Question y'all

Interesting, the view you present in the correlating of water and blood. You right in one has to be born again by God or one is not in, thanks

Except the Bible doesn't say "Since the fall, man has lost the ability To do good! His thoughts are evil only!"

We all have sinned and if it wasn't for Gods grace and mercy we would die instantly. But because of God's great love we can be forgiven and born again.

Reading Acts 5 at the end of Acts 5, about the disciples being told not to preach the risen Son.

29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. 30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree. 31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
33 When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them.
34 Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space; 35 and said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men. 36 For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought. 37 After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.
38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: 39 but if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it;

To this day, God in Son as risen has not gotten overthrown has it?
Amazing grace given to abide in thanksgiving and praise, even though I do not ever deserve to have ever been given it, nor anyone else either, imop

At least they had sense to say leave them alone for if it is not of God it will come of nought which they will not proceed with what they are putting forth, and they did not want to go against them for if it is of God they cannot be over thrown and it seems like they thought we do not want to go against God.

Which means they did not want to take the chance of going against them for they might be of God for then they would be going against God, and let it play out and see if they prosper or not.

Joh 7:32 The Pharisees heard that the people murmured such things concerning him; and the Pharisees and the chief priests sent officers to take him.

Joh 7:45 Then came the officers to the chief priests and Pharisees; and they said unto them, Why have ye not brought him?
Joh 7:46 The officers answered, Never man spake like this man.

It reminds me of this where Jesus spoke so boldly to the officers that it cast doubt in to their mind, and they thought we better leave this man alone for if he is speaking the truth we do not want to be going against God.

And that is how the Bible is to the world that they are afraid of it so they say leave it alone for if it is true we do not want to go against God.

Forgot to mention that Eve is the mother of all living.Both those born of the flesh,and those born of the spirit.When you look at our dna you see an Ark of the covenant.50% of our father and 50% from our mother.On the sides are the cherubim and in the middle is the mercy seat.The base pairs connecting our dna are 10 base pairs per one full roataion.Within one full rotation there's a twist, so one rotation will look like a figure 8.
With your spiritual eyes you'll see two stone tablets and 5 commandments on each totaling 10.There's really 10 and a half for the final commandment that Jesus gave and that's to love one another.It connects to the next tablets and makes up our whole bring and gives us life.That means that the answer to life is love.
You have the Spirit of the Lord on the mercy seat.The Living God.His name is the Word of God.

Look closely at our dna.He's lifting up the brazen serpent.The Living Word was the staff of Moses that held up the brazen serpent.The staff is the base pairs.He is the 'branch'. and the snake on the pole is us when we were in the world.Through hearing, and believing on Jesus we are lifted up.A true believer's dna is changed.On earth as it is in heaven for everything I'm saying.When you are a new creature your dna isn't the same as it was before.

The scripture will testify to this.Read Colossians 1:16-20.All things are made through him and he reconciles all things unto himself.By the spirit,water and the blood all things were made.He reconciles all things unto himself through the spirit,water and the blood.
Whatever it be things that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him.
For the people who believe Jesus isn't God in the flesh how is it that all things consist through Jesus including the kingdom of heaven in heaven?!
He makes a way for us right down to the molecule.He does the same for a blade of grass,a rock,any living thing.Every unseen thing,by the spirit,water,and the blood.All things are made in his image.Not just man.Everywhere you look you will 'see' Jesus.

You are correct. I winged it and misquoted what the Bible actually states. MY BAD!

Gen 6:5 The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. (ESV)

The verse speaks of man's thoughts, not his ability. However, I believe that man's actions are based on his thoughts which come from the heart. Therefore, his ability to please God is lacking. Even if he somehow did a good deed, it would be done for the wrong reason.
Your thoughts direct you actions!

Not first born dead to God, God made the first Adam. Adam ate from the tree, God said to not eat from, if did, Adam would die. Adam ate from that tree in Unbelief to God. Death came to all flesh
The Second Adam, Jesus the Christ, reversed the first curse, by belief to God his Father for us to be given this born new life, in his resurrection is what I see now. The full Gospel is much more than just getting forgiven

The above was stated after the first Adam failed, all that are born after his fall are first born as dead to God in their flesh nature, and each person sees this in growing up and some decide to believe God and others not. Then the Judgment, God decides
Thanks

First birth in flesh and blood of man and woman having sex?
Are we born alive to God in that first birth? or just after the similitude of the first Adam?

First birth in flesh and blood of man and woman having sex?
Are we born alive to God in that first birth? or just after the similitude of the first Adam?

Physical death came to all men. A day with the Lord is as a thousand years. It is a biblically justifiable interpretation of God's warning that He considered He was saying that Adam would begin to die and would eventually die by eating the fruit. The Hebrew says "To die you will be dying". That sounds to me like "to reach a sure death you will start degenerating, if you eat of the fruit." It was predicting the genesis of disease/s that would eventually kill.

Don't you see tat as a possible meaning if the original Hebrew? If not, why not?

Youve certainly got something going on that you’re trying to connect. It sounds like you may need to seek God for deeper revelation. Fasting perhaps.

Should this be in “Miscellaneous”?

I don't know, God does though, you put it wherever you see to do that, having free choice as well.
Me seeing this truth, God has fee choice too

Not worried over those that can only destroy, flesh, mine is already destroyed, I reverently fear God who can destroy both Soul and body, The only one that can do both. So I choose, (Not out of fear) out of respect of

Living Bible



82 God stands up to open heaven’s court. He pronounces judgment on the judges.[a] 2 How long will you judges refuse to listen to the evidence? How long will you shower special favors on the wicked? 3 Give fair judgment to the poor man, the afflicted, the fatherless, the destitute.4 Rescue the poor and helpless from the grasp of evil men.5 But you are so foolish and so ignorant! Because you are in darkness, all the foundations of society[b] are shaken to the core. 6 I have called you all “gods” and “sons of the Most High.” 7 But in death you are mere men. You will fall as any prince—for all must die.

To be alive forever, So die to self daily to be alive in God's Spirit and Truth, thank you

First birth in flesh and blood of man and woman having sex?
Are we born alive to God in that first birth? or just after the similitude of the first Adam?

We are born body and soul only, dead in our sin which, is why we must be born of the Spirit. The Spirit generates a human spirit when we believe on the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. This is our salvation from death. We are made spiritually alive and have passed from death to life.

Our parents can only generate flesh and only God can create the soul (which is the invisible essence of who we are). Our spirit is what enables us to comprehend spiritual matters.

John 3:6
Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.

That people's thoughts and imaginations were only evil continually does not mean the same as that people's thoughts and imaginations were only evil continuously. Nor should it be taken in a woodenly literal way, because obviously Noah's thoughts and imaginations were not continuously or continually evil. It is clearly a figure of speech, hyperbole, to express God's overwhelming sense fo disappointment as He observed what mankind had become. So, it is unwarranted to deduce from the verse that there was no good being thought or imagined by anyone at any time from the time of Adam's fall to the time of Noah's flood... and then until Jesus gave the Holy Spirit.

I will agree that fallen man is not as bad as he could be. Thank God that we are somewhat constrained! However, I do not believe that our actions and thoughts are pleasing to God until we have been changed by the Spirit. After being changed, we have a new desire to please God - although we are still not perfected. We must always remember that “What we are intended to be, we have not yet become”.

Your reply, if I am reading it correctly, implies that the Spirit was not present with man until the New Covenant. However, the Old Testament has a rich record of the work of the Spirit, but He was not poured out on all flesh under the Old Covenant. Instead, certain men were filled with the Spirit at certain times and only for certain duties. It was rather selective: Joseph was filled with the Spirit of God. Even Pharaoh recognized this! (Genesis 41:38). Pharaoh said to his servants, “Can we find a man like this, in whom is the Spirit of God?”