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Cameron143

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Wrong doctrine.
False doctrine.
Maybe.I just said what I saw.
What is more terrible than the False doctrine is that believers use the False doctrine to blame anyone of being a false prophet and false teacher.
Actually, for false doctrines,I am usually very cautious about such topics.
This will be really worst Great tribulation ever.
I mean that when a false doctrine is accepted by most people, on the other hand, false prophets and false teachers will become true in people's eyes, and true will become false.
If it has already happened, wouldn't it just have to have been the worst ever to that point?
 
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If it has already happened, wouldn't it just have to have been the worst ever to that point?
But this is the prophecy of the Bible. Even if it happens, you and I can't change anything. This is what puzzles me. I even worry about whether I am wrong when I blame a certain doctrine of being wrong.
 

Cameron143

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But this is the prophecy of the Bible. Even if it happens, you and I can't change anything. This is what puzzles me. I even worry about whether I am wrong when I blame a certain doctrine of being wrong.
It's simply what God has chosen. He's sovereign. That's what it means to be sovereign. You can make choices that cannot be thwarted.
 

10-22-27

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Welcome to CC!
Please be patient with me. I read your post 3 times, know you were a devout Catholic at one time & have done a lot of studying, but I didn't see if you had accepted Christ as your Savior & Lord. There have been many devout Catholics that never did that, & I wanted to be sure. You see I quit making judging assumptions that folks are already saved a long time ago. I hope that you are, & that we can be both brethren & friends.
:)
Edify, never was a devout Catholic, I was too young. When I went to church, their masses were in Latin, so I sat there like a bump on a log. Am I a Christian? Fair question. Yes, I believe every word written in the Bible. I believe Jesus is the Son of God, manifest in the flesh. he is our Savior and Redemer, our future husband. Born of a virgin in the line of David of the family of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. If you need to know more about me, go to my website, seekfirstwisdom.com. thanks for asking, important to know who you're speaking to, friend or foe.
 

GRACE_ambassador

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...If you need to know more about me, go to my website...
Precious friend, thanks for the Bible study 'link'. Of course, in my life-long
student profession, I also have 'proof-reading' skills, so, here's one:

..."Were told that in this period of 483 Years, the street, (meaning the open square) shall be built again, and the wall (speaking of the moat around the city), even in troublous times.”...

Should be "We're"?

Still reviewing / learning / developing Bible questions... - thanks again...

Chris E. (hopefully a 'friend'...) ♫ 😇 ↑
 

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How do I learn? First, I will go to someone I can trust with God’s word, then ask my questions, sit down, and become a good listener. .
It has been my experience that they only "Someone" one can trust completely is the Holy Spirit..
 

hornetguy

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It has been my experience that they only "Someone" one can trust completely is the Holy Spirit..
I agree, because you said "completely"... The Spirit is the one true source for all truth...

Which does not negate the importance of seeking the counsel of spiritually wise brethren. Much knowledge can be gained from listening to others. This is clearly scriptural, when reading the description of the body of believers, about various spiritual gifts given to people to edify the church. The gift of knowledge, the gift of teaching, etc....

If the only "person" you trust is the Spirit, then there is no need for you to fellowship with other believers.... and that is not scriptural.
 

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I agree, because you said "completely"... The Spirit is the one true source for all truth...

Which does not negate the importance of seeking the counsel of spiritually wise brethren. Much knowledge can be gained from listening to others. This is clearly scriptural, when reading the description of the body of believers, about various spiritual gifts given to people to edify the church. The gift of knowledge, the gift of teaching, etc....
Well indeed the Holy Spirit can and does speak to us through other people.. Thats why i made sure to put that ""completely" in my post.. People seem to have moments of inspiration from the Holy Spirit..

If the only "person" you trust is the Spirit, then there is no need for you to fellowship with other believers.... and that is not scriptural.
You can fellowship with people who you think are wrong on one or two doctrines part of fellowship is discussing beliefs and helping others.. You do not need to trust them as you would trust God to have fellowship with them..