Israel Declares War

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Yahshua

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Some feel that the covenant had 0 conditions to it. They could worship Satan and God would fulfill His covenant.
Wow...some really feel that? Just worship of satan with no consequence from Almighty?
 

Moses_Young

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Wow...some really feel that? Just worship of satan with no consequence from Almighty?
Blatant disregard for scripture. God nearly killed Moses for leaving his son uncircumcised. How much more judgement for those claiming to be Jews, but worshiping the devil?
 

Yahshua

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At times they lost use of the land but never the deed. God said He will gather them from where He scattered them and that they would never be uprooted again.
indeed. but not without...

Deuteronomy 30:1-3
1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath driven thee,

2 And shalt return unto the Lord thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;

3 That then the Lord thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath scattered thee.


^This is a condition of their return. Obedience.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I didn't mention your name. Guilty conscience? :)
Not at all, I'm direct, I'd appreciate you'd do the same. I know 100% what I believe. I don't believe God is a liar.


Romans 2:29 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Yes, yes the most misused verse in the entire Bible. That doesn't change Romans 11 and it doesn't make the church take the place of the Jews.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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indeed. but not without...

Deuteronomy 30:1-3
1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath driven thee,

2 And shalt return unto the Lord thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;

3 That then the Lord thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath scattered thee.


^This is a Conditional return

The land promise was unconditional and everlasting.
 

Yahshua

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The land promise was unconditional and everlasting.
The land belongs to the children of Israel. The promise is unconditional. But as long as they are disobedient they will not receive what was promised. As soon as they are obedient they get what was promised to them. The promise doesn't expire.

This has been the case throughout biblical history.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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The land belongs to the children of Israel. The promise is unconditional. But as long as they are disobedient they will not receive what was promised. As soon as they are obedient they get what was promised to them. The promise doesn't expire.

This has been the case throughout biblical history.

Israel are the dry bones coming together. God gave them the land, unconditionally and eternally. I believe we agree, you may point out where we don't.
 

ZNP

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Hi! Forgive my tardy reply. I'm currently battling the flu. Thank you for the warm welcome!
Quercetin, Zinc and Vitamin D. You can get them delivered to your house from Walmart or Vitamin stores or Amazon.com
 

Yahshua

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Quercetin, Zinc and Vitamin D. You can get them delivered to your house from Walmart or Vitamin stores or Amazon.com
TYVM. I do have vitamin D but not the other two. I'll pick them up asap. Thanks again.
 

ZNP

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TYVM. I do have vitamin D but not the other two. I'll pick them up asap. Thanks again.
Quercetin and Zinc are like a gun and bullets which destroy viruses. It is amazing to me how effective it is whenever I feel like I'm coming down with something.

I also use HCQ which can be bought at any camping supply company including Walmart. Just get the pills they put into water to sterilize it. I keep a liter in my refrigerator. Tastes like water but if you feel rotten swig that and by the next morning you are feeling a lot better.
 

Smoke

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The land belongs to the children of Israel. The promise is unconditional. But as long as they are disobedient they will not receive what was promised. As soon as they are obedient they get what was promised to them. The promise doesn't expire.

This has been the case throughout biblical history.
This is 100% true. However, either people don't believe this or they are being disingenuous by trying to frame it as if "God is a liar" if you think there are conditions that need to be met first.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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TYVM. I do have vitamin D but not the other two. I'll pick them up asap. Thanks again.

The same here. We had a three day vacation booked and couldn't get the money back so I went. Ugh, bad move. Have a terrible dry cough that I can't control. Wore out with it. Love the fall, hate the flu. Hope you feel better soon! Blessings.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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This is 100% true. However, either people don't believe this or they are being disingenuous by trying to frame it as if "God is a liar" if you think there are conditions that need to be met first.

I'm not trying to frame anything and I don't appreciate you acting as if I am trying to deceive.
 

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ThereRoseaLamb

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Everlasting-Grace

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I didn't mention your name. Guilty conscience? :)

Romans 2:29 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
why did you skip romans 11.

According to salvation. there is no jew or Gentile

romans 11 is not about salvation..
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Blatant disregard for scripture. God nearly killed Moses for leaving his son uncircumcised. How much more judgement for those claiming to be Jews, but worshiping the devil?
Lev 26, Have you ever read it..

What did God say he would do if they sinned?

what did he say he would do if they repent?
 

Everlasting-Grace

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The land belongs to the children of Israel. The promise is unconditional. But as long as they are disobedient they will not receive what was promised. As soon as they are obedient they get what was promised to them. The promise doesn't expire.

This has been the case throughout biblical history.
We also have prophecy. God said their will be a temple. in which Israel is back in her land. and have not yet repented (proven by the fact they are doing sacrifice and offering) That temple will be abominated by the man of sin. in which the great tribulation will begin.

AFTER that Time, Israel will repent.. and be restored.

Israel is not restored today. they are at war. and will be until Christ returns.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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This is a very apropos headline, given how many question just 2 weeks out the severity and barbarity of the Islamic attack.

Israel releases unedited video of Oct 7 Hamas attack to counter 'Holocaust denial-like phenomenon'

Israel releases unedited video of Oct 7 Hamas attack to counter ‘Holocaust denial-like phenomenon’ | Fox News
There is no one who takes seriously any denial of the brutality perpetrated by Hamas. if no one else gives any credence to such nonsense why would Israel give any credence to them by issuing a response?
Producing a video nowadays amounts to nothing. Especially this far into the situation. Deniers will say Holly weird can produce a video that shows monsters eating people in a matter of months; in a matter of weeks you can produce a video that shows humans doing horrific things. This is merely fuel for the fire. As sad as that is.
I think the real question concerning this war is was bombing North Gaza to Rubble destroying the lives and homes of people that had nothing to do with it the appropriate response?