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Magenta

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#61
I spilled my ice tea recently at supper... proving I'm not perfect in the literal sense... that does not mean I willingly or knowingly do sinful things.

BIG difference between the two.

1 John 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not


1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


1 John 1:6
if we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:


1 John 2:1
I write these things unto you, that ye sin not


We should not be willingly or knowingly doing sinful things... it should be a very rare occasion for a Christian to sin and IF they did it would NOT be a situation where it's something they knew it was sinful and they decided to do it anyway.

Too many people are doing sinful things and calling them mistakes, which is just an excuse to continue in sin which makes them to no longer be in right standing with the Lord according to Gal 6:7,8 among others..

James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.


One cannot be gay and go to Heaven... if you need scripture references for that, let me know.
Lotta words to avoid answering a simple yes or no...

Besides pointing out the obvious: spilling tea is not a sin.
 

Cameron143

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Lotta words to avoid answering a simple yes or no...

Besides pointing out the obvious: spilling tea is not a sin.
It is at my house. Actually, most any spill will involve some level of guilt.
 

Cameron143

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#63
The OSAS peoples are deceived.... it's the normal people that need to be told the OSAS peoples are teaching doctrines of demons and should be ignored.

Yes of course... those that don't embrace the false doctrines of the OSAS peoples are called "trolls" by the OSAS camp!
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Don't be silly. There are plenty more topics to label you a troll than just OSAS.
 

Cameron143

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#65
He just needs love. If you'll take Mondays, I'll take Tuesday. I'm sure we can find 5 more willing to take a day. Before long, jimmyTheBulgingEyes will be good as new.
 

Evmur

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#69
I'm speaking of the doctrine of Christ from God's Word.... those that aren't being led in to ALL the Truth (whole counsel of God) wouldn't understand since satan blinds the minds of those that don't believe... along with those that suffer from acure Cherry Picker's Syndrome (CPS) and believe only a few happy verses are true and throw the rest of what the Lord says about salvation in the trash.





Accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior... and receiving His Holy Spirit to empower me to be obedient... are good works that all men are called to... it's called being obedient.

Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me.


Those that continue in their sin and teach others that it matters not if we sin (like your boy Gnarly Charlie Stanley) are children of disobedience

Colossians 3:5
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:


Romans 8:13,14
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.


2 Thessalonians 1:8
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:


1 Corinthians 6:19, 20
Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have of God, and you are not your own....for you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.


1 Peter 1:13-16
Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ… As obedient children, not fashioning (agreeing with) yourself according to the former lusts in your ignorance… But as He which has called you is holy, so be yourself holy in all manner of lifestyle… Because it is written, Be holy; for I am holy.


satan has tricked and deceived many in to believing being obedient to the gospel, being obedient to God's calling upon mankind is "works salvation"... and the joke is on them because they did not study God's Word for themselves and got blinded by satan!

We are called to good works... and doing evil works causes people to not inherit God's kingdom.

And yet many will argue in favor of being able to do evil works and strill be saved as they continue in their deception!

Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Galatians 6:9-10
And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.


Hebrews 13:16
But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

Luke 6:35
But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Matthew 7:18-20
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


Romans 2:5-11
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.


1 Timothy 6:17-19
Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;
Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.


Psalm 34:14
Depart from evil and do good; Seek peace and pursue it.

2 Timothy 2:20,21
But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.


James 2:14-20
What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?


James 3:13
Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

1 Peter 3:10-12
For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.


2 Corinthians 9:8
And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

Colossians 1:9,10
For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;


2 Timothy 3:16,17
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
So you fulfil all these scriptures you have posted ... here's how I know that you don't.

In order to be one who fulfils those scriptures you have to be CERTAIN of your position with God. You have to be certain that having stepped out on your walk of faith He is not going to cut and run out on you if you mess up.

You have to be firmly planted in the Father's garden, your roots shooting down deep into the rich fertile soil of God's love. Not being pulled up and replanted once or twice a week.

You can't serve God with a double mind. Saved today but tomorrow who knows? You can't be always looking over your shoulder when fighting the devil, half afraid he might yet get you back in his clutches.

You are not perfect my friend, if you are saved you are perfect in God's eyes. Your doctrine is error.
 

Evmur

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#70
I spilled my ice tea recently at supper... proving I'm not perfect in the literal sense... that does not mean I willingly or knowingly do sinful things.

BIG difference between the two.

1 John 3:6
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not


1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.


1 John 1:6
if we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:


1 John 2:1
I write these things unto you, that ye sin not


We should not be willingly or knowingly doing sinful things... it should be a very rare occasion for a Christian to sin and IF they did it would NOT be a situation where it's something they knew it was sinful and they decided to do it anyway.

Too many people are doing sinful things and calling them mistakes, which is just an excuse to continue in sin which makes them to no longer be in right standing with the Lord according to Gal 6:7,8 among others..

James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.


One cannot be gay and go to Heaven... if you need scripture references for that, let me know.
All sin is wilful, you know you are doing it. stop kidding yourself.
 

posthuman

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#71
Jesus says: 'Do your first Works!' Rev 2:5
Today they say: 'It's not of Works'

Jesus says: 'Produce deeds Worthy of Repentance', Matthew 3:8
Today they say: 'Admit your a sinner and confess'
wherever the true gospel is preached, believers are falsely accused of excusing sin.
 

posthuman

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#72
Jesus says thru John: 'He who Does what is Right is Righteous', 1 John 3:7
Today they say: 'No one is Righteous'
it is the same Jesus Who also said no one is righteous but God alone.

Jesus says: 'Judge Righteous Judgment', John 7:24
Today they say: 'Judge not'
it is the same Jesus Who said judge not, lest you be likewise judged.

Jesus says thru James: 'Cleanse Self of all Filthiness and Wickedness', James 1:21
Today they say: 'All our acts are filthy rags'
it is the same Spirit Who also said through Isaiah, all our righteousnes deeds are as filthy rags.
 

posthuman

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#73
Jesus says thru Paul: 'Depart from iniquity, go and sin no more', 2 Tim 2:19
Today they say: 'If I could stop sinning I wouldn't need Jesus
it is the same Jesus Who said He did not come to save the righteous, but sinners.
 

posthuman

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As long as there is no crying over spilt milk...
i remember trying very hard to keep from laughing my head off when my 2yr old son literally bawled his eyes out over spilled milk

:ROFL:
 

Evmur

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#76
Even though he teaches one can be gay and still be saved... which is in direct opposition to what the Lord says in His Word? Really???
Why do you think homosexuality is a worse sin than adultery?

Why do you differentiate between committing the act of adultery and looking at a woman to desire her? why do you make a difference between murdering somebody and being angry with them?
 

Cameron143

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i remember trying very hard to keep from laughing my head off when my 2yr old son literally bawled his eyes out over spilled milk

:ROFL:
I hope he was in sackcloth and ashes until he repented.
 

Cameron143

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#80
Aldi / Lidl usually has decent prices on dairy.
I have 8 kids and currently have relatives over until their home is finished. Anything short of a milk cow is going to be expensive.