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2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Check the internet.

No, you made the claim. You should cite the source.

I think you just made this up or accepted this false information without checking it yourself.

Which makes me wonder what else you've made up or accepted without verifying. This is how false teaching is perpetuated. As such, I would be hesitant to accept anything else you've posted.


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HeIsHere

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it really doesn't, you know. the blood in the baby's veins is the baby's blood.
Agree, the baby starts to make its own blood.

It starts towards the end of the third week or at the beginning of the fourth week of fetal development.
Once the cardiovascular system is fully established, blood circulation commences and the embryo can directly derive nutrients from its own blood supply.

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Ted01

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Ted, we both agree that the mother's blood does not enter into the bloodstream of the unborn. That's all that's important concerning this article. If one drop of Mary's blood would have entered into the Christ child, it would have been considered unclean. I know you know these verses, just a reminder to others.

1 Peter 1:18-19, “We were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.”

"Without spot or blemish, externally and internally.

Ephesians 1:7, “We have redemption through His blood; even the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace.”
Okay, brother... maybe your point is a good thing to consider and discuss.

My point is that while reading this thread I've seen people make statements like the baby pushes its blood through the umbilical cord, and only the father's blood is in the baby, and only the father contributes DNA to the fetus... wildly incorrect views about biology.

All of these statements were made in attempts by people as if you and they had the ability to speak scientifically about how God created Jesus in the womb of Mary. But it's clear to me that many don't even have a high school level understanding of basic human biology. I don't understand why people want to act/speak as if they/you understand the science behind God creating... it's absolutely ludicrous.

When Scripture tells us that we are "fools for Christ", it's not meant to be taken literally, in fact it goes on to say that we are to be wise. Scripture also says:

@ Tim. 2:14-17 (ESV)

14 Remind them of these things and charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers. 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. 16 But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, 17 and their talk will spread like gangrene...

The point of what I'm saying is those foolish conversations, like this thread, are the type of things that needlessly make Christians look like idiots. Speaking about things that we have no understanding of while pretending that we're experts of, falls into the category of "irreverent babble".

My hope is that you would quit doing that...
 

wolfwint

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Okay, brother... maybe your point is a good thing to consider and discuss.

My point is that while reading this thread I've seen people make statements like the baby pushes its blood through the umbilical cord, and only the father's blood is in the baby, and only the father contributes DNA to the fetus... wildly incorrect views about biology.

All of these statements were made in attempts by people as if you and they had the ability to speak scientifically about how God created Jesus in the womb of Mary. But it's clear to me that many don't even have a high school level understanding of basic human biology. I don't understand why people want to act/speak as if they/you understand the science behind God creating... it's absolutely ludicrous.

When Scripture tells us that we are "fools for Christ", it's not meant to be taken literally, in fact it goes on to say that we are to be wise. Scripture also says:

@ Tim. 2:14-17 (ESV)

14 Remind them of these things and charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers. 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. 16 But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, 17 and their talk will spread like gangrene...

The point of what I'm saying is those foolish conversations, like this thread, are the type of things that needlessly make Christians look like idiots. Speaking about things that we have no understanding of while pretending that we're experts of, falls into the category of "irreverent babble".

My hope is that you would quit doing that...
Do you questioning that only the fathers blood is in the fetal body?
 

notmyown

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Agree, the baby starts to make its own blood.

It starts towards the end of the third week or at the beginning of the fourth week of fetal development.
Once the cardiovascular system is fully established, blood circulation commences and the embryo can directly derive nutrients from its own blood supply.

Link
yes! my blood type is A, my husband's is B. our kids are a mixed bag, 3 type A, one type B, and 2 AB.

if what's being proposed is true, they should all be type B. positive! lol
 

wolfwint

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Agree, the baby starts to make its own blood.

It starts towards the end of the third week or at the beginning of the fourth week of fetal development.
Once the cardiovascular system is fully established, blood circulation commences and the embryo can directly derive nutrients from its own blood supply.

Link
And that is only possible through the mothers blood which give all the stuff through the placental Membran into the blood of the embryo.
 

Ted01

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Do you questioning that only the fathers blood is in the fetal body?
Perhaps you will allow me to answer your question with a question?
How in the world would the blood of the father get into the baby?

The baby's blood is it's own...
 

wolfwint

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Perhaps you will allow me to answer your question with a question?
How in the world would the blood of the father get into the baby?

The baby's blood is it's own...
Oh dear, see i am just having cold and feeling not well. Thats a bad excuse!
You are right, i have researched a little bit more. Of course it is the babys own blood.
I was indeed impressed from 10-22-27 statement.
I excuse for my babble i did.
 

notmyown

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Oh dear, see i am just having cold and feeling not well. Thats a bad excuse!
You are right, i have researched a little bit more. Of course it is the babys own blood.
I was indeed impressed from 10-22-27 statement.
I excuse for my babble i did.
this is one of many reasons i'm so fond of my German brother. :)

not enough of us is willing to admit we were wrong, myself included!
 

10-22-27

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Interesting read

The Mystery of the Blood Revealed
SALVATION, RESTORATION, SIN, VICTORIOUS LIVING, THE WORD

https://www.jimandjanean.com/home/2018/10/22/the-mystery-of-the-blood-revealed

The Bible tells us in Romans 5:8-21 that all mankind died through Adam’s sin, because Adam represented us all. But it also says that through Jesus we can all live again. This was accomplished by His blood. The shed blood of Jesus carried great power, but it is a mystery to those who do not know Christ. For us, who have received Jesus as our Savior, the mystery is revealed.

The Word tells us that the life of any creature is in its blood. Adam originally had the life of God, but lost it when he sinned and became separated from God. Spiritual death is separation from God. This changed Adam’s nature from a righteous man to a sinner, and contaminated his bloodline. In addition, Adam had handed over his authority to rule the earth to satan. God wanted to get His creation back, but He had to do it legally since authority over the earth had been given to the devil. To do this, He had to enter the earth as a man in a real flesh and blood body.

When a baby is conceived, the blood type and the blood charateristics of the child comes from the father. Because the blood of every human had been tainted by sin, the blood of this second Adam had to be pure. Therefore, God placed His very own seed in the womb of Mary, which produced a human being that carried the very blood of God. This is how Jesus legally came to earth as a man, but without sin, since His blood was not tainted by sin. He was a human but technically was not in the bloodline of the first Adam

Jesus lived on the earth and overcame every temptation to sin. When Jesus shed His blood, His pure blood washed away man’s sin. Because the life is in the blood, when we accept Jesus and His shed blood, we receive His life. Our sins are washed away and we receive the God life; eternal life. The life that Adam lost has now been restored through Jesus’ work on the cross. Praise the Lord!

Death once held us in its grip, and by the blunder of one man, death reigned as king over humanity. But now, how much more are we held in the grip of grace and continue reigning as kings in life, enjoying our regal freedom through the gift of perfect righteousness in the one and only Jesus, the Messiah! In other words, just as condemnation came upon all people through one transgression, so through one righteous act of Jesus’ sacrifice, the perfect righteousness that makes us right with God and leads us to a victorious life is now available to all. One man’s disobedience opened the door for all humanity to become sinners. So also one man’s obedience opened the door for many to be made perfectly right with God and acceptable to him. Romans 5:17-19 (The Passion Translation, TPT)
Thanks for that well thought out response. Happy New Year
 

10-22-27

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And since Joseph was not the father, that issue is moot. And the Bible does call the blood of Christ "the blood of God" but stated differently (Acts 20:28). Of course both the Father and the Spirit are Spirits, so this term refers only to the blood of Christ, who was conceived by the Holy Ghost.

Nehemiah said, "And since Joseph was not the father, that issue is moot."

Nice to have friends. Happy New Year! I may have said what you said a little different, but you are right on, and I couldn't have said it any better or in fewer words.
 
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Nehemiah said, "And since Joseph was not the father, that issue is moot."

Nice to have friends. Happy New Year! I may have said what you said a little different, but you are right on, and I couldn't have said it any better or in fewer words.
yes it is nice to have friends isn't it.

But not the friends who use friends
To build an alliance to destroy friends.

Happy New year to you to
 

10-22-27

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On the last forum I was on, they nicknamed me, the dreaded scourge.
 

10-22-27

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Okay, brother... maybe your point is a good thing to consider and discuss.

My point is that while reading this thread I've seen people make statements like the baby pushes its blood through the umbilical cord, and only the father's blood is in the baby, and only the father contributes DNA to the fetus... wildly incorrect views about biology.

All of these statements were made in attempts by people as if you and they had the ability to speak scientifically about how God created Jesus in the womb of Mary. But it's clear to me that many don't even have a high school level understanding of basic human biology. I don't understand why people want to act/speak as if they/you understand the science behind God creating... it's absolutely ludicrous.

When Scripture tells us that we are "fools for Christ", it's not meant to be taken literally, in fact it goes on to say that we are to be wise. Scripture also says:

@ Tim. 2:14-17 (ESV)

14 Remind them of these things and charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers. 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. 16 But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, 17 and their talk will spread like gangrene...

The point of what I'm saying is those foolish conversations, like this thread, are the type of things that needlessly make Christians look like idiots. Speaking about things that we have no understanding of while pretending that we're experts of, falls into the category of "irreverent babble".

My hope is that you would quit doing that...
I believe you all missed the point of this post. Jesus inherited the throne by the blood of King David, bypassing King Solomon. PROPHESY FULFILED." That was what this post was about, not some ridiculous conversation about a mother and father's blood.
 
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On the last forum I was on, they nicknamed me, the dreaded scourge.
sending blank replies back won't insult me either

Did you get your idea of the scourge from here







Holier than Thou: The Scourge of Religious Hypocrisy


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I am sick to death of religious hypocrisy. It’s a widespread, ever-burgeoning malady that infects our relationships, communities, institutions, politics, and even our families.