"For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth." - God does not love all sinners?
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Hey, Nehemiah. I was actually sort of expressing the dichotomy shown by these two verses. John 3:16 says "For God so loved the world", so it would seem God loves the whole world. Hebrews 12:6 says he chastens those he loves though, perhaps he chastens everyone? I was maybe reading it like he only chastens his sons and daughters.
hello, Lee 
keep asking the Lord for the truth.
i just want to point out Jn 3:16 is a simple statement of fact, in which the words "whosoever will" do not appear.
the word "so" there is not an adverb of degree, saying God loved the world SOOOOO much. it is rather an adverb of manner, telling us in what way God loved the world. He did it by giving His one and only Son.
what people like to think of as "whosoever will", in Greek, is pas ho pisteuón. it means all (pas) the (ho) ones believing (pisteuón). to my surprise, the NLT comes closest to getting the translation right, in my opinion:
For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
it's a declarative sentence expressing a truth, nothing more, and nothing less.
God bless you, brother.
keep asking the Lord for the truth.
i just want to point out Jn 3:16 is a simple statement of fact, in which the words "whosoever will" do not appear.
the word "so" there is not an adverb of degree, saying God loved the world SOOOOO much. it is rather an adverb of manner, telling us in what way God loved the world. He did it by giving His one and only Son.
what people like to think of as "whosoever will", in Greek, is pas ho pisteuón. it means all (pas) the (ho) ones believing (pisteuón). to my surprise, the NLT comes closest to getting the translation right, in my opinion:
For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
it's a declarative sentence expressing a truth, nothing more, and nothing less.
God bless you, brother.
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You have misread this verse.. It says nothing about Gods love either way for sinners.. It simply states that God disciplines His followers..
Other verses clearly reveal Gods love for sinners..
(Romans 5:8) "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
Other verses clearly reveal Gods love for sinners..
(Romans 5:8) "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."
hello, Lee
keep asking the Lord for the truth.
i just want to point out Jn 3:16 is a simple statement of fact, in which the words "whosoever will" do not appear.
the word "so" there is not an adverb of degree, saying God loved the world SOOOOO much. it is rather an adverb of manner, telling us in what way God loved the world. He did it by giving His one and only Son.
what people like to think of as "whosoever will", in Greek, is pas ho pisteuón. it means all (pas) the (ho) ones believing (pisteuón). to my surprise, the NLT comes closest to getting the translation right, in my opinion:
For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
it's a declarative sentence expressing a truth, nothing more, and nothing less.
God bless you, brother.
keep asking the Lord for the truth.
i just want to point out Jn 3:16 is a simple statement of fact, in which the words "whosoever will" do not appear.
the word "so" there is not an adverb of degree, saying God loved the world SOOOOO much. it is rather an adverb of manner, telling us in what way God loved the world. He did it by giving His one and only Son.
what people like to think of as "whosoever will", in Greek, is pas ho pisteuón. it means all (pas) the (ho) ones believing (pisteuón). to my surprise, the NLT comes closest to getting the translation right, in my opinion:
For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
it's a declarative sentence expressing a truth, nothing more, and nothing less.
God bless you, brother.
God's born again sheep are the only ones that can hear and believe (John 10:26-29).
aid a father has ten children lives then all but then five of them choose to leave his home even when he’s telling them it’s really dangerous out there don’t go just stay home son ….and they go out into the world then they are killed by bandits
Was the problem that the father never loved them ? Or was the issue he let then choose freely and was telling then the truth all along because he dearly loved them but they wouldn’t listen
is it a lack of the fathers love that led then to death ?
God showed his love this way
“Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.”
1 John 3:16 KJV
He did that for everyone so anyone who believes the gospel can be saved some will accept him others will reject him but he didn’t force anyone either way he made a way to be saved because he loves creation they don’t always love him however
“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”
1 John 2:1-2 KJV
what jesus did can re it anyones sin some will believe it others will reject it like those children some will stay home others will leave and then return home in repentance but some will not want to stay home with father in his love it is t that God lacks love for even the worst person it’s that they lack love for him
Was the problem that the father never loved them ? Or was the issue he let then choose freely and was telling then the truth all along because he dearly loved them but they wouldn’t listen
is it a lack of the fathers love that led then to death ?
God showed his love this way
“Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.”
1 John 3:16 KJV
He did that for everyone so anyone who believes the gospel can be saved some will accept him others will reject him but he didn’t force anyone either way he made a way to be saved because he loves creation they don’t always love him however
“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”
1 John 2:1-2 KJV
what jesus did can re it anyones sin some will believe it others will reject it like those children some will stay home others will leave and then return home in repentance but some will not want to stay home with father in his love it is t that God lacks love for even the worst person it’s that they lack love for him
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Amen imagine raising a child and just letting them do whatever they want to do without consequence and correction no good father would do that but absentee and neglectful fathers would never teach thier children right from wrong and about consequences of choice it would be a dereliction of a fathers duty to withhold correction and tantamount to leading the child astray
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EVERY TRANSLATION DISAGREES WITH YOU AND AGREES WITH WHAT I POSTED.
New International Version
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
New Living Translation
“For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
English Standard Version
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Berean Standard Bible
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Berean Literal Bible
For God so loved the world that He gave the only begotten Son, so that everyone believing in Him should not perish, but should have eternal life.
King James Bible
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
New King James Version
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
New American Standard Bible
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.
NASB 1995
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
NASB 1977
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Legacy Standard Bible
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Amplified Bible
“For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Christian Standard Bible
For God loved the world in this way: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
“For God loved the world in this way: He gave His One and Only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life.
American Standard Version
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For God loved the world in this way: so much that he would give up his Son, The Only One, so that everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost, but he shall have eternal life.
Contemporary English Version
God loved the people of this world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who has faith in him will have eternal life and never really die.
Douay-Rheims Bible
For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.
English Revised Version
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
God loved the world this way: He gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him will not die but will have eternal life.
Good News Translation
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not die but have eternal life.
International Standard Version
"For this is how God loved the world: He gave his unique Son so that everyone who believes in him might not be lost but have eternal life.
Literal Standard Version
for God so loved the world that He gave the only begotten Son, that everyone who is believing in Him may not perish, but may have continuous life.
Majority Standard Bible
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
New American Bible
For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life.
NET Bible
For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
New Revised Standard Version
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life.
New Heart English Bible
For God loved the world in this way: He gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting life.
Webster's Bible Translation
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Weymouth New Testament
For so greatly did God love the world that He gave His only Son, that every one who trusts in Him may not perish but may have the Life of Ages.
World English Bible
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only born Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Young's Literal Translation
for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.
New International Version
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
New Living Translation
“For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
English Standard Version
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Berean Standard Bible
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Berean Literal Bible
For God so loved the world that He gave the only begotten Son, so that everyone believing in Him should not perish, but should have eternal life.
King James Bible
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
New King James Version
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
New American Standard Bible
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.
NASB 1995
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
NASB 1977
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Legacy Standard Bible
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Amplified Bible
“For God so [greatly] loved and dearly prized the world, that He [even] gave His [One and] only begotten Son, so that whoever believes and trusts in Him [as Savior] shall not perish, but have eternal life.
Christian Standard Bible
For God loved the world in this way: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
“For God loved the world in this way: He gave His One and Only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life.
American Standard Version
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For God loved the world in this way: so much that he would give up his Son, The Only One, so that everyone who trusts in him shall not be lost, but he shall have eternal life.
Contemporary English Version
God loved the people of this world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who has faith in him will have eternal life and never really die.
Douay-Rheims Bible
For God so loved the world, as to give his only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth in him, may not perish, but may have life everlasting.
English Revised Version
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
God loved the world this way: He gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him will not die but will have eternal life.
Good News Translation
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not die but have eternal life.
International Standard Version
"For this is how God loved the world: He gave his unique Son so that everyone who believes in him might not be lost but have eternal life.
Literal Standard Version
for God so loved the world that He gave the only begotten Son, that everyone who is believing in Him may not perish, but may have continuous life.
Majority Standard Bible
For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
New American Bible
For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life.
NET Bible
For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
New Revised Standard Version
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life.
New Heart English Bible
For God loved the world in this way: He gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting life.
Webster's Bible Translation
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only-begotten Son, that whoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Weymouth New Testament
For so greatly did God love the world that He gave His only Son, that every one who trusts in Him may not perish but may have the Life of Ages.
World English Bible
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only born Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Young's Literal Translation
for God did so love the world, that His Son -- the only begotten -- He gave, that every one who is believing in him may not perish, but may have life age-during.
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For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Jphn 3:16
That's the Bible. We receive the Holy Spirit when we accept Christ. No one receives the Holy Spirit before they receive Christ. That, is also in the Bible. You can find it in your Bible or be persuaded by people who do not acknowledge what is actually written.
See, you even have a choice in what you are going to believe/accept right there.
Jphn 3:16
That's the Bible. We receive the Holy Spirit when we accept Christ. No one receives the Holy Spirit before they receive Christ. That, is also in the Bible. You can find it in your Bible or be persuaded by people who do not acknowledge what is actually written.
See, you even have a choice in what you are going to believe/accept right there.
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