Predestination is misunderstood...
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Again, more unbiblical man made philosophical gobbledygook.
You can't blame God for punishing sinners, I demand that He casts them into hell or I will abandon my faith.
All of this twisting and turning and contradicting, leaves my head spinning. Why don't you just let your yes be yes and your no be no, everything apart from these is of the Devil.
God doesn't torment anyone in hell for Adams sin, He does it because they sinned against Him
You can't blame God for punishing sinners, I demand that He casts them into hell or I will abandon my faith.
All of this twisting and turning and contradicting, leaves my head spinning. Why don't you just let your yes be yes and your no be no, everything apart from these is of the Devil.
God doesn't torment anyone in hell for Adams sin, He does it because they sinned against Him
Roman 12:3
For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you,
not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think,
but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith.
sorry Charlie
For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you,
not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think,
but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith.
sorry Charlie
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If you would only listen, you would find out....
Chosen "in Him."
Eve was "in Adam" before her body was made manifest.
Likewise...
Only those whom God predestined to be born to believe during the Church age
has our body now residing "in Him."
To be revealed in glory in the Resurrection of the Church!
Right now? The real you and me is hidden IN HIM!
In Him, being seated with Him in the heavenlies!
You need to stop thinking in human viewpoint to get this straight according to God's Word.
The guy in the shop with you will not get what I will tell you unless the Spirit opens his eyes of his heart to see it.
Here it is....
That is why we are the Bride of Christ!
Eve's body was hidden in Adam's body, later to be revealed by the Lord as the bride of Adam!
Eve was... "bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh!"
In the Resurrection what will happen?
Our own Everlasting body shall be to the the Lord's as Eve's body was to Adam!
Its a hidden mystery that is out in the open!
........ Now for something else.
In the ancient world of Rome, when a son was adopted? The one adopted as a son in the ancient world wood inherit the family privileges of the one who adopted him.
That is why we are are co-heirs with Christ!
For all that is is His? Is ours too!
We must first be resurrected to see all that will be.
We will find out what that means after we are Resurrected!
.... And, some of you here want to argue every day that if we believe, we are doing something to be saved?
There is so much more to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
grace and peace .......
Chosen "in Him."
Eve was "in Adam" before her body was made manifest.
Likewise...
Only those whom God predestined to be born to believe during the Church age
has our body now residing "in Him."
To be revealed in glory in the Resurrection of the Church!
Right now? The real you and me is hidden IN HIM!
In Him, being seated with Him in the heavenlies!
You need to stop thinking in human viewpoint to get this straight according to God's Word.
The guy in the shop with you will not get what I will tell you unless the Spirit opens his eyes of his heart to see it.
Here it is....
Ephesians 2:6-7
And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,
in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed
in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus."
Where He is now seated? We are also with Him- In Him!
The real you and me is hidden in His glorious body RIGHT NOW!
But for Adam no suitable helper was found. So the Lord God caused the man
to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s
ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman
from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for she was taken out of man. Genesis 2:20-23
That is why we are the Bride of Christ!
Eve's body was hidden in Adam's body, later to be revealed by the Lord as the bride of Adam!
Eve was... "bone of his bones and flesh of his flesh!"
In the Resurrection what will happen?
Our own Everlasting body shall be to the the Lord's as Eve's body was to Adam!
Its a hidden mystery that is out in the open!
........ Now for something else.
In the ancient world of Rome, when a son was adopted? The one adopted as a son in the ancient world wood inherit the family privileges of the one who adopted him.
That is why we are are co-heirs with Christ!
For all that is is His? Is ours too!
We must first be resurrected to see all that will be.
We will find out what that means after we are Resurrected!
.... And, some of you here want to argue every day that if we believe, we are doing something to be saved?There is so much more to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
grace and peace .......
Jesus was speaking of a specific kind of fake believer. Those like Kenneth Hagin and Kenneth Copeland.
Jesus gave specific things to look for...
False teachers will manifest Satanic power in Jesus name to impress the stupid with things they can see and touch....
And, then teach false doctrines that the followers will eat up in charged emotional state!
We have such teachers among the churches today.....
Jesus gave specific things to look out for!
Those things!
grace and peace .....................
Jesus gave specific things to look for...
Matthew 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me,
‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do
many mighty works in your name?’
And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
False teachers will manifest Satanic power in Jesus name to impress the stupid with things they can see and touch....
And, then teach false doctrines that the followers will eat up in charged emotional state!
We have such teachers among the churches today.....
Jesus gave specific things to look out for!
‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name,
and cast out demons in your name, and do
many mighty works in your name?’
Those things!
grace and peace .....................
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.... And, some of you here want to argue every day that if we believe, we are doing something to be saved?There is so much more to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
grace and peace .......
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Not one Calvinist has ever been able to explain Jonah.
1. God told Jonah to preach a message of destruction, “yet forty days and Nineveh will be overthrown.”
2. Nineveh believed the message and repented.
3. God saw their repentance and he repented of the destruction that he said he would do unto them and he did it not.
1. God told Jonah to preach a message of destruction, “yet forty days and Nineveh will be overthrown.”
2. Nineveh believed the message and repented.
3. God saw their repentance and he repented of the destruction that he said he would do unto them and he did it not.
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there's two more things the Bible says that you don't believe. Jesus daid, "I will be with you always to the end of the age". And Jesus said, nothing is impossible with God."
You say Jesus isn't here, and He can't appear to people, even if he wants to. calvinists don't believe the Bible. They believe in TULIP and refuse to see anything in the Bible that speaks against TULIP. or whatever other nonsense they come up with.
You say Jesus isn't here, and He can't appear to people, even if he wants to. calvinists don't believe the Bible. They believe in TULIP and refuse to see anything in the Bible that speaks against TULIP. or whatever other nonsense they come up with.
I believe the sun will rise tomorrow. How powerful must I be to make that happen!
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