Who is God & What is the Gospel ?

Imagine life and love eternal ....but it's just you no one to share life with or to love or be loved by

Maxwell, please believe me when i say, i have no desire to offend or insult, even though i can be prone to do so. i earnestly desire to be on one mind, in the Lord, with someone, anyone, yet find it hard to realize. i hope we can move toward that end.
that being said, i would hope that you will agree that "ignorance is not a solid defence of a position of truth", right? we cannot aspire to confidence in the fact that we don't know. not knowing shouldn't be a warm blanket of comfort. it should be a motivation to seek further, right ? "that I might know Thee, the only true God and Jesus Christ whom Thou has sent" and "that we might grow in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ." I , personally cannot find solitude in ignorance, it only inspires me to seek Him further. I want to know Him more and more and that can happen through personally seeking Him, but also through other's in the body of Christ, like yourself. right ?

Well, God has always existed in trinity, as 3 persons... with a perfect relationship of love and communion between them.

This is a big topic, with a lot to think about.

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I agree, but currently i was trying to entertain a discussion about what does it mean that God is love?

EXACTLY! isn't this "Who God Is?" you said it perfectly, imagine being perfectly content, satisfied, filled, BUT no one to share it with. that truly would be sad. and that is why i believe HE create all of this and us.

Yeah I don't wanna get Into that debate again for sure lol

But let me say that if a person believes God is one....the whole reason he created life and man is to have people to love and love him. That's all I was saying. Father with a heart of love really needs some kids to love on

God is love means that in His essence God is agape love. Which is God's love. That includes grace, mercy, loving kindness, compassion. All of this is infinite, and in the end we cannot really understand it. But John 3:16 sums it up, and to gain an insight into this aspect of God, one needs to go to the Psalms which describe God.

PilgrimsHope, my longing has been now satisfied this one time, by your comment. I hope i can similarly say in agreement with you that Love "NEEDS" and object, God "NEEDED" an object to love. perfect harmony between three persons of the Godhead for eternity past would never initiate the creation of anything, UNLESS Love is not selfish, it wants to bless others(and if they don't yet exist, He creates them) with the perfect communion and harmony the Godhead has had for eternity past. thx for your words. it seems in this we agree and i hope finally i have found someone that can understand and agree with what i believe the Lord has been teaching me for these many years. and as long as i am not deceived, i will enjoy this moment. i know of no one in the past 25 years that can comprehend what i'm saying. let alone agree(if you are). it's a real bummer to be alone.

......I thought you were wanting to keep everyone on topic of what magenta said ?

In the beginning Gods son was Adam

‭Luke 3:38 KJV‬
[38] which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

My point was simple God created man because of he desire to have children created in his image and likeness love needs people to love

Sorry, i thought we were still discussing the concept of "God is Love" and recently as it pertains to the idea of what is love....it all seems on topic to me, redirect us ?

That's what I believe yes . If we look to the gospel it's all about the son teaching us that God is our father and he loves us and doesn't want us to follow sin and perish but to live forever with him in his home eternal to love and be loved by him but in reverse order that's what I think it means that God is love Jesus taught us to look at God as he is our loving father our provider the one we can depend on and trust in we can believe him he'll never lead us astray ....I believe that's why he created mankind because Love is not really Love if you don't have people to love and to love you also . I think people miss the fact that God in the bible is desperately wanting to be loved by us too not just tell us I love you but he wants us to love him that's what Jesus suffering and death is all about to show us the depths of this love for us , in hopes we will see him and reach out and return to him

Um no not really I'd rather just have everyone speak freely and see where the conversation goes because I'm not sure what direction your wanting to go lol do you want to discuss the trinity concept ?

What time zone are you, it's past midnight here, lol

I'm on pacific time but just whenever you wish to talk about anything Is fine friend

I'm on pacific time but just whenever you wish to talk about anything Is fine friend

Yes, but I left it open to begin and Magenta was the first to respond with "God is love." So I asked previously...\
Well, let's start with what Magenta has replied, "God is Love." I would then add to that 1Jhn reference, 1Co13, "love seeks not it's own" and ask the question, "Does God ever do anything SOLELY for Himself?" Or "does He ALWAYS do everything for the benefit of others?" Let's begin with that.

Does anyone have an answer ? or comment ?

Yes, but I left it open to begin and Magenta was the first to respond with "God is love." So I asked previously...\
Well, let's start with what Magenta has replied, "God is Love." I would then add to that 1Jhn reference, 1Co13, "love seeks not it's own" and ask the question, "Does God ever do anything SOLELY for Himself?" Or "does He ALWAYS do everything for the benefit of others?" Let's begin with that.

Does anyone have an answer ? or comment ?

Yes, but I left it open to begin and Magenta was the first to respond with "God is love." So I asked previously...\
Well, let's start with what Magenta has replied, "God is Love." I would then add to that 1Jhn reference, 1Co13, "love seeks not it's own" and ask the question, "Does God ever do anything SOLELY for Himself?" Or "does He ALWAYS do everything for the benefit of others?" Let's begin with that.

Does anyone have an answer ? or comment ?

Scripture refers to 3 as God All of these are God and each of these are God:


The Father is God

2Pe_1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

The Son is God

Psa 78:35 And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.

1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Jesus is God because the OT says Israel's Rock was God and Christ was that same Rock.


Holy Spirit is God

Act 5:1 But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
Act 5:2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
Act 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Here lying to the Holy Spirit is called lying to God.





Mat 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

This is the first appearance of the word in the bible. The word is:

G2098
εὐαγγέλιον
euaggelion
yoo-ang-ghel'-ee-on
From the same as G2097; a good message, that is, the gospel: - gospel.
Total KJV occurrences: 77

It is written as the gospel of the Kingdom, the gospel of God, the gospel of Jesus, the gospel of peace etc. It is good news about something, usually related to righteousness and the future for righteous people. In short, it is usually about how Jesus died for our sins so we can repent and be forgiven and be granted immortality in the eternal kingdom of God ie: being saved.

Do you have children friend ? God is a Father . Why does a father do things ? Who is the apple of his eye ? The ones in his mind and heart ?

If God is perfect, and perfectly content, why did he create?

1.) The Bible clearly says God does everything according to his own will, and his own pleasure.
2.) The Bible is also clear that God is perfect, complete, and in need of nothing.

So why did God create everything?
Posing this very real conundrum is reasonable, but ignoring the two prior propositions that lead us to this conundrum is not reasonable.

All we know for certain is: it was God's will to create, it pleased him to do so, and all creation had to be in his mind (part of his eternal plan) from eternity past. But he certainly doesn't "need" us.


This has been orthodox Christian doctrine for a very long time... nothing new here.



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I would just say, Nehemiah, that i believe 'we can't say that others cannot understand something',