinian civilian children than ACTUAL Hamas terrorist is also indiscriminate. Surely you know what "discriminate" and "indiscriminate" is?

"It's called war..." said you and the Hamas terrorist who murdered innocent Israeli civilians. Sorry, war doesn't permit the indiscriminate killing of civilians no matter how badly you want it to.

The people that are seeing this will by no means pass away until they've seen this

I really want to reach some type of middle ground with you. Can we start by you telling me what you believe "discriminate bombing" and "indiscriminate bombing" means/is to you?

Past wars have. What's different now?

A good example of "indiscriminate" would be what Russia is doing now in Ukraine by intentionally targeting civilian locations with no military value.

Wait, you asked the silly hypothetical question. I just answered it. lol

I agree, but that is more an example rather than a definition. Can you try to define them? I'll give you my definition as well and tell me where you object.

Discriminate bombing - Using precision bombing in areas of high military infrastructure and/or militant targets. Consideration for civilian life is given but may still yield some unintended casualties.

Precision bombing - Using bombs which are tailored for isolated areas of destruction as to avoid and limit unintended targets.

Indiscriminate bombing - Using bombs, especially nuclear, which blankets more than the area required for the destruction of military infrastructure and/or militant targets. Civilian life is not a deciding factor and has a higher likelihood to yield civilian casualties than discriminate bombing.

No, this discussion began with Post 1153

If God says murder is a sin, it's not judgment from a person who tells the murderer they are in fact a murderer or even they are guilty of sin.

You need to shake the progressive liberalism ideology off that if you say something is a sin/immoral, you are a bigot or you are judging someone. As Christians, our morals are derived from Heavenly Father and are given to us through the inspired word of God. We can call out sin to a sinner, but that isn't a judgment. God has told us the consequence(s) of sin and we aren't to pretend that sin isn't wrong so we can make the sinner more comfortable.

The question is about referring to people as "murderers". I had already said I would condemn murder and would refer to a person convicted of murder as a murderer.

So your saying "you need to shake the progressive liberalism ideology off that if you say something is sin/immoral, you are a bigot or judging someone". Apart from the inferred grammatical errors it seemed you were saying I needed to refer to a person as a murderer who had not been convicted of murder.

You never defended that assertion. And if that assertion was not made your assertion that I need to "shake the progressive liberalism ideology" was baseless. On the contrary I have responded to your "non rhetorical question" and the conclusion is the same. I am not going to call a person a murderer based on allegations and rumours. I will wait until they have had a fair trial and been convicted of murder.

I am not sure how civilians who volunteer to live on a naval base, and civilians who volunteer to live in a building that houses Hamas military stuff is different. But if you say so

What Israel is About to Do Will Shock the World!


I have listened to this once and will go through it again slowly a second time. This may be the best reference I can find on what the Bible says about what we are seeing and what we are about to see.

Morally speaking, it doesn't.

I don't make that distinction unless they are held there against their will. We are seeing Palestinians protesting their government now, imagine what it will be like when they realize it was Hamas that hit the hospital. They are finally seeing that Hamas is using them as human shields and wants atrocities that they can use for propaganda.

Then likely, neither will the results.

It is a fact

the people WHO SEE (WINTESS) these things.. THAT GENERATION will not pass away

When you (this is the people he is talking to) see these things.. Know that this generation (your generation) who not pass away

No one has seen these things happen up until today..

We aren't talking about an indictment. We are talking about an act which has already been pre-established as murder. I'm trying to show that we do not need to have a trial by jury to know that Truman ordered the nuclear attack. We all know this, but you're objecting to saying he is guilty because he wasn't given a trial? That is insane. lol

Bush warned saddam. Not Iraq.

It would be like israel warning Hamas, not Palestinians.

Sorry But you can;t compair the 2.

Every civilian in Gaza should have known the moment rockets started firing. How long has this been going on now?

I am sorry man, I can not agree with you at all.. don;t compair what Isreal is doing wiht what Hamas did.. Israel is making sure this does not happen again. Civilians will die… Hams will not let them go. Put the blame on where it belongs. Hamas..