What can you do if you’re a non-elect?

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Burn1986

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According to Calvinism, what happens if you’re a non-elect and will end up in Hell?

What if you give birth to a non-elect or marry a non-elect?

Should non-elects be put to death?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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According to Calvinism, what happens if you’re a non-elect and will end up in Hell?

What if you give birth to a non-elect or marry a non-elect?

Should non-elects be put to death?

Waiting to see what answers come with these questions.
 

Artios1

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If your a non-elect ...become a born again elect.... by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior.

It's not a selection process with God.... it's an acceptance program for anyone who wishes to believe.
 

selahsays

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According to Calvinism, what happens if you’re a non-elect and will end up in Hell?

What if you give birth to a non-elect or marry a non-elect?

Should non-elects be put to death?
Sincerely… You really have not been taught properly, and it’s the reason that you don’t understand. First of all, don’t study Calvinism; study the Bible. Dig out the truth on your own. Ask God to help you; He will.
 

Lynx

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Isn't this a rerun? I keep seeing notifications about a very similar thread in another subsection of this forum.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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If your a non-elect ...become a born again elect.... by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior.

It's not a selection process with God.... it's an acceptance program for anyone who wishes to believe.
Agreed, but Calvinism doesn't teach that.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Isn't this a rerun? I keep seeing notifications about a very similar thread in another subsection of this forum.
It is but I think it's because some of us still can't swallow the pill called Calvinism. It seems most of its adherents don't actually know what Calvin taught.
 

Burn1986

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It is but I think it's because some of us still can't swallow the pill called Calvinism. It seems most of its adherents don't actually know what Calvin taught.
Well, does Calvinism talk about giving up your life for your friends, praying for the salvation and success of your relatives and co-workers, and fasting for a deeper relationship with God?
 

Burn1986

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If your a non-elect ...become a born again elect.... by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior.

It's not a selection process with God.... it's an acceptance program for anyone who wishes to believe.
Is there a Calvinist book that this is quoted in? I’m directing this at the goofballs that are totally hung up on elect, non-elect, and predestination. They call everyone else non-elect and assume they are elect. I’m sure they can predict when Jesus us coming back too :rolleyes:
 

BeeBlessed

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Wouldn’t it be great if we all dropped the -isms and -ists, and just studied what the Bible has to say?
 

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There are two parts here. What God does, and what He has commanded us to do. When we try to do God's part is when we get into trouble. The Bible is very clear what our part is, and that's what we need to concentrate on. God is fully capable of handling His part.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Well, does Calvinism talk about giving up your life for your friends, praying for the salvation and success of your relatives and co-workers, and fasting for a deeper relationship with God?
I guess I would let a Calvinist answer that.
 

Eli1

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Okay, let's do this. :LOL: As a few others have said, this topic never gets talked about here.

How many flavors of Calvinism are out there anyway? Because when i look at the Tulip doctrine here : TULIP - Calvinism Explained in Five Simple Points (learnreligions.com) what i see there is that humanity is a bunch of puppets according to this doctrine.
What we do, or don't do, doesn't really matter because we're just puppets. We can watch TV, do drugs, rob the neighbor instead of loving the neighbor or do just about anything really.
This is very similar to Nihilism where nothing really matters.

Explain it to me please. :)
 

Cameron143

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Well, does Calvinism talk about giving up your life for your friends, praying for the salvation and success of your relatives and co-workers, and fasting for a deeper relationship with God?
Why wouldn't they?
 

MrScottxX

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The question was posed: What can you do if you’re a non-elect?

Humble yourself and become part of the Elect Family.

Luke 13:3-2
Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? 3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.

John 3:16-17
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that through him the world might be saved.

Matthew 23:37
“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!

John 3:3
Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

1 Timothy 2:1-6
1Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, 2 for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time

1 John 2:1-2
1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

Ezekiel 18:23
Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
 

Adstar

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According to Calvinism, what happens if you’re a non-elect and will end up in Hell?

What if you give birth to a non-elect or marry a non-elect?

Should non-elects be put to death?
Calvinisn is wrong..

The Elect are foreknown by God.. They are the Elect because God knows they will respond positivly to the Gospel message that will save the, God has known them since the very begginging of creation.. If one is not part of the elect it will be because God foreknows that they will reject the Gospel because they will have love for some kind of unrightiousness..

So yes the Non-elect will end up in the eternal Lake of Fire.. But it is not because God has made them unable to accept the Message that saves.. And yes the Elect will all be saved not because God has forced them to believe the message..
 

Lynx

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Calvinisn is wrong..

The Elect are foreknown by God.. They are the Elect because God knows they will respond positivly to the Gospel message that will save the, God has known them since the very begginging of creation.. If one is not part of the elect it will be because God foreknows that they will reject the Gospel because they will have love for some kind of unrightiousness..

So yes the Non-elect will end up in the eternal Lake of Fire.. But it is not because God has made them unable to accept the Message that saves.. And yes the Elect will all be saved not because God has forced them to believe the message..
Sounds like a religious spin on Ayn Rand.

Wait... Ayn came after Calvin...

Maybe Ayn Rand mixed Calvinism and evolution.
 

Nehemiah6

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According to Calvinism, what happens if you’re a non-elect and will end up in Hell? What if you give birth to a non-elect or marry a non-elect? Should non-elects be put to death?
Just ignore all this nonsense. If you have heard the Gospel, repented and believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, and receive Him as you Lord and Savior, then you are justified by grace through faith. And anyone and everyone can respond to and obey the Gospel. "Whosoever" means whosoever.