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No, you provided nothing of the sort. Jesus is not a rock with a crack or flaw. Jesus was a Rock in the OT, but the one that gave water to Israel.
Those are the scriptures.The firmament in Genesis 1 divides the waters below, from the waters above.The firmament itself is called heaven.

Scriptures also talk about peoples as waters,and the firmament does the same thing that the word of God did in Genesis.That's what I'm trying to tell you.

This firmament is the cleft in the rock.The Spirit.The firmament in our head is doing exactly what Jesus said.Come out from them,and be separate.
Be separate from those of the world.Those born of water.The natural birth, and be born again of the Spirit.Which you need the blood of his cross in order to receive the Spirit.

If your mind is set on the word of God.Then it's like two stone tablets in your head.
if your mind is set on the word of God.Then you have the fathers name written in your forehead.
His name is Jesus.The water and the blood in written in your head.The Spirit in the cleft testifies of it.
He goes by many names for a reason.
The name he's written on your forehead.His name is the Word of God.
The Word of God is written on your mind!
 
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No, you provided nothing of the sort. Jesus is not a rock with a crack or flaw. Jesus was a Rock in the OT, but the one that gave water to Israel.
Do you understand what I mean by saying the word of God is written in your forehead?
 

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Do you understand what I mean by saying the word of God is written in your forehead?

I understand the words you used but most of it is utter nonsense and hyper symbolized. There's no truth in any of it.
 
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I understand the words you used but most of it is utter nonsense and hyper symbolized. There's no truth in any of it.
Oh,ok.Sorry for repeating myself.Wasn't sure if you knew what I was getting at.

The Bible symbolize,spiritual truth,things because it's liken to a parable.

Matthew 13:10-11
And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

To know the mysteries of the Kingdom of heaven.Not just the parables Jesus spoke,but the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven.
The kingdom of Heaven is the Word of God and the Spirit will testify of all things.
What has happen before in scripture is a physical thing.That is below the firmament.There can be something else there taking place
above the firmament at that particular time or it can be a foreshadowing of something to come.

An example would be the genesis 1 waters being separated by a firmament physically in the heavens.To spiritually the firmament in our heads separating us from the waters below.

John 3:7-9
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

Everyone has a calling.This is my calling.The mysteries of the water,and the blood was placed in my heart long ago.Someone might see,and hear the things I''ve talked about, and from their calling,have a revelation.Something that they might have missed that was right in front of them.A simple thing.Yet only God could have revealed it.
The Spirit does reveal all things to his people.Together we are one.
 
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Here's a on earth as it is in heaven moment.A shepherd kills a uncircumcised Philistine with a stone.

1 Samuel 17:49
And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it,and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth.

Some of the things said in that scripture.

1Samuel 17:28-29
And Eliab his eldest brother heard when he spake unto the men; and Eliab's anger was kindled against David, and he said, Why camest thou down hither? and with whom hast thou left those few sheep in the wilderness? I know thy pride, and the naughtiness of thine heart; for thou art come down that thou mightest see the battle.
And David said, What have I now done? Is there not a cause?

1 Samuel 17:45-46
Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied.

This day will the Lord deliver thee into mine hand; and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel.
 
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Another one that relates to the Kingdom of heaven.This I've had a understanding of a good while back,and shared it here once before.I'll post it later tonight hopefully.
It's about the donkey that Jesus rode into New Jerusalem on, but with new revelations.
 
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Oh,ok.Sorry for repeating myself.Wasn't sure if you knew what I was getting at.

The Bible symbolize,spiritual truth,things because it's liken to a parable.

Matthew 13:10-11
And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

To know the mysteries of the Kingdom of heaven.Not just the parables Jesus spoke,but the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven.
The kingdom of Heaven is the Word of God and the Spirit will testify of all things.
What has happen before in scripture is a physical thing.That is below the firmament.There can be something else there taking place
above the firmament at that particular time or it can be a foreshadowing of something to come.

An example would be the genesis 1 waters being separated by a firmament physically in the heavens.To spiritually the firmament in our heads separating us from the waters below.

John 3:7-9
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

Everyone has a calling.This is my calling.The mysteries of the water,and the blood was placed in my heart long ago.Someone might see,and hear the things I''ve talked about, and from their calling,have a revelation.Something that they might have missed that was right in front of them.A simple thing.Yet only God could have revealed it.
The Spirit does reveal all things to his people.Together we are one.
This John 3:7-9 verse reveals that the oxygen you breathe in,is the breath of the Lord.His Spirit.Without it you will die.
That holds true to those below the firmament and those above the firmament.On earth as it is in heaven.
His breath that enters our lungs is a gift,for his glory.Our lungs are the storehouses of the Lord.

Matthew 12:36-37
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
 
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You are on the right track @Lifted_by_the_word by comparing Scripture to the Kingdom of God Within (i.e., Human Physiology).

I have done similar research myself but came to a slightly different conclusion.

Mountains in the Bible are definitely representative of a body part; however, we must interpret said Mountains through the lens of *Salvation*.

Ask yourself...

Is it really the Pineal Gland that offers Salvation? Or does Salvation come from the Seed of Abraham?

Galatians 3:16
"Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ."


Another question...

What body part did the Seed of Abraham spring forth from? What body part does any Male Seed come from?

Genesis 38:9 (KJV)
"And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother."


Another translation...

Genesis 38:9 (New International Version)
"But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his
semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother."


Now solve the Mystery...

Revelation 14:1
"And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads."

If the Lamb represents the 'seed' or semen that is at the 'head' of Mount Zion, what body part do you suppose Mount Zion then represents?

What did Moses climb to retrieve the Seed of God?

Luke 8:11
"Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God."


Why does the Bible teach that Mount Sinai is somehow making babies with Hagar?

Galatians 4:24 (New International Version)
"These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar."


Could it be that Mount Sinai represents the body part where Abraham's Seed went into Hagar?

Could it also be that Mount Zion represents the body part where Abraham's Seed goes into Sarah?

What does Mount Zion (where the Seed of Abraham flows from) procreate with?

Abraham 'consummates the marriage' to Sarah when she descends on Abraham's 'Mountain'...

Revelation 21:2
"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."


Is it not interesting that the Tree of Life inside of the 'Mother of us all' (Sarah) gives 'Fruit' on a Monthly Period?

Revelation 22:2
"In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."


Those 'Fruit' are being fertilized by the 'Water of Life' proceeding from the Seed of Abraham (Lamb)...

Revelation 22:1
"And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb."


Do you see it?

The Meat of the Word is euphemism. It describes Salvation from an adult perspective.
 
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Why is Jesus a 'Rock'?

Isaiah 51:1
"Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged."


How are we 'hewn from a Rock'? What is the symbolic meaning here?

Isaiah 51:2
"Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him."


Now you see it. The 'Rock' is euphemism for Abraham's Seed.

What about a Stone?

Deuteronomy 23:1
"He that is wounded in the Stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD."


What does 'wounded in the stones' mean?

Deuteronomy 23:1 (English Standard Version)
"No one whose
testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the LORD."


Now you know what Rocks and Stones mean.

What were the Two Tables made from?

Exodus 24:12
"And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them."


The 'Stones' are where the Word of God is written. The Seed is the Word. The 'Seed' proceeded from the 'head' of the 'Mountain'.

Jesus is the 'Stone' with Seven Eyes...

Zechariah 3:9
"For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day."


Jesus is the Seed of Abraham in the Throne Room...

Revelation 5:6
"And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."


The LORD'S House (New Jerusalem/Sarah) descends on Mount Zion so that the Seed of Abraham can 'flow' into it...

Isaiah 2:2
"And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it."


Euphemism!
 

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Why is Jesus a 'Rock'?

Isaiah 51:1
"Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged."


How are we 'hewn from a Rock'? What is the symbolic meaning here?

Isaiah 51:2
"Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him."


Now you see it. The 'Rock' is euphemism for Abraham's Seed.

What about a Stone?

Deuteronomy 23:1
"He that is wounded in the Stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD."


What does 'wounded in the stones' mean?

Deuteronomy 23:1 (English Standard Version)
"No one whose
testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the LORD."


Now you know what Rocks and Stones mean.

What were the Two Tables made from?

Exodus 24:12
"And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them."


The 'Stones' are where the Word of God is written. The Seed is the Word. The 'Seed' proceeded from the 'head' of the 'Mountain'.

Jesus is the 'Stone' with Seven Eyes...

Zechariah 3:9
"For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day."


Jesus is the Seed of Abraham in the Throne Room...

Revelation 5:6
"And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."


The LORD'S House (New Jerusalem/Sarah) descends on Mount Zion so that the Seed of Abraham can 'flow' into it...

Isaiah 2:2
"And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it."


Euphemism!
Interesting stuff - I would be grateful for a couple of clarification;


- Jesus was born to a virgin - how can he then be the seed of Abraham as the 'seed' comes from the man.
- Ruth (David & Jesus lineage) was also a handmaid / slave - why is the lineage accepted when Hagar is not accepted
 
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You are on the right track @Lifted_by_the_word by comparing Scripture to the Kingdom of God Within (i.e., Human Physiology).

I have done similar research myself but came to a slightly different conclusion.

Mountains in the Bible are definitely representative of a body part; however, we must interpret said Mountains through the lens of *Salvation*.

Ask yourself...

Is it really the Pineal Gland that offers Salvation? Or does Salvation come from the Seed of Abraham?

Galatians 3:16
"Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ."


Another question...

What body part did the Seed of Abraham spring forth from? What body part does any Male Seed come from?

Genesis 38:9 (KJV)
"And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother."


Another translation...

Genesis 38:9 (New International Version)
"But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his
semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother."


Now solve the Mystery...

Revelation 14:1
"And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads."

If the Lamb represents the 'seed' or semen that is at the 'head' of Mount Zion, what body part do you suppose Mount Zion then represents?

What did Moses climb to retrieve the Seed of God?

Luke 8:11
"Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God."


Why does the Bible teach that Mount Sinai is somehow making babies with Hagar?

Galatians 4:24 (New International Version)
"These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar."


Could it be that Mount Sinai represents the body part where Abraham's Seed went into Hagar?

Could it also be that Mount Zion represents the body part where Abraham's Seed goes into Sarah?

What does Mount Zion (where the Seed of Abraham flows from) procreate with?

Abraham 'consummates the marriage' to Sarah when she descends on Abraham's 'Mountain'...

Revelation 21:2
"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."


Is it not interesting that the Tree of Life inside of the 'Mother of us all' (Sarah) gives 'Fruit' on a Monthly Period?

Revelation 22:2
"In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."


Those 'Fruit' are being fertilized by the 'Water of Life' proceeding from the Seed of Abraham (Lamb)...

Revelation 22:1
"And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb."


Do you see it?

The Meat of the Word is euphemism. It describes Salvation from an adult perspective.
When repenting it's like Moses coming down Mount Sinai with the Stone tablets.When we are receiving the Holy Spirit it is like Jesus
coming down Mount Zion in the Flesh and dwelling with men.
And the same thing is that we're in the cleft,on the mercy seat as a living sacrifice while the Holy Spirit dwells in us
In all 3 instances it is Jesus himself.His Spirit.
When we are of the water we are in the image of Mount Sinai and when we are of the Blood it is Mount Zion.

I'm not really following what you mean by seed of Abraham.God made man in the image of the water, and women in the image of the blood.Even though a woman gives physical birth,she still needs a man just like how we need the water and the blood for our Spiritual birth.
Our whole body is mount Zion,the same when it was Mount Sinai, when we were of the water.When Moses comes down to the foot of the Mountain with the Laws, and we are washed with the water all the way down to the feet.

Thanks for the Hagar verses.This is something to think on.All I know that it will have to do with repentance.Those who receive the word, or not.Hagar,a gentile was first to bare a child with Abraham before Sarah.The first shall be last,and the last first.

The Pineal Glands function also has something do with a women's monthly menstrual cycle.
 
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Psalm 24:7-10
Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.
Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle.
Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.
Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.


Psalm 27:5
For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.


Psalm 30:6-7
And in my prosperity I said, I shall never be moved.
Lord, by thy favour thou hast made my mountain to stand strong: thou didst hide thy face, and I was troubled.
 
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Our tongue keeps way to the tree of Life like the sword east of the garden in Genesis.Our skull is the Temple.And our lower jaw is like the Temple courtyard.

Revelation 11:2-3
But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Malachi 4:2
But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
 
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We are the donkey jaw bone.The donkey that fed king Nebuchadnezzar every morning,grass with morning dew, before he looked up into the heavens and repented.
The donkey that carries Jesus into the Holy city.The Apostles placed their garments upon the donkey which Jesus rode on.
Can you see it?You are carrying him into the Holy city.
 

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We are the donkey jaw bone.The donkey that fed king Nebuchadnezzar every morning,grass with morning dew, before he looked up into the heavens and repented.
The donkey that carries Jesus into the Holy city.The Apostles placed their garments upon the donkey which Jesus rode on.
Can you see it?You are carrying him into the Holy city.

The jaw bone of the donkey didn't do any carrying.
 

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Interesting stuff - I would be grateful for a couple of clarification;


- Jesus was born to a virgin - how can he then be the seed of Abraham as the 'seed' comes from the man.
- Ruth (David & Jesus lineage) was also a handmaid / slave - why is the lineage accepted when Hagar is not accepted
If I may...

1. This is why the "Seed" cannot be tied to the flesh and is also how those not of Abraham's fleshly DNA lineage can be included in the promises: the Covenant was made between God the Father and God the Son. Abraham only needed to show up. The guarantee of the outcome hinged upon God's inability to lie or to do something incompletely... this is an anchor to our soul.

It's like when a husband and wife agree to build a home of good order and peace, the baby, a third party beneficiary, obtains the benefits of the marriage covenant without any input.

2. Ruth married Boaz. Hagar was not Abraham's wife.