Predestination is misunderstood...

Then they should call themselves Bezans, and not be like Matt Slick and others who say they are Calvinists, but when shown that Calvin did not believe what they believe, say they don't follow Calvin, they just use Calvinism as a useful (?) abbreviation for their position. Using words dishonestly may be useful to make money, but it is not useful to one's audience, if one wants to be understood..

So either the Holy Spirit was already given to the disciples by the time Jesus died on the cross? Or the gift of the Holy Spirit to Jesus' disciples is not a part of God's redemption plan for creation?

The biblical doctrine of predestination grants joy to the true Christian that their salvation is secured by Him who is the Author and Finisher of their faith. It is only those who argue for their supposed free will and refuse to submit to God's sovereignty in all things and have not been humbled that hate this doctrine.

God's goodness is not just seen in His mercy but also in His perfectly, righteous and holy justice. If you can't see that then you do not yet understand the cross of Christ and how unworthy you are of His grace.

Lucifer was created with aeonous life. He led the worship of God. He lost aeonous life, a life in intimacy with God and the Son, when he rebelled against God.

actually the promise is for all and everyone is worthy of his grace

Everyone is fallen in a fallen state,

So what he does is give everyone a guardian angel as there growing up as a child

Is this not an act of grace for everyone

congratulations 😊

Romans 5:9-10 Much more then, being justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath the=rough Him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, MUCH MORE, being reconciled, WE SHALL BE SAVED BY HIS LIFE.

Clerly salvation was not completed by Jesus' atoning death. If we are saved by His life, MUCH MORE than by his death, salvation was not finished at the cross. Sins were paid for at the cross, the world's sins were paid for, so if that was all that was required for salvation, the whole world was saved, and no one is lost.

I do not condemn any person but only point to what Scripture says.

Gal 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

The question must therefore be asked according to Scripture, what is the Gospel? To simply say it is about Christ is not enough unless the person and work of Christ is defined according to Scripture and those who say that Christ came to simply make salvation possible by the choice of men is not biblical and therefore is a false gospel and does not save anyone.

Did God lie in the verse below or not?

Gen 2:17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die."

Remember, Adam lived to be 930 years old and God said in THAT DAY he shall surely die.

you are saying that grace is given to men for them to be able to cooperate with God and save themselves by their faith and in doing so have made faith a work in which one can boast and destroyed the concept of grace.

No, it means we can identify the reprobate by their evil deeds

I don't know which bible you read but mine does. As an elect Saint of God, it is my duty to correct false teachers and instruct confused students

God used Jeremiah to continually warn Israel to repent but He never pleaded with them to do so as if it is in the power of men to repent.

The Scriptures declare that man will only choose according to his evil nature and no one seeks after God. Those who choose God are only those whom God has chosen and even many of those who say they have chosen God are not saved as the parable of the sower declares and Christ in Matthew 7:21-23 declares.

Thank God for His awesome grace in choosing to save any who were originally His enemies.

Rom 5:10 For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

your confusion on the cause of salvation is further proof that you have not yet been humbled by God to understand that it is impossible for men to do anything to be saved in themselves including having a supposed free will which is in direct contradiction to Scripture.

If man was truly free he would be able to not sin and the death of all men is proof that man is a slave to sin and is not free. If you do not believe that then simply try to stop sinning!

Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin.

Rom 6:6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin.

Rom 6:17 But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered.

Rom 6:20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.

the problem is that no one is worthy of grace which is why it is called grace.

its called grace because it's God's good will not because it's un worthy

why do you tamper with what I have written?

If you can't see that then you do not yet understand the cross of Christ and how unworthy you are of His grace.

No God did not lie.

He said, "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day (a day with the LORD is as 1000 years and 1000 years as one day, 2 Pet. 3:8)) that you eat of it to die (MUTh: qal infinitive absolute) you shall be dying (ThaMUTh: qal incomplete/imperfect).

Adam ate and began dying, he became sick and in need of a Physician, but it took to His 930th year to completely die, which is 70 years within God's 1000 year long day.

The Bible warns us that in the last days in which we live there will be many false Christs-those who claim to be Christ but who are imposters. Jesus said, "Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying I am Christ; and shall deceive many." (Matt. 24:4-5). We who profess to be Christians must take heed. We must be very careful that we are not deceived. Our calling is to trust, love, and follow the true Christ and Him only. We may have nothing to do with the false Christs who are so numerous in our day.

We know about the Christ of the cults and other religions. He is a good man, a prophet, the first creation of God, a great spirit, a divine idea, or even a god himself. But he is not true and eternal God. He receives his existence from another who is greater than he. He is not the Christ of the Bible. We are not deceived by this Christ. He is a false Christ.

We know about the Christ of Roman Catholicism. They profess that He is true God. He suffered and died for the forgiveness of sin. He arose again, ascended into heaven, and is coming again. But he is not a complete Savior. The Christ of the Roman Catholics can not save sinners without their own good works and the intercession of priests. He is not the Christ of the Bible. We are not deceived by this Christ. He is a false Christ.

There is, however, another false Christ who is much more dangerous than the Christ of the cults and the Christ of Roman Catholicism. He has deceived people for many years and he continues to deceive millions. This Christ is so dangerous that, if it were not impossible, he would deceive the very elect (Matt. 24:24). He is the Christ of Arminianism.

This false Christ is extremely dangerous because in many ways he appears to be the True Christ. They say that he is true God, equal with the Father and the Holy Spirit. They say that he died on the cross to save sinners. They even say that he saves by his grace alone, without the work of man. This Christ will have nothing to do with the Christ of the cults and the Christ of Roman Catholicism.

But watch out! Be warned! The Christ of Arminianism is not the Christ of the Bible. Do not be fooled!

1. The Christ of Arminianism - loves every individual person in the world and sincerely desires their salvation.

The Christ of the Bible - earnestly loves and desires the salvation of only those whom God has unconditionally chosen to salvation. (Ps. 5:5, Ps. 7:11, Ps. 11:5, Matt. 11:27, John 17:9-10, Acts 2:47, Acts 13:48, Rom. 9:10-13, Rom. 9:21-24, Eph. 1:3-4)

2. The Christ of Arminianism - offers salvation to every sinner and does all in his power to bring them to salvation. His offer and work are often frustrated, for many refuse to come.

The Christ of the Bible - effectually calls to Himself only the elect and sovereignly brings them to salvation. Not one of them will be lost. (Isa. 55:11, John 5:21, John 6:37-40, John 10:25-30, John 17:2, Phil. 2:13)

3. The Christ of Arminianism - can not regenerate and save a sinner who does not first choose Christ with his own "free will." All men have a "free will" by which they can either accept or reject Christ. That "free will" may not be violated by Christ.

The Christ of the Bible - sovereignly regenerates the elect sinner apart from his choice, for without regeneration the spiritually dead sinner can not choose Christ. Faith is not man's contribution to salvation but the gift of Christ which He sovereignly imparts in regeneration. (John 3:3, John 6:44 & 65, John 15:16, Acts 11:18, Rom. 9:16, Eph. 2:1,Eph. 2:8-10, Phil. 1:29, Hebr. 12:2)

4. The Christ of Arminianism - died on the cross for every individual person and thereby made it possible for every person to be saved. His death, apart from the choice of man, was not able to actually save anyone for many for whom he died are lost.

The Christ of the Bible - died for only God's elect people and thereby actually obtained salvation for all those for whom He died. His death was a substitutionary satisfaction which actually took away the guilt of His chosen people. (Luke 19:10, John 10:14-15 & 26, Acts 20:28, Rom. 5:10, Eph. 5:25, Hebr. 9:12, I Peter 3:18)

5. The Christ of Arminianism - loses many whom he has "saved" because they do not continue in faith. Even if he does give them "eternal security," as some say, that security is not based upon his will or work but the choice which the sinner made when he accepted Christ.

The Christ of the Bible - preserves His chosen people so that they can not lose their salvation but persevere in the faith to the very end. He preserves them by the sovereign electing will of God, the power of His death, and the mighty working of His Spirit. (John 5:24, John 10:26-29, Rom. 8:29-30, Rom. 8:35-39, I Peter 1:2-5, Jude 24-25)

As you can see, although the Christ of Arminianism and the Christ of the Bible may at first seem to be the same, they are very different. One is a false Christ. The other is the true Christ. One is weak and helpless. He bows before the sovereign "free will" of man. The other is the reigning Lord Who wills what He pleases and sovereignly accomplishes all that He wills.

If you believe and serve the Christ of Arminianism, you must recognize the fact that you do not serve the Christ of the Bible. You have been deceived! Study the Scriptures and learn of the True Christ. Pray for grace to repent and trust Christ as your sovereign Savior.

The Christ of Arminianism (Freewillism)

You must therefore also assume that God created the world in six thousands years rather than six days and that man was still very good after the Fall (Gen 1:31) and therefore God must have unjustly killed all those people in the Flood which somehow were still very good according to you when instead God said they were only evil continually (Gen 6:5)?