What Does It Mean That God Desires All People To Be Saved?

I see in the midst of. upon them. or in the group.

among
בְּקִרְבּ֖וֹ (bə·qir·bōw)
Preposition-b | Noun - masculine singular construct | third person masculine singular
Strong's 7130: The nearest part, the center

And I just think it was different. When is the last time a believer had to pray for the Lord not to take the Spirit from them? We can't pray for that. So it was different somehow. I just believe that the indwelling of the Spirit is unique for the Church.

Trusting in Jesus Christ was the way, is the way, will be the way. Same for ALL mankind. FAIR.

They were eternally saved. Born-again? I would have to study that more. That seems to be a church age def.? They were in paradise, and not led to heaven until Jesus Died on the Cross. So something was different.

I couldn't go into much more detail on the differences.

Believe it or not, you don't have to be divine to save someone, but it would help muchly.

My granddaughter has so much faith in her father, my son, that she'll scramble up to the highest step he'll allow her and, watching him the entire tire as much as his eyes are attending to her, she giggles as she leaps off knowing he is near and will catch her.
I think your idea of God's word is Moses Law, which He gave through Moses and appointed Aaron to preside over but, what then if He replaced Moses, the house, with the builder of the house, Jesus, and Aaron, the mortal priest, with His Son, the everlasting high priest and His Word is, "Trust Him as You Trust Me," but you refuse to obey it? That is if you don't trust the Son then you don't trust the Father and vice versa.

Although my son may tell my granddaughter, "Jump," there will come a point in time when my son tells my granddaughter to refrain from leaping off the stair at him, for good reason, and if she continues to jump... that is disobedience.

I just took it for granted everybody here knew what the Gospel was. Yes, I should be more specific.

If we recognize we are sinners and in need of salvation. If we trust in Christ His life,death and He rose again(His work on the Cross) for our sins we shall be saved.

That's what we need to know about God to be saved. And every rational creature has that truth revealed to them at some time in their lives. And if we are slack with our witness,He or some other believer will pick up the slack.

I was just asking questions. Isaiah 63:11 does speak of OT saints and the Spirit indwelling them. The promise of the Father spoken of by Jesus and prophesied in Joel and fulfilled on Pentecost was the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. The difference in OT and NT saints seems to be the degree to which the Holy Spirit is experienced. The OT speaks often of sprinkling. The NT of outpouring.

You need to be divine to save someone from their sin.

You believe every person who ever lived heard the gospel?

If thou purposely set your house on fire, and then the fire department rescues you; did they need to be divine to save you from your sin i.e. wrongdeed?

I really don't have a problem with indwelling. But it seems that the Holy Spirit could come and go. Where we are sealed. And He's permanent with us.

At some point. But I would appreciate being saved by a fireman first.

Now we are getting into the murky. Every rational, free, cognitive person who ever lived will somehow get the Gospel(Christ and His work on the Cross for our sins) message. The "normal" accountable person will get the Gospel somehow, somewhere.

So, the blessing in disguise? He condemned us ALL at birth. So He is fair and Just to save anyone that is not accountable, doesn't have the mental capacity or for whatever reason can't understand the Gospel.

The legal tender in every instance of salvation has always been faith. Even so, an alternative coinage would've been acceptable, and the terms were specifically explained, and each individual had to work for his own, no one could depend on the wages of another because an unalloyed pure coin was needed, sinlessness. Jesus earned that coveted coin but deposited? it into the community chest when he accepted the sentence of death so that anyone that had to pay that sentence could, by use of the money that God declared to be a fair tender, such that He values it, (i.e. come, buy without money) that is faith...

You seem a little confused. The problem is that we are not woke from the dead, nor rescued into the afterlife. The first is a miracle, and the second wouldn't be a rescue.

You are correct that most experiences with the Holy Spirit were characterized as you say. But, then again, the Bible only speaks of a remnant being saved. But if OT saints aren't indwelt, you have 2 different ways of salvation, not 1.
I just think God was concealing His ways and purposes in the OT, and as NT saints 2,000 years removed from the cross, we are the beneficiaries of a higher degree of revelation than our earlier brethren.

Love me with tender,
Love me true.
All my dreams fulfilled.

That is an example of choosing. I see nothing about free will there? And you know, God was telling them to
circumcise their hearts. Were they able to? Were you able to? I know I was not able to circumcise my own heart.
Scripture says it is not done by human hands, i.e., it is a work of the Spirt, and Peter said nobody was able to bear
the burdens put on them. So the idea of choosing, though impossible for the natural man, is possible with God.

Deuteronomy 30:6~ The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love Him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live.

Oh, my darling,
I loved you,
And you're in my will.

Hebrews 11:6

I was just looking for the verse that God says, "I am your reward..." if I'm remembering it correctly...