Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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No. (though I assume this is hyperbolic, we are on a Christian chat, someone comparing Biden to Jesus would be blasphemous).

But it does bother me when people are slandering other people on this forum, like you saying I am incapable of refraining myself without providing a single post to back up your assertion. I don't mind correction, I don't mind clearing up a misunderstanding. But slander, that bothers me.

So for the second time point me to a post of mine that would cause you to say what you said.
Flip through the pages. Each time someone has made a point You seem to disagree with You suddenly provide a random youtube video that provides Biden doing the same or worse. Why even do that if You are not bothered?
 

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If you can, hand on your heart, after an honest analysis, say that Iran did not test Trump, I’ll fall in line. But rest assured, I’ll test your analysis thoroughly.
Iran fell into line when Trump cut off most of their oil sales and froze their funds. No money, no bombs.
Under both Obama and Biden, funds freed up and oil sales allowed. Increased bombing.
They also allowed for uranium enrichment.

I don't get it. Trump, by virtue of his willingness to employ military and economic might, made the world a much safer place. How is this even a point of argument. Was every single action prevented? No. That's impossible. Were there far fewer incidents? Yes. Were they more benign? Yes.
 

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Flip through the pages. Each time someone has made a point You seem to disagree with You suddenly provide a random youtube video that provides Biden doing the same or worse. Why even do that if You are not bothered?
This forum is a journal, you can go back to a day, or a month or a year to see what people are speaking.

Again, where is the post of me not being able to refrain myself in my speaking? Post it or apologize.
 
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This forum is a journal, you can go back to a day, or a month or a year to see what people are speaking.

Again, where is the post of me not being able to refrain myself in my speaking? Post it or apologize.
It's a journal? And You are providing opposing evidence to what others add? I only ask because I do not see any videos that slam Trump from You in the same manner they slam Biden. So if there was a Biden thread, You would be slamming Trump?
 

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Iran fell into line when Trump cut off most of their oil sales and froze their funds. No money, no bombs.
Under both Obama and Biden, funds freed up and oil sales allowed. Increased bombing.
They also allowed for uranium enrichment.

I don't get it. Trump, by virtue of his willingness to employ military and economic might, made the world a much safer place. How is this even a point of argument. Was every single action prevented? No. That's impossible. Were there far fewer incidents? Yes. Were they more benign? Yes.
President Trump made Iran’s nuclear program go from zero to sixty in one speech.
 
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This thread is 163 pages long. Many times our words can be formed so they hide our intent. But actions speak the words that are not being said.
 

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It's a journal? And You are providing opposing evidence to what others add? I only ask because I do not see any videos that slam Trump from You in the same manner they slam Biden. So if there was a Biden thread, You would be slamming Trump?
For the last three years Donald Trump was irrelevant. If he were president then yes, of course. Most of my posts are dealing with Trump, I have posted many news reports recently on Colorado's removing him from the ballot. However, as I have said already not supporting Trump has a lot to do with what is happening in the world and what your choice is. Our choice is not between drafting Kareem Abdul Jabbar or Michael Jordan. I could understand a valid debate on that topic.

Once again, where is the post of mine that demonstrates I am unable to refrain myself? This is absurd, I have asked repeatedly for you to support your slander and instead you keep asking irrelevant questions that have nothing to do with explaining or justifying your slander.
 
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For the last three years Donald Trump was irrelevant. If he were president then yes, of course. However, as I have said already not supporting Trump has a lot to do with what is happening in the world and what your choice is. Our choice is not between drafting Kareem Abdul Jabbar or Michael Jordan. I could understand a valid debate on that topic.

Once again, where is the post of mine that demonstrates I am unable to refrain myself? This is absurd, I have asked repeatedly for you to support your slander and instead you keep asking irrelevant questions that have nothing to do with explaining or justifying your slander.
You expect me to believe if someone says something bad about Trump and then randomly 3 posts later a video from You appears destroying Biden on the "same specific subject matter" that is just a mere coincidence? OK then, if You say so, I will take Your word for it then.
 

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You expect me to believe if someone says something bad about Trump and then randomly 3 posts later a video from You appears destroying Biden on the "same subject matter" that is just a mere coincidence? OK then, if You say so, I will take Your word for it then.
This is a thread on that topic, that is what people do. If no one posted there would be no Christianchat.com. This comment is nonsensical.

This thread has become the key thread concerning the presidential campaign for 2024. You have people posting all the reasons why they don't like Trump. One person said he flirts with women younger than him. Another said his jokes are off color. A third has said that many years ago he said something creepy about his daughter. I have no issue with any of those posts, they are true, so no need to respond.

On the other hand I have also listed some issues concerning Joe Biden.

He lied to us about Hunter Biden's influence peddling. He has weaponized the DOJ. He has allowed 8 million illegal aliens to invade this country. He has allowed 35,000 terrorists into this country. He has sent $140 billion to Ukraine which was laundered back to politicians in the 2022 election. He did a horrible job of leaving Afghanistan. Bidenomics is horrible. We are now on the verge of WW3 with world leaders like Putin, Xi, and Biden threatening to use nuclear weapons.

You see, fair and balanced account of the two candidates and the current situation.
 
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This is a thread on that topic, that is what people do. If no one posted there would be no Christianchat.com. This comment is nonsensical.

This thread has become the key thread concerning the presidential campaign for 2024. You have people posting all the reasons why they don't like Trump. One person said he flirts with women younger than him. Another said his jokes are off color. A third has said that many years ago he said something creepy about his daughter. I have no issue with any of those posts, they are true, so no need to respond.

On the other hand I have also listed some issues concerning Joe Biden.

He lied to us about Hunter Biden's influence peddling. He has weaponized the DOJ. He has allowed 8 million illegal aliens to invade this country. He has allowed 35,000 terrorists into this country. He has sent $140 billion to Ukraine which was laundered back to politicians in the 2022 election. He did a horrible job of leaving Afghanistan. Bidenomics is horrible. We are now on the verge of WW3 with world leaders like Putin, Xi, and Biden threatening to use nuclear weapons.

You see, fair and balanced account of the two candidates and the current situation.
I do not disagree this is a political war zone here and everyone is shooting straight from the hip. I just think the subject matter one posts indicates their true feelings.
 

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I do not disagree this is a political war zone here and everyone is shooting straight from the hip. I just think the subject matter one posts indicates their true feelings.
Sharing my true feelings is not a violation of the rules of the forum. You accused me of violating the rule to refrain from personal attacks on others. That is what you did when you slandered me. If you had provided an offending post then fine, I would have responded. Either apologized or corrected the misunderstanding. However, instead of owning up to your fault by apologizing you have continued to have all these irrelevant posts that have nothing to do with your offending comment.
 
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Sharing my true feelings is not a violation of the rules of the forum. You accused me of violating the rule to refrain from personal attacks on others. That is what you did when you slandered me. If you had provided an offending post then fine, I would have responded. Either apologized or corrected the misunderstanding. However, instead of owning up to your fault by apologizing you have continued to have all these irrelevant posts that have nothing to do with your offending comment.
No, I asked if this was personal and You said no. But now You claim it's sharing Your true feelings. So I was correct, this is personal to You.
 
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I still love You, Brother in Christ. I guess we have different understandings towards how we define words.
 

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No, I asked if this was personal and You said no. But now You claim it's sharing Your true feelings. So I was correct, this is personal to You.
This doesn't make any sense, what you think the rule for this forum is to only post things you don't care about?

You complained that one of the posters was not following the rules of the forum.

I posted this from the rules for this forum:

As of late many of the threads in this forum have degraded into nasty mannered mud slinging contests and as a result a couple of them have been closed in the past couple of days because there has been no individual user that has been the sole offender, just a topic that got heated and progressively the bar got lowered.

Christian Chat understands that some political and social topics are going to be hot button topics and that those topics are going to more prone to heated discussion, however we still expect those heated discussions to be held with a level of civility. For the time being if these discussions continue to degrade we will continue to close them, however we will reserve the right to remove some (or all) of the users that are frequent offenders.

And then you accused me of being unable to refrain from making it personal. Either that post was a reference to the discussion at the time, or else it was a non sequitor that has 0 meaning.

By your words we will know you. This exchange has really helped reveal who "uncle_mike" is. Interesting you have only been a member for a week, but now we know who you are.
 
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This doesn't make any sense, what you think the rule for this forum is to only post things you don't care about?

You complained that one of the posters was not following the rules of the forum.

I posted this from the rules for this forum:

As of late many of the threads in this forum have degraded into nasty mannered mud slinging contests and as a result a couple of them have been closed in the past couple of days because there has been no individual user that has been the sole offender, just a topic that got heated and progressively the bar got lowered.

Christian Chat understands that some political and social topics are going to be hot button topics and that those topics are going to more prone to heated discussion, however we still expect those heated discussions to be held with a level of civility. For the time being if these discussions continue to degrade we will continue to close them, however we will reserve the right to remove some (or all) of the users that are frequent offenders.

And then you accused me of being unable to refrain from making it personal. Either that post was a reference to the discussion at the time, or else it was a non sequitor that has 0 meaning.

By your words we will know you. This exchange has really helped reveal who "uncle_mike" is. Interesting you have only been a member for a week, but now we know who you are.
I have not spent much time in this area of this site. My assumption of one rule means it applies to every area. I guess from now on I will read the rules for every area here. Either way, I am able to maintain the general rule. It makes me wonder why others cannot.
 

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I am a cop, why would being a Christian following the rules be any different than the rules I already follow every day of my life?
You just joined here. I get you're used to life running a certain way. But you might just want to take breath before you start directing people here. Most people don't take to it you'll find.
 
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You just joined here. I get you're used to life running a certain way. But you might just want to take breath before you start directing people here. Most people don't take to it you'll find.
I apologize. I thought there was one standard rule. Be my guest and rip me a new one :)
 

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This is the entire context and quote:

"I don’t think Ivanka would do that inside the [Playboy] magazine, although she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said that if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her."

I'm doing my best to keep an opened mind on what else Trump could have met by him dating her if she wasn't his daughter if the statement immediately prior to that his response to a question of how he would feel if Ivanka posed for Playboy.

Also, if he didn't do this on the national tv, my guess is you would say it was a lie. Perhaps you might think this was a deep fake?

Can you please enlighten us on what you think he meant please? :unsure::unsure::unsure:

Nope I told you what I thought, next question.