How do you get saved?

You're clueless because my only comment was that your argument had reached "Godwin's Law" and it didn't take long for you to get there.

Obedience to water baptism in the name of Jesus results in remission of one's sin in accordance with the word, and has nothing to do with self-righteousness. Self-righteousness is attempting to adhere to the law in order to be accepted. Water baptism has nothing to do with the law. It is a commandment for all those living in the NT, and is an essential element of the NT rebirth. Jesus revealed this multiple times. Submission to the command is an act of faith. To refuse to believe and obey the command is to reject the very counsel of God.

Hitler wasn't the only water baptised murderer.There have been many murderers Baptised in water in Jesus name.

As I said Lenjn and Stalin as well.

No it does not

You are baptised because you recieved remission of sin. Not in order to get it

You recieved remission of sin when God baptized you literally into his death.

The law required perfection.. You better be perfect. Because thats what you are preaching.. You can;t water down the law and say only these works save you but these do not.

its an all or nothing situation

You have either works, or you have grace.. you can;t have it both ways

If your doing it in order to give this work to God and declair he saved you based on this work. Thats exactly what it is.



There never is a reason to continue, I just respond so others can see the folly in your works based gospel..

I gave up hope you would repent along time ago.. Although I do pray, and I know there is always hope

Water baptism is a symbol for what you did. That way if the devil comes back and tries to make you doubt)and he will for a little while) then you can say to him “No. I remember because I was baptized.” He’ll stop making you doubt after awhile.

Hitler wasn't the only water baptised murderer.There have been many murderers Baptised in water in Jesus name.

As I said Lenjn and Stalin as well.

Yah, for the upteenth time..

Acts 2:28.. being baptised 'for' the remission of sins. As others have already posted numerous times..

This is being baptised.. not to get remission of sins.. but like being given medication 'for' the flu, it is because you already have it!

Don't know how many times this has gotta be said.

And for Mark 16:16--

First thing is this verse doesn't stand alone. So compare it with numerous verses about salvation that have no water baptism.
Second thing is-- as has been said upteen times before-- the opposite of Mark 16:16 is NOT true.

So.. 'if you are not water baptised after belief.. you are not saved.'...... This line is not true. The other part of Mark 16:16 is if you don't BELIEVE you are condemned. Not if you don't get water baptised.. you are condemned.

I can't remember the name for this kind of false argument people bring to bible passages.. of making the opposite of the same scripture true.

But the main issue, is where is the focus? On Jesus and His payment for your sin, or on getting wet?

If you mean faith alone (which would conflict with e.g. Acts 3:19 and Mark 11:26 btw)
Ananias is clearly accusing Paul of having

Acts 22:16
And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized, and wash your sins away, calling on His name.’

Which should have already been remitted if one is baptized because their sins were already forgiven

Then are any of these done in order to be saved

Matthew 6:15

But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive yours.

Acts 3:19
Repent, then, and turn back, so that your sins may be wiped away,

Acts 2:21
And it shall be that everyone who shall call upon the name of the Lord will be saved.'

Well, does anyone see the reality of the resurrection? I see this, I could not see it, until I finalized by God in through Son I am reconciled at his one time willing sacrificial death, that took away sin from Father's sight for us to now enter into his courts freely and ask for the new life in thankfulness over Son doing what is now done at that cross to cross over in new life in the resurrected Christ. we are now by God through Son, Jesus 100% forgiven by his done work for us on that cross. (John 19:30)
How can I or anyone else ever see the reality of the risen Son, without seeing the finality of the cross being reconciled from God through Son first? (2 Corinthians 5:17-20)


2 Peter 1:6-9

King James Version

6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

Without the reality it is done b y Son, we are forgiven, even if one continues in sin. Once one finalizes this truth in Son for us, I bet you stop the sin, you are trying to not do again, that has got you in bondage over doing it again and again is an error in our new born, being from God new people we are by God for us through Son to us all, y'all
Time to finalize this truth between God and you too, and then see new and grow up in this truth into maturity over it. It is in truth between God and you, not me and you or anyone else and you.
Thank you


What about Acts 10,11, where Peter was led to go to the Gentile house and preach the word of God to them?
Where they got saved by God through Peter, without water Baptism? Peter did say afterwards to them. well, now who can refuse water Baptism? Yet saw it not necessary to get saved by water baptism.
Then in Acts 10, he tells the other disciples about this happening without any rituals, just beleif, as he saw them get saved by belief only
Wow, woe is me y'all

Well paul certainly did not contradict himself. When he claimed we are saved by Grace not of works..


Your sin is washed by the blood of Christ, when you are baptised into his death by God himself (romans 6)


lets put it this way, if you want to merit salvation God gave you the standard. You must obey every word and not break one command.

If you have not done this, your ability to merit salvation is gone and done with.

You must rely on Gods grace.
now you can be like the Pharisees and claim you are saving yourself by your works, or you can be like paul and consider all yoru work dung, and place your faith in christ.

I pray you chose wisely

Do people who keep the law of water baptism also try to keep all of Moses laws or is it just this one?

Notice what Peter told Cornelius and the others in Acts 10:43: "To him (Jesus) give all the prophets witness, that THROUGH HIS NAME whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins." Now consider the connection the Bible reveals concerning the name of Jesus and remission of sin. "... be baptized everyone of you in the NAME OF JESUS for REMISSION OF SIN... (Acts 2:38, Luke 24:47) The entire account makes it clear that along with being indwelt by the Holy Ghost the group had to obey the command of water baptism in the name of Jesus in order for their sins to be remitted. (Acts 10:43-48)

This same truth is revealed time and again in scripture. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 9:17-18, 10:43-48, 19:1-7, 22:16) The experiences recorded, parallel what Jesus said; UNLESS a man is born of water and of Spirit he CANNOT enter the kingdom of Heaven. Clearly believers in Jesus experience the NT rebirth after being indwelt with the Holy Ghost and having their sins remitted upon obedience to water baptism in His name.

Acts 8 presumably implies many cases of people who not only did not receive the Holy Spirit immediately in response to their baptisms, but to their belief as well

Because these things, outlined in Hebrews 6:1-2, are responded to by God cohesively, and are not individually sufficient, with only one biblical exception (perhaps)

Consider how many people are implied by "Samaria" here

Acts 8
12But when they believed Philip as he preached the gospel of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. 13Even Simon himself believed and was baptized. He followed Philip closely and was astounded by the great signs and miracles he observed.

14When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them. 15On their arrival, they prayed for them to receive the Holy Spirit. 16For the Holy Spirit had not yet fallen upon any of them; they had simply been baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus. 17Then Peter and John laid their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

18When Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money. 19“Give me this power as well,” he said, “so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”

Did these people receive the Holy Spirit the moment they believed?

Water baptism is not part of the law. The command to be baptized in the name of Jesus for remission of sin was begun in the NT. Those who obey the command are in fact placing their trust in Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. And in fact are buried with Him wherein their sins are destroyed. Paul explains this in Romans 6:3-6

I'm not taking about Hitler's baptism. That's not what Godwin's Law is about. Perhaps you should go look it up.

so, sorry you and I disagree, therefore I see from your view to disagree With you.
If you are not good with this deep truth of there is only one Baptism and it is not water anymore as was through John the Baptist, to announce to the first Chosen their Messiah has arrived. That they chose to not beleive then. Therefore the Gospel came over to the Gentile, without Law. Leaving the rituals as must do's to be in with Father and Son. Now by free choice, to do them as a good conscience to God between God and you, personally. Do not do your good deeds in public for man to see. Rather go into your closet and close the door, and God, who knows all secrets will openly reward you
Do not sit in Moses's seat for rewards from the people
Hoping you begin to grow up in your understanding, not that I have it better than you or others, you go on forward. Your salvation is not between me and you or anyone else either. It is between God and you. You are in God's favor, to be saved by God, not anyone else, thank you
Believe, receive and see, which can take a while to work this out in fear and trembling over under Law and upholding Law
Thanks a blessed life to you

Water baptism has been performed since Moses and is part of the law.Jews still water Baptise today .

Again.,water is not Jesus name Anyone can say the name Jesus while taking the ritual bath and they still are not Baptised into Christ because they have not been Baptised in the holy spirit.

Water is carnal and is of this world.The holy spirit is not and it is holy spirit baptism that is in Jesus name.


John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


Worldly water does not come in Jesus name.The Holy Ghost does.

According to the word of God having one's sins remitted/washed away is an essential element of the NT rebirth:

"And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.

And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.

For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Acts 22:12-16

You oppose what is clearly stated in the word of God. And people need to hear the truth; obedience to the command of water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is for remission of one's sin.

Why tarriest thou, arise and be baptized and wash away thy sin calling upon the name of the Lord. (Acts 22:16) Ananias did not say: because your sins have already been washed away.