The First War Began In Heaven

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happydolphin007 said:
If you read Genesis 3 it clearly states the enemy, has entered into the serpent.
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Yes.. satan did.. But that does not mean he no longer had the freedom to enter back into heaven.. Satan can enter and depart..
 
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happydolphin007 said:
The identification and eschatological meaning of the scapegoat of Leviticus 16 has generated much discussion in academic circles. Within ancient Jewish tradition, the scapegoat was always seen as a demonic being. 2 But since the postapostolic period, many Christian expositors have tried to identify it with Christ and His sacrificial death. White is actually saying that When Christ, by virtue of his own blood, removes the sins of his people from the heavenly sanctuary at the close of his ministration, he will place them upon Satan, who, in the execution of the judgment, must bear the final penalty. This means God will destroy satan at the very end, after the thousand years have finished Please refer to Revelation 20. Jesus is likened to the Lamb slain, the innocent Lamb bought to the slaughter, not a scape goat.

Do you also disagree that that when White speaks of the Reformers that were martyred, she wrote about, John Wycliffe, the Waldenses and many others. Do you agree with her writings here? This lady had many visions from God.
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Leviticus 16: 8, 9
‘Then Aaron shall cast lots for the two goats: one lot for the Lord and the other lot for the scapegoat. And Aaron shall bring the goat on which the Lord’s lot fell and offer it as a sin offering.’

Leviticus 16: 15, 16
‘Then he shall kill the goat of the sin offering, which is for the people, bring its blood inside the veil, do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat and before the mercy seat. So he shall make atonement for the Holy place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions, for all their sins; and so he shall do for the tabernacle of meeting which remains among them in the midst of their uncleanness.’

Leviticus 16: 30, 33
’For on that day the priest shall make atonement for you, to cleanse you, that you may be clean from all your sins before the Lord. Then he shall make atonement for the Holy Sanctuary, and he shall make atonement for the tabernacle of meeting and for the altar, and he shall make atonement for the priests and for all the people of the assembly.’


Therefore, the first scapegoat
 
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Dear friend, there is so much confusion in the church, I believe that God wants us to be bold, even if we stand as a minority. The story of the ten virgins is powerful, all of them had lamps, but, not all had enough oil in their lamps.
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I think Lucifer might not be Satan's name. I think it might just be a translation of a word and then people just started treating it as his name.
 
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Hello, thanks for your response, although I believe we shouldn't speculate and go off on how we may interpret scripture, but by the word of God

The Name Satan actually means 'Adversary'
Lucifer is Satan please read the following citations from God's inspired word.
Isaiah 14:12-14
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."

Luke confirms that the one that fell was Satan. (he was given his name when he rebelled)

"And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." Luke 10:18
 
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