June 10th, 1967

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June 10th, 1967 should have been a moment of victory over their enemies, but Israel’s leader Moshe Dayan conceded sovereignty over this most holy site to their enemies. Israeli half-tracks led the attack, crashing through the massive bronze doors onto the Via Delarosa; they turned left onto the Temple Mount. Commando Paratroopers Gur and Achmon rushed up a flight of stairs leading to a large plaza—the golden Dome of the Rock and the silver-domed al-Aqsa.

Gur radioed headquarters: “The Temple Mount is in our hands,” he is making the most historic claim in 1900 years. The focus of centuries of Jewish longing, the place toward which Jews prayed no matter where they lived, was now in their possession. Ezra Orni took an Israeli flag and asked Gur whether he should hang it over the Dome of the Rock. “Yalla,” said Gur, “go up.”

Achmon accompanied him into the Dome of the Rock. They climbed to the top of the building and fastened the flag onto a pole topped with an Islamic crescent, but it was quickly lowered. Defense Minister Moshe Dayan had been watching through binoculars from Mount Scopus, urgently radioed Gur, and demanded: “Do you want to set the Middle East on fire?”

And so, the flag was lowered, and to this day, the Temple Mount remains in the hands of their enemies.

Matthew 23:37-38, Jesus was speaking, he said, “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kill the prophets, and stoned them which are sent unto you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you would not! Behold your house is left unto you desolate.” “Not one stone shall be upon another.”

Next came Jesus’ prophesy of doom. “You shall not see me henceforth, until you shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the LORD.” The glory of the Lord has departed from Israel.

Did Moshe Dayan act with wisdom or with weakness? Was his decision his will, or was it God’s will? What would they have done if the Temple mount had remained in their hands? They would have defiled themselves again with their transgressions. The glory of the Lord has departed from them until they say, “Blessed is he that comes in the name of the LORD.”

For the above reason and others, I do not believe the Jews will be building a third temple, it’s not the will of God for them to do so.
 

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June 10th, 1967 should have been a moment of victory over their enemies, but Israel’s leader Moshe Dayan conceded sovereignty over this most holy site to their enemies. Israeli half-tracks led the attack, crashing through the massive bronze doors onto the Via Delarosa; they turned left onto the Temple Mount. Commando Paratroopers Gur and Achmon rushed up a flight of stairs leading to a large plaza—the golden Dome of the Rock and the silver-domed al-Aqsa.

Gur radioed headquarters: “The Temple Mount is in our hands,” he is making the most historic claim in 1900 years. The focus of centuries of Jewish longing, the place toward which Jews prayed no matter where they lived, was now in their possession. Ezra Orni took an Israeli flag and asked Gur whether he should hang it over the Dome of the Rock. “Yalla,” said Gur, “go up.”

Achmon accompanied him into the Dome of the Rock. They climbed to the top of the building and fastened the flag onto a pole topped with an Islamic crescent, but it was quickly lowered. Defense Minister Moshe Dayan had been watching through binoculars from Mount Scopus, urgently radioed Gur, and demanded: “Do you want to set the Middle East on fire?”

And so, the flag was lowered, and to this day, the Temple Mount remains in the hands of their enemies.

Matthew 23:37-38, Jesus was speaking, he said, “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kill the prophets, and stoned them which are sent unto you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you would not! Behold your house is left unto you desolate.” “Not one stone shall be upon another.”

Next came Jesus’ prophesy of doom. “You shall not see me henceforth, until you shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the LORD.” The glory of the Lord has departed from Israel.

Did Moshe Dayan act with wisdom or with weakness? Was his decision his will, or was it God’s will? What would they have done if the Temple mount had remained in their hands? They would have defiled themselves again with their transgressions. The glory of the Lord has departed from them until they say, “Blessed is he that comes in the name of the LORD.”

For the above reason and others, I do not believe the Jews will be building a third temple, it’s not the will of God for them to do so.

It doesn't say in the Bible who will build the temple. Who knows? The antichrist and his government might build it as part of the peace deal with the Jews at the beginning of the 7 years. That way, after 3.5 years, he can come in, abolish the daily sacrifices and desecrate it.

Remember how in the Bible it says that antichrist and his government will destroy Mystery Babylon? Mystery Babylon is a false ecumenical religion encompassing all of them. This includes Islam. When the antichrist government destroys Mystery Babylon, it will include Islam and then they can come in and destroy the Dome of the Rock to build the Jewish temple.


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It doesn't say in the Bible who will build the temple. Who knows? The antichrist and his government might build it as part of the peace deal with the Jews at the beginning of the 7 years. That way, after 3.5 years, he can come in, abolish the daily sacrifices and desecrate it.

Remember how in the Bible it says that antichrist and his government will destroy Mystery Babylon? Mystery Babylon is a false ecumenical religion encompassing all of them. This includes Islam. When the antichrist government destroys Mystery Babylon, it will include Islam and then they can come in and destroy the Dome of the Rock to build the Jewish temple.


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To add to this, King Herod rebuilt the second temple and expanded it during Jesus time, not the Jews. He did this to gain favor with them. The Antichrist might do this too for the same reasons.

But we'll see! I think it's too early to say that the third Jewish temple can't be built. We've all been astonished at all the prophecies about Israel that already have come to pass, right?


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To add to this, King Herod rebuilt the second temple and expanded it during Jesus time, not the Jews. He did this to gain favor with them. The Antichrist might do this too for the same reasons.

But we'll see! I think it's too early to say that the third Jewish temple can't be built. We've all been astonished at all the prophecies about Israel that already have come to pass, right?


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I'm curious, it appears everyone I communicate on this subject, seems to outwardly imply (not you) that there is no way the Dome of the Rock can be the Temple the antichrist will claim to be the Temple of God? I cannot think of a more abominable structure sitting on the Holy place then an Islamic shrine built to worship a false god called Allah. Then the antichrist goes to this Temple, claims he is God, standing in the Temple of God, I don't get it!
 

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I'm curious, it appears everyone I communicate on this subject, seems to outwardly imply (not you) that there is no way the Dome of the Rock can be the Temple the antichrist will claim to be the Temple of God? I cannot think of a more abominable structure sitting on the Holy place then an Islamic shrine built to worship a false god called Allah. Then the antichrist goes to this Temple, claims he is God, standing in the Temple of God, I don't get it!

It's a different take for sure.

But even if it was the temple that the Bible is talking about, the Muslims aren't allowing the Jews to make their daily sacrifices there right now. So the Muslims have to be removed from there somehow or get them to allow the Jews to do that. Also, I've never heard the Jews ever say that they're willing to let the Dome remain intact and not bother building their own temple to God to make the sacrifices there.

So we'll see! It's going to very interesting how all this plays out.


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It's a different take for sure.

But even if it was the temple that the Bible is talking about, the Muslims aren't allowing the Jews to make their daily sacrifices there right now. So the Muslims have to be removed from there somehow or get them to allow the Jews to do that. Also, I've never heard the Jews ever say that they're willing to let the Dome remain intact and not bother building their own temple to God to make the sacrifices there.

So we'll see! It's going to very interesting how all this plays out.


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Don't be surprised if in the next 4 or 5 months you see two men dressed in sackcloth standing at the top of Mr. Moriah.
 

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Don't be surprised if in the next 4 or 5 months you see two men dressed in sackcloth standing at the top of Mr. Moriah.
I have enjoyed your comments, you did give me a few things to consider, or even reconsider. I'm 86, and still learning. I guess it's never too late, is it?
 

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I have enjoyed your comments, you did give me a few things to consider, or even reconsider. I'm 86, and still learning. I guess it's never too late, is it?
As of today, over 25,000 Palestinian's have been killed in their war with Israel. My guess is all the Islamic nations headed by the ancient Persians (modern day Iran) are preparing for an all-out war against Israel. Our President is being ill-advised by a bunch of liberals that wouldn't know the difference between the Bible and 'It's all in the family." The devil has taken our leaders and has given them "strong delusions, that they shall believe the lie."

"And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (3 1/2 months), clothed in sackcloth."
 

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As of today, over 25,000 Palestinian's have been killed in their war with Israel. My guess is all the Islamic nations headed by the ancient Persians (modern day Iran) are preparing for an all-out war against Israel. Our President is being ill-advised by a bunch of liberals that wouldn't know the difference between the Bible and 'It's all in the family." The devil has taken our leaders and has given them "strong delusions, that they shall believe the lie."

"And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (3 1/2 months), clothed in sackcloth."
Months or years? Who are the 2 witnesses?
 

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Months or years? Who are the 2 witnesses?
There are only two possibilities. Elijah and Enoch. Moses already died once. Or they will be two Jewish men who are alive today. I'm going with Enoch and Elijah.
 

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There are only two possibilities. Elijah and Enoch. Moses already died once. Or they will be two Jewish men who are alive today. I'm going with Enoch and Elijah.
What about something symbolic?
 

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June 10th, 1967 should have been a moment of victory over their enemies, but Israel’s leader Moshe Dayan conceded sovereignty over this most holy site to their enemies. Israeli half-tracks led the attack, crashing through the massive bronze doors onto the Via Delarosa; they turned left onto the Temple Mount. Commando Paratroopers Gur and Achmon rushed up a flight of stairs leading to a large plaza—the golden Dome of the Rock and the silver-domed al-Aqsa.

Gur radioed headquarters: “The Temple Mount is in our hands,” he is making the most historic claim in 1900 years. The focus of centuries of Jewish longing, the place toward which Jews prayed no matter where they lived, was now in their possession. Ezra Orni took an Israeli flag and asked Gur whether he should hang it over the Dome of the Rock. “Yalla,” said Gur, “go up.”

Achmon accompanied him into the Dome of the Rock. They climbed to the top of the building and fastened the flag onto a pole topped with an Islamic crescent, but it was quickly lowered. Defense Minister Moshe Dayan had been watching through binoculars from Mount Scopus, urgently radioed Gur, and demanded: “Do you want to set the Middle East on fire?”

And so, the flag was lowered, and to this day, the Temple Mount remains in the hands of their enemies.

Matthew 23:37-38, Jesus was speaking, he said, “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kill the prophets, and stoned them which are sent unto you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you would not! Behold your house is left unto you desolate.” “Not one stone shall be upon another.”

Next came Jesus’ prophesy of doom. “You shall not see me henceforth, until you shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the LORD.” The glory of the Lord has departed from Israel.

Did Moshe Dayan act with wisdom or with weakness? Was his decision his will, or was it God’s will? What would they have done if the Temple mount had remained in their hands? They would have defiled themselves again with their transgressions. The glory of the Lord has departed from them until they say, “Blessed is he that comes in the name of the LORD.”

For the above reason and others, I do not believe the Jews will be building a third temple, it’s not the will of God for them to do so.
well you say it's doom but He is saying that the day will come when they will say " blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord"

The temple will be built during the great tribulation when Antichrist is raging against everything god so called and worshipped as god ... he will set himself to stamp out all religion INCLUDING the church.

Israel will be in some kind of pact with him never supposing that he will renege on them and march into Jerusalem and take the seat in the temple declaring that he is himself God.

Antichrist will meet his end there slain by the returning Lord. That is the END of Antichrist not the beginning as the pre-tribs teach.

Then Jesu's saying will come to pass "you will see Me no more until you say blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord."
 

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It doesn't say in the Bible who will build the temple. Who knows? The antichrist and his government might build it as part of the peace deal with the Jews at the beginning of the 7 years. That way, after 3.5 years, he can come in, abolish the daily sacrifices and desecrate it.

Remember how in the Bible it says that antichrist and his government will destroy Mystery Babylon? Mystery Babylon is a false ecumenical religion encompassing all of them. This includes Islam. When the antichrist government destroys Mystery Babylon, it will include Islam and then they can come in and destroy the Dome of the Rock to build the Jewish temple.


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spot on
 

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For the above reason and others, I do not believe the Jews will be building a third temple, it’s not the will of God for them to do so.
The Bible does not imply that the Jews will be doing it.

It doesn't say in the Bible who will build the temple. Who knows? The antichrist and his government might build it as part of the peace deal with the Jews at the beginning of the 7 years. That way, after 3.5 years, he can come in, abolish the daily sacrifices and desecrate it.
^^^^ This ^^^^
To add to this, King Herod rebuilt the second temple and expanded it during Jesus time, not the Jews. He did this to gain favor with them. The Antichrist might do this too for the same reasons.
^^^^ And This ^^^

2 Thess 2:
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Daniel 9:27
“And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
 

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Israel will be in some kind of pact with him never supposing that he will renege on them and march into Jerusalem and take the seat in the temple declaring that he is himself God.
Yes. At Mid-Trib.
Antichrist will meet his end there slain by the returning Lord. That is the END of Antichrist not the beginning as the pre-tribs teach.
No. The Pre-Tribs do not believe that Christ destroys antichrist and returns at Mid-Trib. We believe in seven years of Trib and that AC is destroyed at Second Coming.
 

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June 10th, 1967 should have been a moment of victory over their enemies, but Israel’s leader Moshe Dayan conceded sovereignty over this most holy site to their enemies. Israeli half-tracks led the attack, crashing through the massive bronze doors onto the Via Delarosa; they turned left onto the Temple Mount. Commando Paratroopers Gur and Achmon rushed up a flight of stairs leading to a large plaza—the golden Dome of the Rock and the silver-domed al-Aqsa.

Gur radioed headquarters: “The Temple Mount is in our hands,” he is making the most historic claim in 1900 years. The focus of centuries of Jewish longing, the place toward which Jews prayed no matter where they lived, was now in their possession. Ezra Orni took an Israeli flag and asked Gur whether he should hang it over the Dome of the Rock. “Yalla,” said Gur, “go up.”

Achmon accompanied him into the Dome of the Rock. They climbed to the top of the building and fastened the flag onto a pole topped with an Islamic crescent, but it was quickly lowered. Defense Minister Moshe Dayan had been watching through binoculars from Mount Scopus, urgently radioed Gur, and demanded: “Do you want to set the Middle East on fire?”

And so, the flag was lowered, and to this day, the Temple Mount remains in the hands of their enemies.

Matthew 23:37-38, Jesus was speaking, he said, “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that kill the prophets, and stoned them which are sent unto you, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you would not! Behold your house is left unto you desolate.” “Not one stone shall be upon another.”

Next came Jesus’ prophesy of doom. “You shall not see me henceforth, until you shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of the LORD.” The glory of the Lord has departed from Israel.

Did Moshe Dayan act with wisdom or with weakness? Was his decision his will, or was it God’s will? What would they have done if the Temple mount had remained in their hands? They would have defiled themselves again with their transgressions. The glory of the Lord has departed from them until they say, “Blessed is he that comes in the name of the LORD.”

For the above reason and others, I do not believe the Jews will be building a third temple, it’s not the will of God for them to do so.
1967
Isn't that the year the little horn subdued three horns?
He sure looks stouter than his fellows.


24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.




It's almost time for the persecution of the saints to begin in Israel.
 

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Yes. At Mid-Trib.

No. The Pre-Tribs do not believe that Christ destroys antichrist and returns at Mid-Trib. We believe in seven years of Trib and that AC is destroyed at Second Coming.
2nd coming is the rapture ... therefore after the trib

Jesus comes to reign
 

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I'm curious, it appears everyone I communicate on this subject, seems to outwardly imply (not you) that there is no way the Dome of the Rock can be the Temple the antichrist will claim to be the Temple of God? I cannot think of a more abominable structure sitting on the Holy place then an Islamic shrine built to worship a false god called Allah. Then the antichrist goes to this Temple, claims he is God, standing in the Temple of God, I don't get it!
Aren't our bodies supposed to be the temple of God? How about the antichrist residing in the hearts and minds of men via a mark in their right hands or foreheads, as the so-called vaccines are purported to enable?
 

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Months or years? Who are the 2 witnesses?
Good morning Cameron, it's Years. I did it again, it just proves I'm not a perfect 10. As for all these horns you asked about, the whole of the Middle East is going to be on fire.
 

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Good morning Cameron, it's Years. I did it again, it just proves I'm not a perfect 10. As for all these horns you asked about, the whole of the Middle East is going to be on fire.
I didn't ask about horns. But I would be interested in knowing if you believe the 2 witnesses could be symbolic?