The hatred of Jews

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2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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i don't think they are generally bad. i'm talking the neighborhood in which i live & further out. that's how jewish people are around here & everyone knows it. please just take it as the truth because that's what it is. i don't hate them. everyone has people they don't like. so, really, forget that they are Jewish & just think of them as "people".

I think what you've come across are the very religious Jews. They usually like to live near each other so that you'll have whole neighborhoods where that's all you'll see. They're often affluent too so their neighborhoods are pretty nice. They're not fun to be around. They will shun you, avoid having to interact with you as much as possible. *Shrug* That's just the way they are. They do that to protect their culture and beliefs so don't get too mad at them. It's not personal, really.

I grew up in NYC and there are more kinds of Jews there, thank God. The ones that I'm friends with are either not practicing Jews or Jewish Christians. They're both smart and funny. Both very fun to be with. And they WANT to hang out and interact with you!

I really hope that you'll get to meet these kinds of Jews someday. They really are fun and interesting. :)


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Karlon

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I think what you've come across are the very religious Jews. They usually like to live near each other so that you'll have whole neighborhoods where that's all you'll see. They're often affluent too so their neighborhoods are pretty nice. They're not fun to be around. They will shun you, avoid having to interact with you as much as possible. *Shrug* That's just the way they are. They do that to protect their culture and beliefs so don't get too mad at them. It's not personal, really.

I grew up in NYC and there are more kinds of Jews there, thank God. The ones that I'm friends with are either not practicing Jews or Jewish Christians. They're both smart and funny. Both very fun to be with. And they WANT to hang out and interact with you!

I really hope that you'll get to meet these kinds of Jews someday. They really are fun and interesting. :)


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you explained that perfectly 2ndTimeIsThecharm. you said that like you live here. unfortunately, they hold the top spot around here in that behavior. no, i don't get mad or vengeful with them. the last Jewish man i talked to was in the chess club & he is exactly how i described them. we all know the truth, we aren't going to social around with anyone with these intense behavioral characteristics. a while back, i dated a girl for 17 years who had an immense liking for Jewish people & now my wife, who has been to Israel on a Joseph Prince tour, is much interested in the Jewish culture.
 

Karlon

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I think what you've come across are the very religious Jews. They usually like to live near each other so that you'll have whole neighborhoods where that's all you'll see. They're often affluent too so their neighborhoods are pretty nice. They're not fun to be around. They will shun you, avoid having to interact with you as much as possible. *Shrug* That's just the way they are. They do that to protect their culture and beliefs so don't get too mad at them. It's not personal, really.

I grew up in NYC and there are more kinds of Jews there, thank God. The ones that I'm friends with are either not practicing Jews or Jewish Christians. They're both smart and funny. Both very fun to be with. And they WANT to hang out and interact with you!

I really hope that you'll get to meet these kinds of Jews someday. They really are fun and interesting. :)


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i used to social around in Manhattan quite a bit. do you mind me asking which borough you grew up in?
 

Moses_Young

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Hey, I never have "justified" any war against civilians!! I have said Israel is not fighting a war against civilians.
This here is justifying war against civilians. 30,000 people dead in Gaza, for a handful of terrorists? Even if you argue all but the 13,000 children killed were terrorists or enemy combatants (which would be a ridiculous claim), it's not justified. A rough estimate of the dead in World War 2 is 85 million. To argue the war dead in Gaza is acceptable is to argue the Holocaust was simply acceptable for collateral for what reasonably could have been up 36 million. It's an insane position, and aligned with the thinking of such notable mass murderers as Stalin and Attila the Hun.

Funny how Moses doesn't see himself as emotional, but most of the red xs I have are in his name. I even joked to him about it. At this point he's not even reading my posts, just red xing them. I would call that a "emotional" response. :eek:
Lol. I do still read your posts, so the red x for this one is just in fun - I'll remove it when you've read it. I just try not to respond to most of yours on this subject because as I stated before, you respond angrily and I think you won't be convinced on this matter by reason. I try to reserve red x's for those stating disagreement with the state of Israel is hate or antisemitism or such rot, or similarly, pointing out the murder of civilians is the same. It's not, and it's a Communist tactic to make such invalid accusations, also used against those voting for Trump (remember "MAGA are facists, racists, terrorists" etc.?), but sadly, many Trump supporters don't seem to see the link as a Communist tactic.

Let me just say, a lot of these dudes and dudettes I like and agree with them on a whole host of other issues, but the blatant anti jew actual hatred I just can't understand beyond the point that they were brought up in churches with the demonstrably failed ammillennial doctrine.

It's so clear. Why can't they get past that and just believe, instead of allegorize, Scripture?
It's not hatred to disagree.

Umm... You just engaged in debate!!

While attempting to say you don't get involved with debate.

I think the Bible has a word for that.
Lol. It depends on one's definition of "engage" doesn't it, but if you'd like me to put it more accurately, how about "I won't further entertain further debate with you on this thread"?

BTW. Red XING those you disagree with, and liking posts of others that support your posittion is in effect debating. We ain't dummies!
Lol. No it's not. And if people don't keep making ridiculous comparisons by stating those who disagree are Jew-haters or antisemites or racists or similar, they'll likely avoid 90% of my red x's.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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you explained that perfectly 2ndTimeIsThecharm. you said that like you live here. unfortunately, they hold the top spot around here in that behavior. no, i don't get mad or vengeful with them. the last Jewish man i talked to was in the chess club & he is exactly how i described them. we all know the truth, we aren't going to social around with anyone with these intense behavioral characteristics. a while back, i dated a girl for 17 years who had an immense liking for Jewish people & now my wife, who has been to Israel on a Joseph Prince tour, is much interested in the Jewish culture.

But think if your kin had been though something like the Holocaust. Jews have been persecuted around the world. Antisemitism is at an all time high in America. You'd probably be suspicious of people, closed off and want to only be around people who have the same faith and traditions you do. Jews have suffered a lot as a people.
 

Karlon

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i assent to most of that. the Christians i know & others are not arrogant & they don't treat you like you are less than they are. so, on the other side of this, did Jewish parents teach the kids to act this way? there hasn't been improvement on their part because there is no change around here in their behavior. well, it may be that way all the way to the Rapture!
 

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Speaking of hatred of Jews (and America). This took place on American soil! :eek:

https://x.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1777124607750983874

I agree with Tim Young. Anyone who chants "death to America" in America should be deported. Enemies of America have no place here.
Rep. Rashida Tlaib Has Meltdown When Confronted by Fox News Reporter on ‘Death to America’ Chants at Rally in Her Dearborn, Michigan District (Video)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/rep-rashida-tlaib-has-meltdown-when-confronted-fox/
 

PennEd

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It's not hatred to disagree.
Never said it was.
Let me ask, does Israel have a right to exist? as a state,? with roughly the current borders,? with Jerusalem as it's Capital,? and to defend said borders in your view?

See? I've broken those questions down so as to not get bogged down with vagueness.

Oh, and a bonus question. Is everyone that disagree with you a "Commie"?
 

Moses_Young

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Never said it was.
Let me ask, does Israel have a right to exist? as a state,? with roughly the current borders,? with Jerusalem as it's Capital,? and to defend said borders in your view?

See? I've broken those questions down so as to not get bogged down with vagueness.

Oh, and a bonus question. Is everyone that disagree with you a "Commie"?
I will leave your earlier questions to others wiser than me to answer (I think some already have answered). But everyone who claims another is an antisemite or a Jew-hater or a racist simply because the other questions whether the slaughter of civilians by an army is justified collateral in war is engaging in a tactic used by Communists. As Christians, we should shun the practices of the devil's own children such as Communists.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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This here is justifying war against civilians. 30,000 people dead in Gaza, for a handful of terrorists? Even if you argue all but the 13,000 children killed were terrorists or enemy combatants (which would be a ridiculous claim), it's not justified. A rough estimate of the dead in World War 2 is 85 million. To argue the war dead in Gaza is acceptable is to argue the Holocaust was simply acceptable for collateral for what reasonably could have been up 36 million. It's an insane position, and aligned with the thinking of such notable mass murderers as Stalin and Attila the Hun.
Well, first of all I don't know if I believe those stats. And I don't believe Israel's intent is to wipe out Palestinians. But I do certainly believe that the intent is to wipe out Hamas. All I can say is when this is over and all the facts come out we will see if you were right or I was. But this is something that happens every time Israel has tried to get rid of Hamas. They hide in hospitals, in places they know where civilians will be and they are underground like moles. So it's very hard work to strike them and not innocent people. And Hamas will scream bloody murder every time an innocent person is hit. Even though they do all they can to make sure civilians are hit. That is what Israel is trying to work around.



Lol. I do still read your posts, so the red x for this one is just in fun - I'll remove it when you've read it.
Oh, don't take it off! We're up to 55 now! I see it as a badge of honor at this point, that you'd give me that much attention. :p All I ask is that you read before you x.


I just try not to respond to most of yours on this subject because as I stated before, you respond angrily and I think you won't be convinced on this matter by reason.
Mo, I don't have children. I have two nephews, well three, a great nephew has been added. The two older children know that come hell or high water I am there for them. You would not want to come between me and those boys. I'm not a violent person, I've never used a weapon of any sort, never been in trouble with the law. But I swear to you if you want to see anger and emotion, come between me and those boys. No one on this earth would stop me from finding them. I would not eat or sleep night and day until they were safe.

The video I posted before was the wrong one. This is the one I was looking for. I ask that you take an honest minute and watch it. It is a family that was having an 18th birthday party for their daughter. She was shot and she is laying on the floor dead. The parents try to comfort two younger children in utter shock. The father still has blood on his hands from his dead daughter. Hamas is standing over this defenseless family and the parents desperately try to child their children with their own bodies. Then watch the funeral for their 18yr old daughter. Man, I don't know how you don't get emotional and righteously indignant over this. But you watch it and tell me what feelings you come away with. Maybe you'll understand why I react as I do.





I try to reserve red x's for those stating disagreement with the state of Israel is hate or antisemitism or such rot, or similarly, pointing out the murder of civilians is the same. It's not, and it's a Communist tactic to make such invalid accusations, also used against those voting for Trump (remember "MAGA are facists, racists, terrorists" etc.?), but sadly, many Trump supporters don't seem to see the link as a Communist tactic.
Well brother, I don't know about all that. Israel has pulled it's own soldiers for investigation. If anyone is found doing anything that is criminal, they should be held responsible for it. But Hamas has already committed war crimes, so they need to held to account for it.



It's not hatred to disagree.
And I never said it was.


Lol. It depends on one's definition of "engage" doesn't it, but if you'd like me to put it more accurately, how about "I won't further entertain further debate with you on this thread"?
That is totally up to you. But now I have given you reasons why I respond as I do. Why my answers may seem emotional to you. But I will say this, if Hamas thought that this was the road to a 2 state solution, they were dead wrong!!
 

PennEd

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I will leave your earlier questions to others wiser than me to answer
Bit of a cop out.

And others wiser than you HAVE answered! LOL
The Jews DESREVE to be there! If for no other reason than what was allowed to happen to them in the Holocaust. (some extreme anti jews try and minimize or even deny it even happened. My Uncles were THERE! They couldn't even talk about how bad it was when they liberated the camps. They would cry). And a HUGE part of why it happened was the silence from the Amil pulpits. Some even in agreement.

Put that aside, God SAID He would regather them.

Sorry, I absolutely equate anti zionism with jew hate. And then when you get to the nuts and bolts of it, claiming the ashkenazi jews aren't jews, and similar garbage is nauseating.

slaughter of civilians by an army is justified collateral in war is engaging in a tactic used by Communists. As Christians, we should shun the practices of the devil's own children such as Communists.
I don't know any Christians that agree with this statement. Or the twisted nature of it.

I can guarantee if YOUR whole family and community, which extrapolates population-wise to Israel as hundreds of thousands, were butchered, raped and taken captive by surprise, you would give a damn about what it would take to eradicate the evil and get your family back.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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i used to social around in Manhattan quite a bit. do you mind me asking which borough you grew up in?

I grew up in Queens were there are plenty of Jews in varying degrees of religiosity in various enclaves. Queens College which is part of City University of New York has a lot of Jewish involvement - they even gave money so they can have their own Kosher cafeteria. When I took a few classes there for course requirements for my home campus, I would go to the Kosher cafeteria after class because it was more cozy and I like the food offerings better. It was nice and non-Jews were allowed to eat there! I think if you met the Jews there, you would love them. They really are very nice people. They are also ambitious to do well in their field of study so they were a very good influence that way. :)

But think if your kin had been though something like the Holocaust. Jews have been persecuted around the world. Antisemitism is at an all time high in America. You'd probably be suspicious of people, closed off and want to only be around people who have the same faith and traditions you do. Jews have suffered a lot as a people.

Yes, this is EXACTLY why I'm not offended at their shunning. The persecution had gotten so bad over the centuries that they've gotten to this point. So it doesn't bother me, but every time I'm shunned by them, I'm reminded of what they went through so I end up praying for God to watch over them and protect them. They REALLY need that.


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Magenta

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Well, this isn't a Muslim site. If you're going to come here and argue for the Quran, you'd expect to be banned.
It does seem a bit odd, but there have been quite a few here who say they are Christian but defend the Koran, Mohammed and Islam. One claimed she had studied the Bible for more than five decades, but then she would say things about it that simply weren't true, like, it never says or addresses such-and-such, so I would show her where it did. You may remember her, too, how she put on airs because she believed herself more educated in Islamic matters and history etc than others, while claiming at the same time that there were no reliable teachers of the same. LOL. I am reminded too of some bloke who came here trying to tell us the Koran was more reliable because the Bible has so few if any original texts available, and the usual Islamic line about how the Bible has been corrupted. He went on and on about the superiority of the Koran because it had never been changed until I let him know that all original Korans had been burned at one time, because there were serious discrepancies between different versions. So that put an end to what he was shoveling. We still see how simply informing others of what the Koran says, or facts about Mo, draws fire from people who say they are Christian, and this is nothing new. Truly ridiculous some of the things they say. The sad fact is that it is illegal in some places to tell the truth about who Mohammed was. Any who, I am off to work for now but it is not busy, so I will see you on my phone in a while, for a while, no doubt. Ciao for now .:)
 

Karlon

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I grew up in Queens were there are plenty of Jews in varying degrees of religiosity in various enclaves. Queens College which is part of City University of New York has a lot of Jewish involvement - they even gave money so they can have their own Kosher cafeteria. When I took a few classes there for course requirements for my home campus, I would go to the Kosher cafeteria after class because it was more cozy and I like the food offerings better. It was nice and non-Jews were allowed to eat there! I think if you met the Jews there, you would love them. They really are very nice people. They are also ambitious to do well in their field of study so they were a very good influence that way. :)




Yes, this is EXACTLY why I'm not offended at their shunning. The persecution had gotten so bad over the centuries that they've gotten to this point. So it doesn't bother me, but every time I'm shunned by them, I'm reminded of what they went through so I end up praying for God to watch over them and protect them. They REALLY need that.


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i have learned in the past that the Jewish way is a strict "educational" upbringing & money is just about at the top of their list of importance. i worked for a Jewish boss decades ago & he served me lunch a couple of times, of "bagels & lochs". to this day, i love it!
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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* Scream! *

I just found out one of my Muslim friends got saved!

I could burst I'm so happy!!!!! 😂 😂 😂


Please pray for our new brother in Christ! 🙏🙏🙏

Thank you Lord so much!!!! 😂 😂 😂


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No matter what I've said and done
You find it easy to forgive
I can feel your presence near

Thank You, Jesus
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Living in a modern world
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Let your loving kindness start

Thank You, Jesus
You're the power and the glory
Thank You, Jesus
You're the never-ending story
Thank You, Jesus
You're my Savior and my Lord
Oh, thank You, Jesus
You're the Father of creation
Thank You, Jesus
You are mercy and salvation
Thank You, Jesus
With Your love, my broken heart
Has been restored


Your all inspiring deeds shall be on every tongue
I will proclaim Your greatness, Jesus, holy one
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And bless His holy name for evermore

I thank You, Jesus
You're the power and the glory
Thank You, Jesus
You're the never-ending story
Thank You, Jesus
You're my Savior and my Lord
I thank You, Jesus
You're the Father of creation
Thank You, Jesus
You are mercy and salvation
Thank You, Jesus
With Your love, my broken heart
Has been restored

Thank You, Jesus
You're the power and the glory
Thank You, Jesus
You're the never-ending story
Thank You, Jesus
You're my Savior
And all that I'm living for
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maxwel

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Well, this isn't a Muslim site. If you're going to come here and argue for the Quran, you'd expect to be banned.
He might have been banned for using profanity, as he used foul language multiple times on a Christian website.

The mods don't tell us why a person was banned... we can only speculate.

Although he claimed to be a Christian, he was using profanity while also defending the Koran.
I find it hard to believe he was a Christian... but I still have no way to know which specific thing got him banned.

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Rep. Rashida Tlaib Has Meltdown When Confronted by Fox News Reporter on ‘Death to America’ Chants at Rally in Her Dearborn, Michigan District (Video)
Actually she was elected by Muslims to further the agenda of "Death to America" herself. All she has done so far is show that she hates America but uses her position in Congress to poison people's minds. Muslims like her should not even have been allowed into government.

The Muslims in the USA are not here to become a part of the law-abiding general population but to wage Jihad against America. Migrant invasion is as much Jihad as terrorism. But the stupid American governments since 9/11 have not banned them from entry into the USA. Islam declared Jihad against America a long time ago, but the weak, ignorant, and stupid politicians simply ignored the threat. Now we can see the results of their foolishness. Mobs all over the USA chanting and marching for Hamas and the Palestinians and attacking and intimidating Jews. And then boldly shouting "Death to America" since they know they will not be immediately arrested and deported. If American did this in a Muslim country, they would simply be executed.
 

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Here we go again. Your information says you're a Christian. Why are you defending a false religion?

I’m not defending a false religion - but it seems OK to say what you want about Muslims and generalise that they are all terrorist - yet if you say Israel is committing a genocide or the TALMUD says Jesus is boiling in excrement in hell – I don’t see everyone calling them out as if they are too scared to say anything. Then you get called an antisemite. I work with a number of Muslims and they are very nice and humble people. As to scriptures we agree to disagree with a smile.

The Palestinians don’t want to eradicate the Jews, they want to live as before all Palestinians (Jews, Muslims, Christian Palestinians) living together in harmony as they did before the Zionists onslaught and many Jews want that as well.