Israel Declares War

You are obviously very young and do not understand the necessity of drafting able-bodied men (and women) to help in the defense of their country during times of war.

Or, just give it all up, and say "can't we all just get along?" hope you can speak Mandarin or Russian... or both.

It's called slavery, and it's a crime. Forcing someone to perform any kind of service against his will is slavery, and is a crime against humanity. Sexual slavery is popularly denounced these days, but military slavery is also quite popular, 'though just as wicked. So if the military is legitimate - and I'm assuming that it is, as it is being described as a military - then the soldiers have consented. If it is a slave army (and I agree there are legitimate reasons for claiming this) - or perhaps a military with embedded slave soldiers - slightly different rules would apply. But for the sake of simplifying the discussion, it's probably easier to discount the slave army component. If we want to talk slave army, that's another crime against humanity for the Israeli government.

They do consent to the service; they haven't consented to the conditions that cause it to be necessary.

So to answer your moral question, they've consented to the risks. A child or civilian does not consent, which is why it's considered more evil to kill these. Sort of like how rape is considered more evil than prostitution.

Countries that conscript

So to answer your moral question, they've consented to the risks. A child or civilian does not consent, which
is why it's considered more evil to kill these. Sort of like how rape is considered more evil than prostitution.

I could come up with a bigger list of countries that rape. Or any manner of atrocity. Just because something is popular don't make it right.

You are obviously falling for the devil's lie that the ends justifies the means. At least you are consistent with your defense of the war crimes being committed in the name of defeating a handful of criminals.

If a country is worth saving, it's womenfolk will willingly bear its children, and its menfolk will willingly fight to defend it. If a government needs to rape its womenfolk to force them to give birth, and enslave the menfolk to force them to defend it, the country (perhaps the government?) is not worth saving. Let it fall.

I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. Raping and enslaving simply to save my own sorry skin (or worse, the sorry skins of those in government) is not a depth which I intend to plumb.

If a government needs to rape its womenfolk to force them to give birth, and enslave the menfolk to force them to defend it, the country (perhaps the government?) is not worth saving. Let it fall.

War crimes are being committed at the same level (or worse) than those committed by the Nazis,

I wonder what would happen if a conscripting country was in a war, and those
libertarians who are against conscription were not defended against enemy attack.
Would they cry foul, desiring the benefits of being a citizen without carrying any of the burden?

What in the sam hill are you talking about? I was talking about the US and the selective service.... men being drafted for the military, which you said was "slavery"..... now you're out where the buses don't run, talking about raping women and enslaving men?
What is wrong with your mind?

I wonder what would happen if a conscripting country was in a war, and those
libertarians who are against conscription were not defended against enemy attack.
Would they cry foul, desiring the benefits of being a citizen without carrying any of the burden?

There is a financial "burden" since everyone pays taxes. So someone who is against conscription is still paying into the armed services. If they were against conscription AND they didn't pay taxes, then I would agree with your point that it would be hypocritical to expect that person to be defended.

Women may not be required by law to sign up for the draft, but they still carry a financial burden. Thus, they should be protected as well.

On a side note, the topic of conscription exposes modern day feminism. It's not about equality. If it was, they would be fighting for women being required to sign up for the draft. Feminism doesn't do that. It only fights for the advantages of one side, not equality for all.

Why are you asking me this when I have asked you numerous time if the West Bank and East Jerusalem are being occupied by Israel?

I ask again and you're pretending I said "Palestine" as if it was a modern day country (never even used the term country) and ignored my direct naming of the occupied territories of the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Why can't you just answer the question instead of playing games?

The state of Israel is a popular country with many, due to the religious beliefs of these people. But just because something is popular doesn't make it right.
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War crimes are being committed at the same level (or worse) than those committed by the Nazis, and people are still supporting the Israeli government.

Just as history makes the supporters of the Nazis look stupid and evil, those Christians who are supporting today's Nazis (the Israeli government) .

Plus protection is extended to all citizens regardless of tax-paying ability. The "scenario" was only meant to question the viability of libertarian claims, such as those who might normally be conscripted but object on some grounds such as saying it is enforced slavery, for instance. I am on my phone... ugh!