DAY OF THE ASSEMBLY TO MEET THE LORD

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Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the householder had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have watched and would not have let his house be broken into.

If you are householder, a christian or the righteous then you should know!

Do you not understand the day of his coming is Pentecost. And why would others not know from the scriptures? The Feast of Pentecost is the only Feast of the Lord that could not be known by the calendar. The dating changes every year depending on Passover and Feast of First Fruits.

When the Israelites stood before God at Mt.Sinai and heard the Shofar or Trumpets and they froze in fear. Amazing. And when they built the Golden Calf about 3000 souls were killed, and on the Day of Pentecost came and Peter spoke, about 3000 souls were saved. God is a good book keeper.

32 “From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates.

Fig tree and almost summer points at Pentecost.

Day of Assembly

Deut. 9:10 And the Lord gave me the two tables of stone written with the finger of God; and on them were all the words which the Lord had spoken with you on the mountain out of the midst of the fire on the day of the assembly.

Last Great Assembly

2 Thess. 2-1Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him

Pentecost with history repeating itself
 
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Omegatime said:
Do you not understand the day of his coming is Pentecost
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God's Word says no man knows the day.

Jesus said only the Father knows the day He'll return

So, if he was coming on Pentecost, He'll have to change that now
 
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Stan_the_Man said:
God's Word says no man knows the day.

Jesus said only the Father knows the day He'll return

So, if he was coming on Pentecost, He'll have to change that now
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I can see you don't see Jesus as being God and was teaching/

Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily,

Romans 1:20 Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse;
 
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Stan_the_Man said:
God's Word says no man knows the day.

Jesus said only the Father knows the day He'll return

So, if he was coming on Pentecost, He'll have to change that now
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If you watched as the two witnesses died,would you not know what day or even the time of day they would ascend up into heaven?

Or if you watched as the daily sacrifice was abolished,would you not know what day the abomination of desolation would be placed in Jerusalem?

There is a reason the numbers of days are given in the bible and a reason Jesus commanded the porter to watch.
 
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Shilohsfoal said:
If you watched as the two witnesses died,would you not know what day or even the time of day they would ascend up into heaven?

Or if you watched as the daily sacrifice was abolished,would you not know what day the abomination of desolation would be placed in Jerusalem?

There is a reason the numbers of days are given in the bible and a reason Jesus commanded the porter to watch.
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Wise of you to acknowledge the numbers. If we were not to know the numbers wouldn't be in the scriptures.
 
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Omegatime said:
I can see you don't see Jesus as being God and was teaching
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Your comments have zero to do with the fact that the Lord Jesus specifically says only the Father knows the day of the Lord's return

Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Let's go with what Jesus says, shall we?
 
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Stan_the_Man said:
Your comments have zero to do with the fact that the Lord Jesus specifically says only the Father knows the day of the Lord's return

Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Let's go with what Jesus says, shall we?
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Do you know Jesus as the Father--Everlasting Father.

The creator of the world, Word of God to the prophets, the one who spoke to Abraham, pillar of fire by night and a clod by Day.

I suppose you would say --SHOW ME THE FATHER AND I WILLBE SATISFIED.
 
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Also when you were baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit----You were baptized in the name of Jesus ( Yeshua ).

Such a blindness among the righteous that they only see what is written on the surface.
 
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Stan_the_Man said:
Your comments have zero to do with the fact that the Lord Jesus specifically says only the Father knows the day of the Lord's return

Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Let's go with what Jesus says, shall we?
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Can you answer the question?
If you watched the two witnesses be killed,then would you know what day they would ascend into heaven ?

Yes or no?


Revelation 11
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
 
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You said:
"Do you not understand the day of his coming is Pentecost"

I replied:
God's Word says no man knows the day.
Jesus said only the Father knows the day He'll return
So, if he was coming on Pentecost, He'll have to change that now

Then you said:
I can see you don't see Jesus as being God and was teaching/
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily,
Romans 1:20 Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse;

Then I said:
Your comments have zero to do with the fact that the Lord Jesus specifically says only the Father knows the day of the Lord's return

Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Let's go with what Jesus says, shall we?

Then you said:
Do you know Jesus as the Father--Everlasting Father.
The creator of the world, Word of God to the prophets, the one who spoke to Abraham, pillar of fire by night and a clod by Day.
I suppose you would say --SHOW ME THE FATHER AND I WILLBE SATISFIED.

Now I'm saying...

Why do you think I'm not a Christians because I posted what Jesus said in Matthew 24:36 about only the Father knowing the day and hour of Jesus' return???

You are not following the conversation at all and saying things not even related to the topic

Is that old timers disease kicking in???
 
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Stan_the_Man said:
God's Word says no man knows the day.

Jesus said only the Father knows the day He'll return

So, if he was coming on Pentecost, He'll have to change that now
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First, what was said was "No one knows..." This is present tense. As in "no one knows at this time". So, who doesn't know, He said no one (man), angels, nor the Son; so even He did not know. He did not know as Jesus. Only the Father knew.

Let's look at something the Holy Spirit revealed to John:

Revelation 1: "This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw."

So, right away we see that this is the revelation of Jesus Christ given to Him by God. AND THEN, we see that it was given to an angel to give to John.

Jesus said "No one (man) knows, not the angels, not the Son only God. So...

No man > no angel > no Son > only God.

But Revelation 1 reverses the order of Jesus' words. In this instance, Jesus who is now the Christ, gives it to an angel to give to John.

But how did Christ get it? From the Father.

When Jesus addressed His departure, He comforted the disciples with many words.
In John 16 this is recorded:

"He (the Father) will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you."

Jesus knew His Father was about to glorify Him with the glory He had in the beginning. He also knew that all the Father had was His inheritance and that He (Jesus) was about to receive all the Father had.

Well, the Father knew the Day. So, Jesus, as the Christ, is about to receive the knowledge of the Day.

So, when He originally spoke "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" He was telling the truth, He did not know.

But now that He was going to the Father to inherit all the Father had, the revelation of the Day would be given to Him.

So, the original order was no man > no angel > no Son > only God.

But, now from heaven, through an angel, Christ gives the revelation to a man, John.

"This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw."

God gives to the >Son gives to the angels >gives to man. This is a complete reversal of the order. The circle is complete.

But if that isn't enough, here is 1 Thessalonians 5

"Now about the times and seasons, brothers, we do not need to write to you. For you are fully aware that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, “Peace and security,” destruction will come upon them suddenly, like labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
But you, brothers, are not in the darkness...
(So he's making a comparison between two camps: those who ARE in darkness and those who ARE NOT in darkness)
..so that this day should overtake you like a thief. For you are all sons of the light and sons of the day; we do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not sleep as the others do, but let us remain awake and sober."

We are NOT like those who live in darkness. Therefore, the Day of His return will not overtake us like a thief.

Conclusion: we do not presently know the day but WE WILL KNOW THE DAY. No one will know in enough time to write a book about it or to get rich off of it, but those who remain sober and awake, in the Lord, will not be surprised.
 
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Stan_the_Man said:
You said:
"Do you not understand the day of his coming is Pentecost"

I replied:
God's Word says no man knows the day.
Jesus said only the Father knows the day He'll return
So, if he was coming on Pentecost, He'll have to change that now

Then you said:
I can see you don't see Jesus as being God and was teaching/
Col. 2:9 For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily,
Romans 1:20 Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse;

Then I said:
Your comments have zero to do with the fact that the Lord Jesus specifically says only the Father knows the day of the Lord's return

Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Let's go with what Jesus says, shall we?

Then you said:
Do you know Jesus as the Father--Everlasting Father.
The creator of the world, Word of God to the prophets, the one who spoke to Abraham, pillar of fire by night and a clod by Day.
I suppose you would say --SHOW ME THE FATHER AND I WILLBE SATISFIED.

Now I'm saying...

Why do you think I'm not a Christians because I posted what Jesus said in Matthew 24:36 about only the Father knowing the day and hour of Jesus' return???

You are not following the conversation at all and saying things not even related to the topic

Is that old timers disease kicking in???
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I did not say you were not a christian........... I am saying Jesus is our Father here being the creator. And you did not understand what I wrote
Aaron56 said:
First, what was said was "No one knows..." This is present tense. As in "no one knows at this time". So, who doesn't know, He said no one (man), angels, nor the Son; so even He did not know. He did not know as Jesus. Only the Father knew.

Let's look at something the Holy Spirit revealed to John:

Revelation 1: "This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw."

So, right away we see that this is the revelation of Jesus Christ given to Him by God. AND THEN, we see that it was given to an angel to give to John.

Jesus said "No one (man) knows, not the angels, not the Son only God. So...

No man > no angel > no Son > only God.

But Revelation 1 reverses the order of Jesus' words. In this instance, Jesus who is now the Christ, gives it to an angel to give to John.

But how did Christ get it? From the Father.

When Jesus addressed His departure, He comforted the disciples with many words.
In John 16 this is recorded:

"He (the Father) will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you."

Jesus knew His Father was about to glorify Him with the glory He had in the beginning. He also knew that all the Father had was His inheritance and that He (Jesus) was about to receive all the Father had.

Well, the Father knew the Day. So, Jesus, as the Christ, is about to receive the knowledge of the Day.

So, when He originally spoke "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" He was telling the truth, He did not know.

But now that He was going to the Father to inherit all the Father had, the revelation of the Day would be given to Him.

So, the original order was no man > no angel > no Son > only God.

But, now from heaven, through an angel, Christ gives the revelation to a man, John.

"This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw."

God gives to the >Son gives to the angels >gives to man. This is a complete reversal of the order. The circle is complete.

But if that isn't enough, here is 1 Thessalonians 5

"Now about the times and seasons, brothers, we do not need to write to you. For you are fully aware that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, “Peace and security,” destruction will come upon them suddenly, like labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
But you, brothers, are not in the darkness...
(So he's making a comparison between two camps: those who ARE in darkness and those who ARE NOT in darkness)
..so that this day should overtake you like a thief. For you are all sons of the light and sons of the day; we do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not sleep as the others do, but let us remain awake and sober."

We are NOT like those who live in darkness. Therefore, the Day of His return will not overtake us like a thief.

Conclusion: we do not presently know the day but WE WILL KNOW THE DAY. No one will know in enough time to write a book about it or to get rich off of it, but those who remain sober and awake, in the Lord, will not be surprised.
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I disagree ---that Jesus didn't know--You are saying he could do any miracle, heal any disease, know all things but the timing of his coming.
 
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Aaron56 said:
First, what was said was "No one knows..." This is present tense. As in "no one knows at this time". So, who doesn't know, He said no one (man), angels, nor the Son; so even He did not know. He did not know as Jesus. Only the Father knew.

Let's look at something the Holy Spirit revealed to John:

Revelation 1: "This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw."

So, right away we see that this is the revelation of Jesus Christ given to Him by God. AND THEN, we see that it was given to an angel to give to John.

Jesus said "No one (man) knows, not the angels, not the Son only God. So...

No man > no angel > no Son > only God.

But Revelation 1 reverses the order of Jesus' words. In this instance, Jesus who is now the Christ, gives it to an angel to give to John.

But how did Christ get it? From the Father.

When Jesus addressed His departure, He comforted the disciples with many words.
In John 16 this is recorded:

"He (the Father) will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you."

Jesus knew His Father was about to glorify Him with the glory He had in the beginning. He also knew that all the Father had was His inheritance and that He (Jesus) was about to receive all the Father had.

Well, the Father knew the Day. So, Jesus, as the Christ, is about to receive the knowledge of the Day.

So, when He originally spoke "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" He was telling the truth, He did not know.

But now that He was going to the Father to inherit all the Father had, the revelation of the Day would be given to Him.

So, the original order was no man > no angel > no Son > only God.

But, now from heaven, through an angel, Christ gives the revelation to a man, John.

"This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw."

God gives to the >Son gives to the angels >gives to man. This is a complete reversal of the order. The circle is complete.

But if that isn't enough, here is 1 Thessalonians 5

"Now about the times and seasons, brothers, we do not need to write to you. For you are fully aware that the Day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. While people are saying, “Peace and security,” destruction will come upon them suddenly, like labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
But you, brothers, are not in the darkness...
(So he's making a comparison between two camps: those who ARE in darkness and those who ARE NOT in darkness)
..so that this day should overtake you like a thief. For you are all sons of the light and sons of the day; we do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not sleep as the others do, but let us remain awake and sober."

We are NOT like those who live in darkness. Therefore, the Day of His return will not overtake us like a thief.

Conclusion: we do not presently know the day but WE WILL KNOW THE DAY. No one will know in enough time to write a book about it or to get rich off of it, but those who remain sober and awake, in the Lord, will not be surprised.
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who are the people?
What is the Day of the Lord--why is it Great and Terrible and Great and Glorious?
Who is living in peace and security?
 
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Maybe this will help??

There were 3 ages and ministry of the Lord

Old Testament was the age and ministry of the Father when Israel did not know the Son, and addressed him as the Father only.

Age and Ministry of the Son was about 3 years

We are now in the age and ministry of the Holy Spirit

But if you want to know what the Father knows one must begin in the OT
 
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Omegatime said:
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I did not say you were not a christian........... I am saying Jesus is our Father here being the creator. And you did not understand what I wrote
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I disagree ---that Jesus didn't know--You are saying he could do any miracle, heal any disease, know all things but the timing of his coming.
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It's okay. I can teach you this, too.

He could not do anything He wanted. He could only do what the Father gave Him to do.

“Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner."

As Christ, after His resurrection, all authority was given to Him from the Father. Then He knew. He currently knows everything.
 
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Aaron56 said:
It's okay. I can teach you this, too.

He could not do anything He wanted. He could only do what the Father gave Him to do.

“Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner."

As Christ, after His resurrection, all authority was given to Him from the Father. Then He knew. He currently knows everything.
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I and the Father are one.”
 
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6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. 1 Corinth 8
 
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Aaron56 said:
Conclusion: we do not presently know the day but WE WILL KNOW THE DAY.
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We will only know the day and the hour when it actually happens.



Omegatime said:
I did not say you were not a christian
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You said:
Do you know Jesus as the Father--Everlasting Father.?

That is casting doubt upon one's salvation when you ask a question like this.



Omegatime said:
I disagree ---that Jesus didn't know
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Then you don't accept what Jesus said. He specifically said only the Father knows.

Here's what He said:

Matthew 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.



Aaron56 said:
He could not do anything He wanted. He could only do what the Father gave Him to do.
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And of course Jesus did not want to do anything other than what the Father wanted.

He never ever wanted to do a single thing that the Father did not want.
 
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