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homwardbound

homwardbound

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If God would force His created beings to follow Him why did Satan rebel. Why did Adam rebel. Jesus died because of our bad choices. If God would have stopped these bad choices and saved Jesus from the torture of the cross why didn't He?

To save us in his Son’s risen Life for us, left us all to choose to believe God or not believe God in risen Son for them or not. Then from God be born new in God's Spirit andTruth, learning new from any and all mistakes made.

The new life is in the risen Christ, the death was only for reconciliation first.
 
p_rehbein

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Revelation 3:20 - Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

1 Corinthians 10:13 - There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

John 1:12-13 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: (Read More...)

Deuteronomy 30:19-20 - I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: (Read More...)

Genesis 2:16-17 - And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: (Read More...)

James 1:13-16 - Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: (Read More...)

Galatians 5:16-17 - This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. (Read More...)

2 Timothy 2:26 - And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Romans 10:9-10 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Read More..


Mark 8:34 - And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
 
homwardbound

homwardbound

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p_rehbein said:
Revelation 3:20 - Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

1 Corinthians 10:13 - There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

John 1:12-13 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: (Read More...)

Deuteronomy 30:19-20 - I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: (Read More...)

Genesis 2:16-17 - And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: (Read More...)

James 1:13-16 - Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: (Read More...)

Galatians 5:16-17 - This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. (Read More...)

2 Timothy 2:26 - And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Romans 10:9-10 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Read More..


Mark 8:34 - And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
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Thank you for this truth and by trust to God in the risen Son we are saved by God and not of self
Humility,
I see this
I have no righteousness, none , of me or of anyone else, but Son the risen One given me to have this righteousness, which is God's righteousness only, to me anyways
Standing in trust Col 1:21-23
 
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