Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

Within back to back posts you have completely contradicted yourself.

It's impossible to align if there's 2 different meanings...

Unbelievable!
Reformed at its finest...

Because what he said about Jacob/Esau "does not align" with what God instructed the Prophets to say about the matter.
And Scripture must "ALWAYS FLOW" in harmony.

You have no idea that God wants us to love our enemies? While you say He cannot love sinners? We were dead in our sins when Christ died for us. That fact is offered as proof of His love for us.[/QUOTE]

I don't say that God cannot love sinners. Scripture teaches that. Do you deny that teaching?

As far as us loving our enemies goes does not prove that God also loves his enemies. Your proposition presupposes that we mere mortals share God's divine prerogatives. We are commanded to love our enemies precisely because we don't have God's divine attributes as in knowing all hearts in the way He only can. This is why "love for our enemies" comes with divinely-ordained guidelines, e.g. Mat 7:6; Jas 4:4, etc.

P.S. We WERE dead in time and space which is why Paul says God loves us presently. But not in eternity.

No I have not. They align, i.e. are NON-CONTRADICTORY and, therefore, complement each other precisely because both passages are talking about Jacob and Esau from different perspectives. You clearly do not understand the Law of Noncontradiction.

What did God instruct the Prophets to say about the matter? I’m just trying to understand. Thanks.

The scripture wasn't complete yet. That admonition doesn't come until the end of Revelation.

No I have not. They align, i.e. are NON-CONTRADICTORY and, therefore, complement each other precisely because both passages are talking about Jacob and Esau from different perspectives. You clearly do not understand the Law of Noncontradiction.

1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.

2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say: 'Wherein hast Thou loved us?' Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD; yet I loved Jacob;

3 But Esau I hated, and made his mountains a desolation, and gave his heritage to the jackals of the wilderness.


...Nothing about hating Esau before he was born.
But clearly about Election.

I don't say that God cannot love sinners...

God cannot love sin or the sinner. And he can't love the latter because sinners' hearts are the wellspring of evil...

Okay; I see your point. To me, though, I consider the whole Word of God. Thanks.

1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.

2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say: 'Wherein hast Thou loved us?' Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD; yet I loved Jacob;

3 But Esau I hated, and made his mountains a desolation, and gave his heritage to the jackals of the wilderness.


...Nothing about hating Esau before he was born.
...But clearly about Election.

But the whole Word of God should never contradict when God tells a Prophet what to say and then what Paul writes. It should say the exact same thing. God Commanded to never ADD to His Written Established Word.

Also, we need to consider that Election happened before the foundation of the world, right?

But Paul was a chosen vessel—God chose him specifically to write most of the NT, right?

You so desperately need Paul or your doctrine is a sham. This is priceless.

By the time you get through eliminating the words of all the apostles, there will not be anything remaining in the Bible other than the old testament!

On the subject of Esau/Jacob it was already established by God.

Malachi is talking about Election and Election is a fact we already understand.

Sure. And God added further information through Paul.

I showed you when Paul tells us this is from God he specifically mentions it. Since there's no mention of it how do you know this was not just what Paul believes?