Not By Works

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crossnote said:
There is a righteousness before God (absolute) and only by the imputed righteousness of Christ through faith, and there is a righteousness before men (which is relative).
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Amen.

The imputed righteousness is called justification. And it is only by calling out to God in faith that we can recieve this precious gift.
 
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crossnote said:
It was simply a rhetorical question.

Not inescapable but imperative.

Let me ask again, "So acting responsible 'makes' us righteous?, or we act righteous because of Christ transforming us?"
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We love (act righteous) because he first loved us.

It is all of God
 
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Everlasting-Grace

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crossnote said:
I'm asking "Does acting responsible make us righteous" OR "Do we act righteous because Christ is actively working in us (sanctifying us)? It's really not a difficult question, more like Salvation 101.
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Simple as can be,

Sadly I think some are looking for things not there
 
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crossnote said:
I'm asking "Does acting responsible make us righteous" OR "Do we act righteous because Christ is actively working in us (sanctifying us)? It's really not a difficult question, more like Salvation 101.
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Okay, have a good day.
 
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I'm not responsible for neither my bad choices nor my good choices, er I mean, I'm held responsible for my bad choices but don't deserve any credit for my good choices, because well, shucks, I'm really, really and exceptionally humble, I mean we're going to speak with all honesty.
 
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HeIsHere said:
We disagree again, faith is being persuaded something is true and yes people have the moral capacity to be persuaded.
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What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason! How infinite in faculty! In form and moving
how express and admirable! In action how like an angel! In apprehension how like a god! The
beauty of the world! The paragon of animals! . . . this quintessence of dust. <= Shakespeare

Those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according
to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. The mind of the flesh is death, but the mind of the Spirit
is life and peace, because the mind of the flesh is hostile to God: It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so.
Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God. You, however, are controlled not by the flesh, but by the Spirit,
if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.
 
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HeIsHere said:
Maybe because it removes responsibility of man and his ability to respond to the Truth of the Gospel message.
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crossnote said:
So acting responsible 'makes' us righteous?, or we act righteous because of Christ transforming us?
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Precious friends, in my own case of "receiving God's Eternal Life," I believe I
see That God's Responsibility (Grace) and my responsibility (faith) Intersected
simultaneously in a [ "twinkling of an eye" ] moment of time:

"Even when we were dead in sins, Hath Quickened us together With​
Christ, ( By Grace ye Are Saved; ) And Hath Raised us up together, and​
Made us sit together in Heavenly Places In Christ Jesus:​
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That in the ages to come He Might Shew The Exceeding Riches​
Of His Grace In His Kindness Toward us Through Christ Jesus.​
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For By Grace Are ye Saved Through faith; and that not of yourselves:​
it is The Gift Of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast..."​
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Therefore, there is Neither "God Forcing" His Program Onto "a robot" Nor
can "a proud one boast of saving himself", and then now I can simply
continue in "humble submission" to The Christ Living Within:

"...For we Are His Workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good​
works, which God Hath Before Ordained that we should walk in them."​
(Ephesians 2:5-10 AV)​

All Thanks, Praise, Honor, and Glory Belong To The Great God And
Saviour, Jesus Christ!

Amen.
 
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GRACE_ambassador said:
Precious friends, in my own case of "receiving God's Eternal Life," I believe I
see That God's Responsibility (Grace) and my responsibility (faith) Intersected
simultaneously in a [ "twinkling of an eye" ] moment of time:
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Amen.
Not the God of withholding, the God of responding.
"your faith has saved you"
 
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GRACE_ambassador said:
Precious friends, in my own case of "receiving God's Eternal Life," I believe I
see That God's Responsibility (Grace) and my responsibility (faith) Intersected
simultaneously in a [ "twinkling of an eye" ] moment of time:

"Even when we were dead in sins, Hath Quickened us together With​
Christ, ( By Grace ye Are Saved; ) And Hath Raised us up together, and​
Made us sit together in Heavenly Places In Christ Jesus:​
​
That in the ages to come He Might Shew The Exceeding Riches​
Of His Grace In His Kindness Toward us Through Christ Jesus.​
​
For By Grace Are ye Saved Through faith; and that not of yourselves:​
it is The Gift Of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast..."​
​
Therefore, there is Neither "God Forcing" His Program Onto "a robot" Nor
can "a proud one boast of saving himself", and then now I can simply
continue in "humble submission" to The Christ Living Within:

"...For we Are His Workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good​
works, which God Hath Before Ordained that we should walk in them."​
(Ephesians 2:5-10 AV)​

All Thanks, Praise, Honor, and Glory Belong To The Great God And
Saviour, Jesus Christ!

Amen.
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That's nice and quaint but I believe God is the first mover in all simultaneous actions..

Genesis 1:1 NKJV
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
 
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