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If one read the linked UN report one would see that they also accused Hamas of war crimes. I didn't mention it because (a) it wasn't relevant to the request and (b) I just wanted to see if some of you would take time to read it to notice. It was a litmus test to determine the level of bias some have for Israel.It would appear that anyone who criticizes the state of Israel in any way is subjected to ad hominem in an attempt to discredit them. The problem with that strategy is not only is it fallacious but critics also include former IDF soldiers, Israeli protesters, and Jewish activists.
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By the way, the following is the Israeli army just recently strapping a regular Palestinian man to the hood of their vehicle actually using him as a human shield, vs the accusations they made against Hamas. Since when is this reasonable to do even in war?
I'm finding more and more that any accusation Israel makes is actually a confession of what they're doing or have done.
I'm finding more and more that any accusation Israel makes is actually a confession of what they're doing or have done.
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If one read the linked UN report one would see that they also accused Hamas of war crimes. I didn't mention it because (a) it wasn't relevant to the request and (b) I just wanted to see if some of you would take time to read it to notice. It was a litmus test to determine the level of bias some have for Israel.It would appear that anyone who criticizes the state of Israel in any way is subjected to ad hominem in an attempt to discredit them. The problem with that strategy is not only is it fallacious but critics also include former IDF soldiers, Israeli protesters, and Jewish activists.
But, the situation of Israel is not depend on their leaders. I know in the german news, before the 7th of october 2023 it seems always that the palastine people were the help less victims of Israel.
We know that the Islam is coming from the devil. And since the Islam was foundet from Mohamed it present themselves as enemys of God. We know also that the Plan of Islam is to rule the world. They fighting were they can against Christians and jews.
The goal of the Iran, who is standing behind Hamas and Hisbollah is to eliminate Israel and the nation of jews.
Very rare I hear to stop Hamas. I saw till today no effort from the UN to stop Hamas or Hisbollah. Hamas hide themself behind the civilians of Gaza. What Israel shoud do? Wait for the next attack? A two state solution in the knowledge that the Hamas and Iran will not stop then their goal to eliminate Israel?
And the UN will do nothing against it?
From my point of view Israel has no other choice. Then to fight or to give up.
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If one read the linked UN report one would see that they also accused Hamas of war crimes. I didn't mention it because (a) it wasn't relevant to the request and (b) I just wanted to see if some of you would take time to read it to notice. It was a litmus test to determine the level of bias some have for Israel.It would appear that anyone who criticizes the state of Israel in any way is subjected to ad hominem in an attempt to discredit them. The problem with that strategy is not only is it fallacious but critics also include former IDF soldiers, Israeli protesters, and Jewish activists.
Its fits little bit in this threat theme from another point of view.
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This is good.
Summarizing her video: The Christian Arabs were welcoming of the Islamic Arabs, even giving them representation in government. Then in 30 years they quickly became the majority in Lebanon and then started slaughtering the Christian Arabs as they wanted an Islamic-only society.
What is very interesting is this testimony mirrors exactly what happened in Palestine with Jews. There were Christian Arabs in Palestine too. Some of the very first Christian converts were Palestinians. In the early 1900s, the Arabs welcomed Jewish groups into Palestine and all was peaceful until the Jewish population grew larger, and then started slaughtering the Arabs and taking land as they wanted a Jewish-only society.
If we step back and set aside identity for a moment (Jewish = good; Muslim = evil), can you see that it's the same spirit leading both groups? "You will know them by their fruit". The actions of the Jewish and Muslim groups mirror each other, thesis vs antithesis, with Christians caught in the middle.
Summarizing her video: The Christian Arabs were welcoming of the Islamic Arabs, even giving them representation in government. Then in 30 years they quickly became the majority in Lebanon and then started slaughtering the Christian Arabs as they wanted an Islamic-only society.
What is very interesting is this testimony mirrors exactly what happened in Palestine with Jews. There were Christian Arabs in Palestine too. Some of the very first Christian converts were Palestinians. In the early 1900s, the Arabs welcomed Jewish groups into Palestine and all was peaceful until the Jewish population grew larger, and then started slaughtering the Arabs and taking land as they wanted a Jewish-only society.
If we step back and set aside identity for a moment (Jewish = good; Muslim = evil), can you see that it's the same spirit leading both groups? "You will know them by their fruit". The actions of the Jewish and Muslim groups mirror each other, thesis vs antithesis, with Christians caught in the middle.
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i agree with you except that these people are not the hebrews, if you read scripture you would know that there were multiple. promises made that God was to accomplish however it was not with these people…
just because people stand in the holy land and declare themselves the house of israel does not make it soo, nobody reads scripture soo at this point anybody can claim they are hebrews and 98% of christians will believe it
what’s worse is it doesn’t matter how much scripture or proofs that you present, the edomites of old have bamboozled jacob, ive been down this road with a handful of christians, God has blinded them because they don’t search the scripture and most importantly they dont even believe Jesus…
If you don’t believe Jesus then your certainly not going to listen to anything i say🤦🏼♂️
just because people stand in the holy land and declare themselves the house of israel does not make it soo, nobody reads scripture soo at this point anybody can claim they are hebrews and 98% of christians will believe it
what’s worse is it doesn’t matter how much scripture or proofs that you present, the edomites of old have bamboozled jacob, ive been down this road with a handful of christians, God has blinded them because they don’t search the scripture and most importantly they dont even believe Jesus…
If you don’t believe Jesus then your certainly not going to listen to anything i say🤦🏼♂️
great post👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
“5For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon Idumea,(EDOM) and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
6The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.(EDOM)
7And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
8For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the CONTROVERSY of ZION.
judgement on those pretending to be jacob
isaiah 34:5-8
You are absolutely correct. The whole Arab and Muslim world -- from the very beginning -- wanted to wipe out Israel and the Israeli Jews, But they were unable to do so. And now Hamas has committed an unprovoked act of aggression and literally declared war on Israel/. Therefore it is ALL OUT WAR. And in wars, no one bothers about the civilians. It is do or die.
But what should concern the whole world is that not a single Arab nation wants to take in Palestinians, Former U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker has explained why Arab states won’t accept Palestinians fleeing the war zone. In a few words it is "fear and loathing" of the Palestinians.
But people should read the whole article. I have simply posted some of what was said.
https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...-states-wont-support-palestinians-qa-00142277
Ryan Crocker warns that the current conflict between Israel and Hamas — and its potential resolution — depend on understanding the history from the Arab side, and the reluctance of other Arabs to come to the Palestinians’ aid….
Some members of Israel’s conservative government are now openly advancing the idea of expelling the Palestinian population from Gaza altogether.
If that were to happen, they would have nowhere in the Arab world to go, says former U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker. Despite public support for Palestinian rights, in truth nearly every Arab state has long viewed the Palestinians with “fear and loathing,” Crocker says. This is especially true of Egypt, which will continue to refuse to admit Palestinians from across the border, he says…
So far, Arab states have not permitted the resettlement of Palestinians in their territory. What’s struck you most about their response to Israel’s war in Gaza?... What’s noteworthy in this entire conflict since Oct. 7 has been the lack of reaction or response from the Arab world. Saudi Arabia continues to hold the door open for a peace agreement with Israel. The UAE, Morocco and Bahrain didn’t even withdraw ambassadors. Jordan did, but of course with about half of its population being Palestinian, Jordan has a particular problem. That lack of reaction I think is very telling. If you needed another example that Arab states are not viscerally concerned about the Palestinians and their fate, this would be it…
How far back does this history of Arab antipathy to the Palestinians go? If the Palestinians were forced out of Gaza, would anyone accept them?
They are truly a people without a land or a refuge anywhere. We’ve all seen the horror of Gaza, and that’s overshadowed the nightmare of the West Bank, which is appalling in its own right. Then you look at the Palestinian diaspora, where they have had an existence of pure hell by and large…
"The last thing the Arab states, particularly those around Palestine and Israel, wanted to see was an independent Palestinian movement, let alone a state," Ryan Crocker said…
We in the West do not remember the War of the Camps, but I assure you that the Iranians and Palestinians do. They understand there is no love in Tehran on the part of Ayatollahs for the Palestinians or their cause…
The trauma of ’67 changed that, where the PLO did emerge as the voice of the Palestinians. And what reaction did you get from the other Arabs? Fear and loathing…
But getting back to the main point: The last thing the Arab states, particularly those around Palestine and Israel, wanted to see was an independent Palestinian movement, let alone a state. Was this because the Arab regimes feared that the hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs displaced by the creation of Israel in 1948 — known as the Nakba (Arabic for “catastrophe”) — and then displaced again in 1967 would want to assume control of the territory of other Arab states?
Yes, in part. The Nakba of 1948 shook the legitimacy of Arab regimes. Seven Arab states declared war on the Zionists — and were decisively routed. Arab leaders feared the consequences of their failure in Palestine, both from elements within their own societies and from Palestinians themselves. … But the fact that Palestine Liberation Army units were under the command of the Arab armies allowed them to keep control of Palestinian arms until the Six Day War.
The 1967 war brought two dramatic changes: It ended dreams of the conquest of Israel by force of arms, and it gave rise to the PLO as a somewhat independent force. These combined to shift the fight for Palestinian control of territory to the Arab lands themselves — Lebanon in 1969 and Jordan in 1970....
Wasn’t there once some actual support in parts of the Arab world for the Palestinian cause, which back then was still mostly secular, under the PLO? That’s in contrast to the dominance today of Hamas, which is anathema to Egypt and the other Arab regimes because of its Muslim Brotherhood-inspired ideology.
It’s a great point. One does tend to look back at the good old days with rose-colored glasses: Gee, if only we could resurrect secular Palestinian nationalism. But even that was seen as an existential threat to both Jordan and Syria. For both countries, the PLO was a threat that they dealt with in different ways, but for both it was their top national security concern. Everything else was secondary. I don’t think we grasped that in the case of Syria…
That is why Egypt just exploded when [U.S. Secretary of State] Tony Blinken proposed they give temporary sanctuary to Gazans. Again, there is an ideological overlay of enmity because of Hamas’ Muslim Brotherhood affiliation, but the deep antipathy and fear on the part of the Egyptian government toward the Palestinians predates that by decades.
All in all, the Palestinians have been hamstrung by their so-called Arab brothers. That was a line I picked up in Lebanon — when someone calls you “brother,” you know you’ve got to watch your back.
But what should concern the whole world is that not a single Arab nation wants to take in Palestinians, Former U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker has explained why Arab states won’t accept Palestinians fleeing the war zone. In a few words it is "fear and loathing" of the Palestinians.
But people should read the whole article. I have simply posted some of what was said.
https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...-states-wont-support-palestinians-qa-00142277
Ryan Crocker warns that the current conflict between Israel and Hamas — and its potential resolution — depend on understanding the history from the Arab side, and the reluctance of other Arabs to come to the Palestinians’ aid….
Some members of Israel’s conservative government are now openly advancing the idea of expelling the Palestinian population from Gaza altogether.
If that were to happen, they would have nowhere in the Arab world to go, says former U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker. Despite public support for Palestinian rights, in truth nearly every Arab state has long viewed the Palestinians with “fear and loathing,” Crocker says. This is especially true of Egypt, which will continue to refuse to admit Palestinians from across the border, he says…
So far, Arab states have not permitted the resettlement of Palestinians in their territory. What’s struck you most about their response to Israel’s war in Gaza?... What’s noteworthy in this entire conflict since Oct. 7 has been the lack of reaction or response from the Arab world. Saudi Arabia continues to hold the door open for a peace agreement with Israel. The UAE, Morocco and Bahrain didn’t even withdraw ambassadors. Jordan did, but of course with about half of its population being Palestinian, Jordan has a particular problem. That lack of reaction I think is very telling. If you needed another example that Arab states are not viscerally concerned about the Palestinians and their fate, this would be it…
How far back does this history of Arab antipathy to the Palestinians go? If the Palestinians were forced out of Gaza, would anyone accept them?
They are truly a people without a land or a refuge anywhere. We’ve all seen the horror of Gaza, and that’s overshadowed the nightmare of the West Bank, which is appalling in its own right. Then you look at the Palestinian diaspora, where they have had an existence of pure hell by and large…
"The last thing the Arab states, particularly those around Palestine and Israel, wanted to see was an independent Palestinian movement, let alone a state," Ryan Crocker said…
We in the West do not remember the War of the Camps, but I assure you that the Iranians and Palestinians do. They understand there is no love in Tehran on the part of Ayatollahs for the Palestinians or their cause…
The trauma of ’67 changed that, where the PLO did emerge as the voice of the Palestinians. And what reaction did you get from the other Arabs? Fear and loathing…
But getting back to the main point: The last thing the Arab states, particularly those around Palestine and Israel, wanted to see was an independent Palestinian movement, let alone a state. Was this because the Arab regimes feared that the hundreds of thousands of Palestinian Arabs displaced by the creation of Israel in 1948 — known as the Nakba (Arabic for “catastrophe”) — and then displaced again in 1967 would want to assume control of the territory of other Arab states?
Yes, in part. The Nakba of 1948 shook the legitimacy of Arab regimes. Seven Arab states declared war on the Zionists — and were decisively routed. Arab leaders feared the consequences of their failure in Palestine, both from elements within their own societies and from Palestinians themselves. … But the fact that Palestine Liberation Army units were under the command of the Arab armies allowed them to keep control of Palestinian arms until the Six Day War.
The 1967 war brought two dramatic changes: It ended dreams of the conquest of Israel by force of arms, and it gave rise to the PLO as a somewhat independent force. These combined to shift the fight for Palestinian control of territory to the Arab lands themselves — Lebanon in 1969 and Jordan in 1970....
Wasn’t there once some actual support in parts of the Arab world for the Palestinian cause, which back then was still mostly secular, under the PLO? That’s in contrast to the dominance today of Hamas, which is anathema to Egypt and the other Arab regimes because of its Muslim Brotherhood-inspired ideology.
It’s a great point. One does tend to look back at the good old days with rose-colored glasses: Gee, if only we could resurrect secular Palestinian nationalism. But even that was seen as an existential threat to both Jordan and Syria. For both countries, the PLO was a threat that they dealt with in different ways, but for both it was their top national security concern. Everything else was secondary. I don’t think we grasped that in the case of Syria…
That is why Egypt just exploded when [U.S. Secretary of State] Tony Blinken proposed they give temporary sanctuary to Gazans. Again, there is an ideological overlay of enmity because of Hamas’ Muslim Brotherhood affiliation, but the deep antipathy and fear on the part of the Egyptian government toward the Palestinians predates that by decades.
All in all, the Palestinians have been hamstrung by their so-called Arab brothers. That was a line I picked up in Lebanon — when someone calls you “brother,” you know you’ve got to watch your back.
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these are the Tares, the children of Esau, they serve their father the devil… all we can do is expose them for the devils they are, Jesus told them “you do not hear my words because you are NOT MY SHEEP!”
and by Jesus wording it in this way we can see why these people are the only people on the planet who have a generational hatred for Jesus Christ!
even muslims (the children of ishmael) have a kind of reverance for Jesus , i pray my brothers and sisters in christ wake up from this deception and expose these devils instead of worshipping them
and by Jesus wording it in this way we can see why these people are the only people on the planet who have a generational hatred for Jesus Christ!
even muslims (the children of ishmael) have a kind of reverance for Jesus , i pray my brothers and sisters in christ wake up from this deception and expose these devils instead of worshipping them
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Who is worshiping which devils? You should not be making such careless remarks. And while the Koran sccepts Jesus as a prophet, it refuses to acknowledge anything else about Him. As for Christians, the Koran says that they are all destined for Hell.
So you cannot possibly be "Mike the Israelite". You reject Israel's right to exist as a nation in Palestine, and support the "right" of Palestinians Arabs to do as they please.
So you cannot possibly be "Mike the Israelite". You reject Israel's right to exist as a nation in Palestine, and support the "right" of Palestinians Arabs to do as they please.
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