The Commandments of God

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Aaron56

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(Note: Please pardon the brevity of this post. Think of it as more of an outline.)

From the title, your mind probably went to the Ten Commandments. This is excusable because, like me, any mention of “God’s Commandments” when we were growing up, specifically meant “The Ten Commandments”.

However, The Ten Commandments (TTCs) are not the first commandments of God. Not even close. To understand this, we must set some groundwork.

Before God gave TTCs at Sinai, it was common for God to speak with man. From Adam to Moses, communication with God was a normal part of a believer’s life. It was to be expected. Several thousands of years existed before one word of the Bible was written.
At Sinai there were commandments given to the people BEFORE TTCs were given. God gave specific instruction to the people and the priests who were present.
There were priests of God before the Levitical priesthood was established by the Law given at Sinai. This is important. The priests before the Law were typically the oldest living males within families. Unlike the Levitical priests who were segregated from the rest of the Jews, the early priests were in and among their families, households, and tribes. Some even ruled entire cities. As rulers, in their regions and in their families, communication with God and obedience to God were taught as common expectations of a holy people.

The commandments of God are not only what was written on stone at Sinai. They include “…every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.” These words, as the Jesus taught, are what constitutes the life of man. It is therefore imperative that the words of God must have been spoken from the beginning of man. An interesting scripture concerning this can be found in 1st Samuel 3:1 “Now the boy Samuel ministered to the Lord before Eli. And the word of the Lord was rare in those days; there was no widespread revelation.” This does not mean “there were not enough copies of the Torah”. This is literally: “men rarely heard from God”.

Now, I’m going to skip a bit here to get to my conclusion. This bit assumes you understand the changing of the testament: from Old to New; and how that affects our communication with God.

Now “God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself” so we may ask “To what type of relationship are we reconciled to God?” In the New Covenant, in Christ, we may call God “our Father”. The obligation of our Father is this “The Father loves the Son and shows him all that He Himself is doing.” The sons of God (all are sons who are in Christ) are then prompted to “do only what they see their Father doing”. This describes the synergy between God the Son and God the Father before the world was made. It is to this synergy that all are restored in Christ. And it is marked by regular communication between the Father and the sons.

What is the means of this communication? Spirit to spirit. The spirit in men in Christ is the Holy Spirit. This is the same Holy Spirit who was with the Father and Son at the beginning of the world. The picture of creation in Genesis 1 is the Spirit hovering over the face of the waters and Christ instructing the Spirit to create what He proclaims. This authority to create, of course, was given to Christ by His Father. So, the order of creation was from God to Christ to the Holy Spirit and then to being. Christ was given “all the Father has” and was the only One with the commensurate authority to perfectly carry out creation.

So, if we are able to receive it, commands of God existed before the world was made and commands of God are in and throughout the scriptures from the beginning to the end. It is by these commands that man lives.

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.”

Notice it does not say “those who are led by Biblical teachings”. That would have excluded God speaking to us Spirit to Spirit. That would have also created another priestly system where only those who could recite the scriptures would be elevated to the ranks of leadership. This also explains how certain Jews could recite the whole Old Testament but reject Jesus: they were not led by the spirit but by the black and white of the letters and puffed up in their own knowledge.

God commands us today. It is by this direction that we live. Under the Law, God said nothing about the rock beside me. But now, as a son of God, He may ask me to remove the rock from the room. If I refuse to do this I am disobedient even though the Law is silent on the matter. Now, because I have the Spirit of God in me, God’s Laws, not the Levitical Laws which includes the 10 Commandments but His very being and nature, are written on my heart. Because of this transformation I too, like Christ, may properly represent my Father in the earth.

His words, then, the words that proceed from His mouth to me, are His commandments to me. They are the food by which I live in the Spirit.

“..the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”

By heeding these commands we show that we are His workmanship. This is an interesting choice of words. The use of the word “workmanship” to describe us signifies that, by examining the thing built, one may understand the builder. This is why Jesus could proclaim “When you see me you see the Father.” As sons of God, we show that we are His workmanship by living by His commands, by every word that proceeds from His mouth. He is our Father and the Father loves the sons.
 

Blik

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To simplify all this, God created us and our world, along with the way we are to live in it. This way was given to man from the beginning, although sin entered in, and sin is like putting sand in the gas tank of a car.

The first act of God for us was to create a family, and give instructions about how to treat that family. God created woman to be a helpmate of man and told them to have children.

Second thing God did for us was to give us Christ as a reaction to the disobedience of Adam and Eve. God gave man the sacrificial system as a symbol of Christ until Christ came as a reality. Without Christ, our sins would mean our death, we have life through the forgiveness of our sins.

Man has always been given the spirit of the Lord, but also the written word. Moses gave us the OT, with the spirit of God given as fleshly symbols. For example, the knowledge of circumcision was give through the cutting of flesh. Christ gave us the NT, that testament was to explain the symbolism, to give us the spirit of God directly.
 

Aaron56

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#3
To simplify all this, God created us and our world, along with the way we are to live in it. This way was given to man from the beginning, although sin entered in, and sin is like putting sand in the gas tank of a car.

The first act of God for us was to create a family, and give instructions about how to treat that family. God created woman to be a helpmate of man and told them to have children.

Second thing God did for us was to give us Christ as a reaction to the disobedience of Adam and Eve. God gave man the sacrificial system as a symbol of Christ until Christ came as a reality. Without Christ, our sins would mean our death, we have life through the forgiveness of our sins.

Man has always been given the spirit of the Lord, but also the written word. Moses gave us the OT, with the spirit of God given as fleshly symbols. For example, the knowledge of circumcision was give through the cutting of flesh. Christ gave us the NT, that testament was to explain the symbolism, to give us the spirit of God directly.
One correction: the written word came about 2000 years after Adam was created.
 

Aaron56

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#4
Since many are still discussing commandments…
 

Magenta

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The commandments of God are not only what was written on stone at Sinai.
They include “…every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.”

From Matthew 4:4
:)
 

Magenta

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His words, then, the words that proceed from His mouth to me, are His
commandments to me. They are the food by which I live in the Spirit.

“..the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”

John 6:63
:)
 

TMS

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#7
The laws, statutes, and commandments of God are a reflection of God's character,
God is love, God wants us to live by His commandments because when we transgress the law we sin and sin = death and pain.
Sin = separation from God.

Like dark and light.

The commandments of God are for the Good of all and God gave them to us from the beginning.. as time went on sin became stronger and seperated us from God more.

So God gave the law on stone and Moses wrote the laws down as a record.

Some laws do not change and some laws were nailed to the cross.

Which laws are nailed to the cross?
 

Pilgrimshope

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#8
(Note: Please pardon the brevity of this post. Think of it as more of an outline.)

From the title, your mind probably went to the Ten Commandments. This is excusable because, like me, any mention of “God’s Commandments” when we were growing up, specifically meant “The Ten Commandments”.

However, The Ten Commandments (TTCs) are not the first commandments of God. Not even close. To understand this, we must set some groundwork.

Before God gave TTCs at Sinai, it was common for God to speak with man. From Adam to Moses, communication with God was a normal part of a believer’s life. It was to be expected. Several thousands of years existed before one word of the Bible was written.
At Sinai there were commandments given to the people BEFORE TTCs were given. God gave specific instruction to the people and the priests who were present.
There were priests of God before the Levitical priesthood was established by the Law given at Sinai. This is important. The priests before the Law were typically the oldest living males within families. Unlike the Levitical priests who were segregated from the rest of the Jews, the early priests were in and among their families, households, and tribes. Some even ruled entire cities. As rulers, in their regions and in their families, communication with God and obedience to God were taught as common expectations of a holy people.

The commandments of God are not only what was written on stone at Sinai. They include “…every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.” These words, as the Jesus taught, are what constitutes the life of man. It is therefore imperative that the words of God must have been spoken from the beginning of man. An interesting scripture concerning this can be found in 1st Samuel 3:1 “Now the boy Samuel ministered to the Lord before Eli. And the word of the Lord was rare in those days; there was no widespread revelation.” This does not mean “there were not enough copies of the Torah”. This is literally: “men rarely heard from God”.

Now, I’m going to skip a bit here to get to my conclusion. This bit assumes you understand the changing of the testament: from Old to New; and how that affects our communication with God.

Now “God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself” so we may ask “To what type of relationship are we reconciled to God?” In the New Covenant, in Christ, we may call God “our Father”. The obligation of our Father is this “The Father loves the Son and shows him all that He Himself is doing.” The sons of God (all are sons who are in Christ) are then prompted to “do only what they see their Father doing”. This describes the synergy between God the Son and God the Father before the world was made. It is to this synergy that all are restored in Christ. And it is marked by regular communication between the Father and the sons.

What is the means of this communication? Spirit to spirit. The spirit in men in Christ is the Holy Spirit. This is the same Holy Spirit who was with the Father and Son at the beginning of the world. The picture of creation in Genesis 1 is the Spirit hovering over the face of the waters and Christ instructing the Spirit to create what He proclaims. This authority to create, of course, was given to Christ by His Father. So, the order of creation was from God to Christ to the Holy Spirit and then to being. Christ was given “all the Father has” and was the only One with the commensurate authority to perfectly carry out creation.

So, if we are able to receive it, commands of God existed before the world was made and commands of God are in and throughout the scriptures from the beginning to the end. It is by these commands that man lives.

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.”

Notice it does not say “those who are led by Biblical teachings”. That would have excluded God speaking to us Spirit to Spirit. That would have also created another priestly system where only those who could recite the scriptures would be elevated to the ranks of leadership. This also explains how certain Jews could recite the whole Old Testament but reject Jesus: they were not led by the spirit but by the black and white of the letters and puffed up in their own knowledge.

God commands us today. It is by this direction that we live. Under the Law, God said nothing about the rock beside me. But now, as a son of God, He may ask me to remove the rock from the room. If I refuse to do this I am disobedient even though the Law is silent on the matter. Now, because I have the Spirit of God in me, God’s Laws, not the Levitical Laws which includes the 10 Commandments but His very being and nature, are written on my heart. Because of this transformation I too, like Christ, may properly represent my Father in the earth.

His words, then, the words that proceed from His mouth to me, are His commandments to me. They are the food by which I live in the Spirit.

“..the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”

By heeding these commands we show that we are His workmanship. This is an interesting choice of words. The use of the word “workmanship” to describe us signifies that, by examining the thing built, one may understand the builder. This is why Jesus could proclaim “When you see me you see the Father.” As sons of God, we show that we are His workmanship by living by His commands, by every word that proceeds from His mouth. He is our Father and the Father loves the sons.
“His words, then, the words that proceed from His mouth to me, are His commandments to me. They are the food by which I live in the Spirit.”



Amen

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the Ten Commandments however

“But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: how shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?

For if that which is done away was glorious, ( stones ) much more that which remaineth is glorious. Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: and not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭3:7-8, 11-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the Ten Commandments are what God said to people who didn’t have cjroet living in them didn’t have atonement or the holy ghost nor did they have the truth Jesus came to tell us

a christian shouldn’t need to be reminded not to kill by a written law it should be already stamped on thoer hesrt not to kill they should never need to hear it again because God has changed thier hearts law and written his truth upon it “ Love one another as I have loved you “

Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭6:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

if I’m following the law of Christ ( the gospel ) being told not to kill becomes an irrelevant thing God has written his truth on our hearts and this is how it gets there

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Moses said in the law God would raise up one from among them to speak his true words of requirement for all men then later Peter conforms Moses was talking about Jesus who would come and speak Gods true words
 

Aaron56

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#9
The laws, statutes, and commandments of God are a reflection of God's character,
God is love, God wants us to live by His commandments because when we transgress the law we sin and sin = death and pain.
Sin = separation from God.

Like dark and light.

The commandments of God are for the Good of all and God gave them to us from the beginning.. as time went on sin became stronger and seperated us from God more.

So God gave the law on stone and Moses wrote the laws down as a record.

Some laws do not change and some laws were nailed to the cross.

Which laws are nailed to the cross?
Right.

Where once God spoke to us through the prophets and through tablets of stone, He now speaks to us by His Son.

"God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person..."

See the underlined "His"? That was inserted. It should read: "..spoken to us by Son..." It is now by Christ Jesus that we know (enter into intimate relationship with) the Father. When the reality appears there is no need for the shadow of the thing. We know the Father by knowing the Son.

Imagine, after being away on a long trip to Europe, I arrive home to my wife the same time a letter a sent from overseas arrives. Do you think she will read the letter first or embrace me and speak directly to me while I am in her midst? She might even ignore the letter entirely and forget about it.

There is one Spirit. By one Spirit the Father knows the Son and Son knows the Father. For those of us In Christ, we also know our Father by that one Spirit. Furthermore, to cement this truth further, we are called "sons of God" by that one Spirit.

Our reconciliation with God does not bring us back to the garden of Eden. Reconciliation brings us back to the time when Father and Son and the Holy Spirit existed from the foundation of the world.

“I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me."


Here, we see that Jesus prayed for the glory God gave Him to be given to us.

We might rightfully quote (Isaiah 42:8 “I am the Lord; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another...") saying "God will not give His glory to another."

Correct!

But in Christ, we are not "another". We are actually His flesh and His bones.... His body.

So, how do we know what to do at every moment?

"For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does"

Our Father loves us and shows us what we are to do.

Being led by the Spirit is the standard of life for those in Christ.