Does God continue to love us all, has God continued from day one of the fall of Adam?

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homwardbound

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blueluna5 said:
Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12 not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
romans 9:13

Don’t behave like Cain, who belonged to the evil one and murdered his brother 1 John 3:12

Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys. 1 Samuel 15

Jesus said... to the Pharisees (people)
“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation. Matthew 23:33

God specifically says he doesn't love everyone, even hates some. He hates them before they were even born.

This is not to make anyone feel bad about themselves or say God doesn't love a specific person. Imagine if you asked your spouse "do you love me?" And he said "yes, I love all women the same." That is not actually love. That's some socialism idea we were brainwashed into believing is Christianity.
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God sees Evil, God hates Evil, not the people. God has offered everyone through his Son Jesus new life.
But that new life is not in his willing death. The new life is in his risen Life

God Wass good to Esau. Esau said this to Jacob, that God has been good to him. Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it cannot be out back
Esau, sold his birth right. Cane killed Abel after warned, that Evil (sin) is at his door.
All good and bad decisions I have ever made, is like tooth paste, once it is out, it is out.
What is done is done. Therefore as Christ said it in John 19:30 "It is Finished"
He at that cross took away sin from punishment. Separated Sin and death, once for everyone that is done at the cross. To be crossed over with the risen Son
One choice left, to believe God, receive from God, and be new in God, all by being willing to God.

God hates Evil not the people, Thanks, hope to have that cleared up

As a person chooses, that is what that person is
When Emotions lead a person, they are headed for a train wreck
The Caboose on a train is like being Emotions. The Caboose does not lead the train or does it?

Truth, God loves us all period. Otherwise he would not, have gone to that cross willingly without asking anyone

Hebrews 10:10

Authorized (King James) Version

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Beleive, receive and get learning new and be justified by God, not others, thanks
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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blueluna5 said:
Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12 not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
romans 9:13
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So take a black marker and eliminate the Scripture I posted. That's all lies, is that what you're saying? Just rip those out and throw them away. BTW why do I have to love my enemies but God get's to hate people, for no reason at all? And if God hates your baby, why wouldn't you abort them? Why keep a baby God hates?

blueluna5 said:
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys. 1 Samuel 15
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What, God hated more people?! Even the animals?!!


blueluna5 said:
Jesus said... to the Pharisees (people)
“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation. Matthew 23:33

God specifically says he doesn't love everyone, even hates some. He hates them before they were even born.
blueluna5 said:
So why are half of you over in the other thread screaming about the poor Palestinians?! Looks a lot to me like God hates them. Why are you so upset over dead children? God ordained it to happen that way. He just hates people, what can you do?


blueluna5 said:
This is not to make anyone feel bad about themselves or say God doesn't love a specific person. Imagine if you asked your spouse "do you love me?" And he said "yes, I love all women the same." That is not actually love. That's some socialism idea we were brainwashed into believing is Christianity.
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Absolutely, I expect my husband to love me and hate every other woman. My mother, sister and aunt don't like it much but, hey God says it's ok to hate then I feel a lot better about myself.
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ThereRoseaLamb said:
So take a black marker and eliminate the Scripture I posted. That's all lies, is that what you're saying? Just rip those out and throw them away. BTW why do I have to love my enemies but God get's to hate people, for no reason at all? And if God hates your baby, why wouldn't you abort them? Why keep a baby God hates?



What, God hated more people?! Even the animals?!!
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All of the scripture you quoted is directed to the children of God. Therefore it's truth... for us.

That doesn't mean God loves everyone. He loves who he loves, and hates who he hates.

God is allowed to hate but we are not, yes. That's because only God knows their heart. People may go their entire life unsaved, only to come to God on their deathbed.

The babies that were mentioned to kill in the Bible were nephilim (hybrid humans and fallen angels). That's a rabbithole to go down, but all the people he said to "annihilate" were descendents of/or nephilim. King tut in ancient Egypt is a good example. They wanted to keep the "God gene" there so their was incest too.

However he hated Cain and Esau. He never killed them. Even Cain after what he did. He even protected him despite making him leave. He still cares for his enemies...
 
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blueluna5 said:
However he hated Cain and Esau. He never killed them. Even Cain after what he did. He even protected him despite making him leave. He still cares for his enemies...
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Therefore God does just love us all. Has left the choice to believe this or not!
We the people, make the choice to trust God in risen Son or not. Thanks as I see God hates sin (error) of truth about God's love for us all, in being g God's ourselves


Psalm 82:1-7

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Psalm 82
A Psalm of Asaph.
1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty;
he judgeth among the gods.
2 How long will ye judge unjustly,
and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3 Defend the poor and fatherless:
do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy:
rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
5 They know not, neither will they understand;
they walk on in darkness:
all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6 I have said, Ye are gods;
and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men,
and fall like one of the princes

Esau found grace in the sight of God along with Jacob. God doe snot hate anyone, wants what is best for everyone, which seeing Esau, we all also make mistakes also. Thank God for God's Mercy through Son


Genesis 33:9

Authorized (King James) Version

9 And Esau said, I have enough, my brother; keep that thou hast unto thyself.
 
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ThereRoseaLamb

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blueluna5 said:
All of the scripture you quoted is directed to the children of God. Therefore it's truth... for us.
That doesn't mean God loves everyone. He loves who he loves, and hates who he hates.
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No, that's simply untrue. The Bible says God is not a respector of persons. That would make God unjust.


John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"

Romans 5:8
"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us"

1 John 2:2
2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 John 4:8
Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.

Acts 10:34-35
So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.

John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

1 John 4:16
So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.


1 John 4:9-10
In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him. In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

The verse above dovetails with 1 John 2:2

1 Timothy 2
3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.


blueluna5 said:
God is allowed to hate but we are not, yes. That's because only God knows their heart. People may go their entire life unsaved, only to come to God on their deathbed.
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That was just debunked above with Scripture. In fact the Bible says the opposite of what you are saying.

blueluna5 said:
However he hated Cain and Esau. He never killed them. Even Cain after what he did. He even protected him despite making him leave. He still cares for his enemies...
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The Bible doesn't say He hated Cain, it says He disapproved of his offering, He found him insincere. Nor did He hate Esau. That is talking about peoples, not individuals.
 
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