Israel Declares War

How about Israel's being set on ethnic cleansing and committing genocide does that have any negative impact?

Again, it is not about blame, it is about understanding the legitimate grievances of the the refugees and the inhabitants of the land who wanted a two state solution, with the right of self-determination, but was shut down each time by Netnahooo

They have been written by God and they have been fulfilled, but I reserve the right to look them up because I have not done that yet.

If I ever find the time I may actually wrote a post showing the fulfillment, but then I tell my self why should I embark on a fool's errand.

I think even the most versed person in non-futurist doctrine would never convince you, and there are many.

For good analysis search for a post by @Angela53510 on the rapture, I think she deals with the rapture issue well.

I have already explained what should be done.

Some people deny or are unaware of what happened in 1948. The crazy thing is that there are people (Jewish and Palestinian) alive today that will tell you this happened... Unfortunately, even my home boy Ben Shapiro refuses to believe it. I sort of get why he would want to deny/refuse to believe it obviously.

It's because I have studied history that I disagree with you.

So you said no one offered a solution without reading my solution?

The peace offering would be a new city. Everyone displaced from their home would be offered to live in the city, the home given to them paid for by the Jews. Back in 1948 this city could have been built in Gaza. The only requirement for the Palestinians to get the home would be to sign a peace treaty with Israel agreeing to their right to exist in Israel and rejecting all this hateful rhetoric about wiping them out. Since 1948 5 million Palestinians left Israel, only 2 million remain, but for most of them there is resentment because their homes were robbed from them. If you had 5 million living in a thriving first world city in Gaza working hand in hand with Israel it would expose the remaining Palestinians who want to be terrorist as murderous and hateful. There would be no ground to be accusing Israel today of genocide or ethnic cleansing. You would have contrast, those that were at peace with Israel being blessed and those dedicated to murder being cursed.

How much would this one city cost? Pennies on the dollar compared to the money Israel has spent fighting terrorism, both with weapons and in the publics perception.

Abraham was not only blessed so that he would be blessed, he was blessed so that he would be a blessing to the nations and that includes the Palestinians.

I appreciate your answer. So I'll be more specific this time. Because Hamas uses human shields and because they will never stop killing Jews, there is no situation where no one dies. So the only question is will there be more or less loss of life. Given this reality, is it more moral to allow 10,000 deaths or 100,000?

If your logic states that fewer people killed is always better no matter what, would you see it as morally sound for all 8 billion non-Jews around the world to kill the 16.1 million Jews on earth IF it meant saving more than 16.1 million lives would be preserved long term (future generations)?

Just curious, when we play with numbers to make a moral case, is consideration taken for the future generations and those future generations etc... that the original 10,000 people would have had? If so, that variable really complicates things as Gaza has an incredibly high birth rate in comparison to Israel.

No, this is not the position with Israel. smh The reason we can't get anywhere in this discussion is either people are believing the lies they telling themselves, or they're just lying. I can't figure which with some people. But your comment is a lie. What Israel is doing is self defense.

Yes, by all means lets follow what Albert Pike, a Confederate and freemason, had to say and not the Bible. lol

Again, plenty of blame on all sides. Understanding whose worse than who doesn't fix anything. Either you want the killing to end or you don't. Given the reality of the situation, innocent people are going to die either way. Since more will die if things go back to business as usual, I'm in favor of trying something else that will actually end the killing.
I hear a lot of people grumbling and complaining. I hear few solutions.

I understand there is plenty of blame to go around. That's for others to sort out. I'm only concerned to put an end to the needless and wanton death. This will never happen while Hamas or any other group bent on Israel's destruction is allowed in the area. Anything short of this guarantees more of the same.

I was asking for practical solutions, not wishful thinking.

I was seeking practical solutions, as I said elsewhere. Gaza was occupied by Israel until 2007. The economy was comparatively good and Israel had started a thriving business that helped Gazans a lot. Israel left Gaza to self rule, removed Israeli settlements and destroyed them so settlers could not return. Gazans had a tremendous opportunity to live in peace and prosperity. What did they do with that opportunity? They had elections and chose Hamas, the warmongers, instead of Fatah, who live in relative peace with Israel. Hamas made sure that Fatah could not contest elections by murdering every Fatah member.

And of course, there have been no elections since. Palestinians have no intention of living in peace with Israel, under any circumstances. Will that change in future? Perhaps. History suggests not . But for now, Hamas is still firing rockets at Israel, still attacking IDF forces and still holding hostages. Hamas has shown no remorse for the brutal and unprovoked attacks on Israel and Palestinians have shown little or no concern for the suffering of Israelis.

No military has warns cilvilans of impending attacks. Except the IDF.

You should read your Bible more carefully. Arabs are descended from Ishmael. God foretold that there would be conflict between the descendants of Ishmael and the descendants of Abraham. And so it has been, on and off, through history.

By all means look them up. And I would also look into the "sheep and goats judgement".

Simply stated: during the "end times" (actually it is the beginning of the DOTL) 70th week of Daniel, the nations that help Israel are the "sheep", whereas the nations that hate Israel are the "goats".

Hating Israel is no trivial matter. It can land you in the lake of fire for eternity. Because the real sentiment underlying hating Israel is actually the hate of the God that loves Israel.

Oh and by the way..........serious believing legit Christians have all those passages I quoted committed to memory.

I was going to say something, but you put it better with this. Morality is not a numbers game.

Frankly I don't need your help regarding eschatology. I have it nailed down.
As for Angela I very well know her views. And basically disagree with all of them. She appears to be a pseudo-intellectual liberal.......and utterly, hopelessly clueless. I have yet to see her even once successfully defend her position. Including her views on women pastors.

Fake eschatology? Really.......
Isaiah 14:1-3 is fake eschatology?
How about Ezekiel 16:60-63?
Isaiah 11:11-16?
Isaiah 60:1-22?

Those are but a few passages from recent posts. I could back up the truck and add 100 (actually hundreds) more very very easily.

So let me ask you:
Do you truly believe that these passages are authentically and genuinely written by the Spirit of God with His unwavering intent to fulfill them?

Yes or No.