June 6, 1944: D-Day In Memoriam

You have the wrong dividing line, but this suits your futurists eschatology so I get it.

What dividing line? The Communists and Fascists have hijacked the Western world recently. They trample on the flag, tear down monuments and statues, and spit on all past history. In terms of eschatology this is Satan and his evil angels coming down to destroy humanity through these evildoers.

The problem is that HeisHere has revised the history of the Arabs in Palestine to suit his biases. That is a part of this revisionism. And Irael and the Israelis are now the "real terrorists".

No actually that is not revisionist history, it is the suppressed history, and acts of terrorism cuts across time and peoples, and I am willing to acknowledge that evil does not singularly reside with one nation or peoples.

Best you not misrepresent my beliefs because it only demonstrates your own lack of knowledge regarding promises made and promises broken prior to WW I.

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[QUOTE="Yahshua, post: 5319661, member: 176016"]He never said: the temple would be destroyed, His people would be tried and scattered, only for them to regather (without Him) back into the land and rebuild another temple just so another AOD event occurs destroying the temple again leading to another great tribulation and scattering of them all before He returns...it's just not in the text.

One of the things that proves The Almighty is Who He says He is is declaring all that will happen in order. So for He (through The Messiah) to list the temple being destroyed only once in the Olivet Discourse means it only happens once and their subsequent scattering only happens once before He returns to regather them back home.

...this also means the people currently in the land are much worse than apostate...they are imposters.[/QUOTE]

Thank you @Yahshua

Then let everyone know exactly what you believe about either party. From all your posts we have learned only your biases, and even what is recorded in Britannica means nothing to you.

I'm not of German descent, but the silence and censorship around the genocide of Germans and the rape of their women toward the end of World War II is truly disgusting (not to mention the firebombing of Dresden - a real Holocaust in the true sense of the word). The way too many people think today, war crimes can only be committed by Germans and only against those identifying as Jews. Hopefully that will change soon.

The world is changing but I am not hopeful... I am going with the "consequence of nonsense."
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I heard that violent gangs are being used to suppress dissent in the state of Israel, because many Israelis have a conscience and are opposed to the war crimes being carried out by the state. The Nazi state is revealing its true colours, I think. I'm not saying people won't be fooled by the next big lie, but I'm hoping they at least get wise to this one.

'All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.' George Orwell.

Dispensationalism is indeed a theological disability - willfully inflicted, perhaps? I remember being unsatisfied with its inconsistencies. Do you view Revelation as being completely fulfilled, or only partially fulfilled? And if the latter, isn't some sort of cultural decline a necessity for the introduction of the mark of the beast?

You are looking at the world through carnal, sense ruled eyes, IF we are truly Christian, we see His creation through the lens of the Father, through spiritual eyes. It is called in scripture, the renewing of the mind.

Orwell, nailed it again.

I think that the Olivet Discourse was fulfilled in the 1st century as Jesus stated it would be, audience relevance makes this undeniable.

I am just amazed how much destruction Scofield and Darby have created based on such horrible hermeneutics.
Parousia by James Stuart Russell and the writings of Josephus are a must read.
I think when I finish this book I will know more about full or partial and what each means.

Dispensationalism was created to lower Christian resistance to tyranny and it was working but

Christians are waking up largely due to work of people outside of the church (so much irony these days) nobody can force the hand of God and 1948 was how many generations ago???

The world is not run by ideologues but by power, money and self interest. Ideology is for the masses as a tool of subversion by the power elitists.

I would say also if the church hadn't been made impotent by Darbyism/Scofieldism cultural marxism may not have been given the opportunity to hijack the western world.

I agree that the Olivet discourse was fulfilled at least in part in ~70AD, but the duality principle plays into this prophecy as well (e.g. Matt. 24: 29-30).

I don't think another temple will be built prior to Christ's return, however, and if it is, it will likely get leveled as well.

Agree on the temple for sure, I think God has made His position on this quite clear!