Simulation

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As @FollowerofShiloh said earlier, these scientists 'hate' the fact when their discoveries point to patterns of God.
So, for being stubborn atheists or for trying to not end their careers by saying that 'all this evidence points to God', they have to make other silly names.
But not all of us are stupid to accept their silly names. I just laugh it off because it's like seeing the elephant in the room and they don't want to call it that.
I am not particularly convinced that atheists even exist, but that's a different topic. Besides just being pantheism my thoughts on the Simulation Theory is maybe it is somewhat reflective of the times. We live in a digital age where people are on computers or the TV or the smartphone alot so it kinda makes sense that as a result they begin to think that reality itself is a simulation. Though really the consequences of their actions should be a pretty big indicator that we're not in the Matrix or playing a video game, there are no do-overs in this very real world.
 
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As @FollowerofShiloh said earlier, these scientists 'hate' the fact when their discoveries point to patterns of God.
So, for being stubborn atheists or for trying to not end their careers by saying that 'all this evidence points to God', they have to make other silly names.
But not all of us are stupid to accept their silly names. I just laugh it off because it's like seeing the elephant in the room and they don't want to call it that.
Amen, Brother!
I do the same :cool:
 

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I am not particularly convinced that atheists even exist, but that's a different topic. Besides just being pantheism my thoughts on the Simulation Theory is maybe it is somewhat reflective of the times. We live in a digital age where people are on computers or the TV or the smartphone alot so it kinda makes sense that as a result they begin to think that reality itself is a simulation. Though really the consequences of their actions should be a pretty big indicator that we're not in the Matrix or playing a video game, there are no do-overs in this very real world.
I agree with you in regards to atheists. The dictionary term 'atheist' does not match reality most of time because you can't lack belief when you're bombarded with information especially in this day and age. You reject belief or God, but you don't lack belief. This doesn't apply to people who have mental problems.
I grew up in state-sanctioned atheism and i might fit the dictionary description of atheist better, but even as a 13 year old kid i had the natural ability to see the sky and ask origin questions without anyone telling me anything about God.
But yeah, the term atheist is an interesting one to discuss and i do talk to them at work when i get the chance.

Your second observation about being in the digital age is also something i agree with since we live in the age of computers, then some of these scientists are influenced by this age.

Either way God stands in full glory with His Creation that we can't even scratch to understand in terms of technical details.
 
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I agree with you in regards to atheists. The dictionary term 'atheist' does not match reality most of time because you can't lack belief when you're bombarded with information especially in this day and age. You reject belief or God, but you don't lack belief. This doesn't apply to people who have mental problems.
I grew up in state-sanctioned atheism and i might fit the dictionary description of atheist better, but even as a 13 year old kid i had the natural ability to see the sky and ask origin questions without anyone telling me anything about God.
But yeah, the term atheist is an interesting one to discuss and i do talk to them at work when i get the chance.

Your second observation about being in the digital age is also something i agree with since we live in the age of computers, then some of these scientists are influenced by this age.

Either way God stands in full glory with His Creation that we can't even scratch to understand in terms of technical details.
Well I don't digress much and be rude to the topic, but my thoughts on atheism not really existing is that it seems like one of two things. 1 it is a reaction against whatever religion that person was born or raised in. 2 for those that are more indulgent of the atheist type doctrines and theories rather than being a reaction it kinda just become pantheism really since without a God their theory basically devolves into a self-creating universe. I guess then this is somewhat still in the frame of this topic since in the Simulation Theory it starts to fall apart when you ask who made the simulation? Either they have to say God made the simulation in which case God says that reality is no simulation or test or anything like that, or they have to conclude that the simulation is self-created or made by the universe which just is pantheism with an extra step that nullifies itself basically.
 

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Well I don't digress much and be rude to the topic, but my thoughts on atheism not really existing is that it seems like one of two things. 1 it is a reaction against whatever religion that person was born or raised in. 2 for those that are more indulgent of the atheist type doctrines and theories rather than being a reaction it kinda just become pantheism really since without a God their theory basically devolves into a self-creating universe. I guess then this is somewhat still in the frame of this topic since in the Simulation Theory it starts to fall apart when you ask who made the simulation? Either they have to say God made the simulation in which case God says that reality is no simulation or test or anything like that, or they have to conclude that the simulation is self-created or made by the universe which just is pantheism with an extra step that nullifies itself basically.
Well that's exactly right. When you say "simulation" you immediately imply that someone created it.
But these atheists love to have a dumb explanation in order to avoid the word God. So they use words like "self-caused" or "self-sustaining" or "Multiverse".
All of which are silly words to avoid calling it for what it is: A Creator, creating a fine-tuned universe who is in control.
 
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Well that's exactly right. When you say "simulation" you immediately imply that someone created it.
But these atheists love to have a dumb explanation in order to avoid the word God. So they use words like "self-caused" or "self-sustaining" or "Multiverse".
All of which are silly words to avoid calling it for what it is: A Creator, creating a fine-tuned universe who is in control.
Well right, so then it would be option #2 which is really just pantheism with new clothes.
 
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Totally agree. Pantheism is another silly name to avoid the word God.
Pantheism is just old fashioned creation-worship really. More specifically its the idea that God is in everything and that God is not a personal entity, but that in essence God is the creation or is an impersonal force that makes up the creation. It's an old heresy but quite prevalent, but then I suppose if one does not believe in God that they will start worshipping the things they see in the creation, and it is then without irony then that man has made idols to almost every single thing in creation at one point or another.
 
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I've read the replies I'll come back and answer direct questions but now my next question is why is the Bible God's word as opposed to other religious text like the vedas, Quran etc? I can see from most responses that creation proves God's existence but I still go back to my original question what proves the Bible is God's ultimate word etc maybe again I don't make sense.
As yet, you have not returned to answer direct questions. I again read your Profile Page and have a few thoughts about it.

First, the above statement of yours rang a bell with me, so one question I would ask is "What was your screen name the last time you were here?"

As well, going through your comments, especially the OP, it is clear that you do not believe the Written Word of God is the Truth. If that is the case, then how do you identify yourself as a Christian, since the Written Word is Testimony of the Living Word (Jesus)? If one does not believe Jesus is Truth, then one can not identify themselves as a Christian, right? I refer to the simplest of Scriptures: John 3:16

Careful study of your writing style in various aspects, I believe you may not be a woman. Rather, your writing style is that of what I would believe to be a middle age man with some education. Possible even a Bachelors Degree at the least.

All of this, IMO, identifies your OP comments to be nothing more than an attempt to palnt the seed of doubt in the hearts and minds of sincere believers here on CC.

This has been tried before. More than once. And the above comment was the lightbulb going off in my memory to alert me to your true intentions. I would suggest you start over with yet another Screen Name because this one is forever tainted.