Welcome to the Kamala Harris Presidential Campaign

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,488
6,928
113
#81
I was reminded of the book of Jude

10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

We should beware of these ones, realizing the forums and online platforms are probably full of them like gnats buzzing around.

11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

The way of Cain is not the way of God. Abel listened to the word of God and from that got the revelation to raise sheep. Cain ignored the change since the Fall and carried on in the way that was fine prior to the Fall. Balaam ran greedily for gain. As I have pointed out with a budget as big as these presidential campaign budgets are they can afford to manipulate Facebook, X, and a whole host of platforms like this forum. Using AI it would be simple and inexpensive. This is why we are seeing a whole lot of new members this year whose only interest it seems is politics. The gainsaying of Core is a rebellion against God and His leadership. Do not be naive and think that we don't have to worry about this on a Christian chat forum.

12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

I love this analogy to "clouds without water". They look like big swelling words, but in the end no content, nothing of value to add. Are they truly ministers of the word? Their fruit is all withered or they are totally devoid of fruit. We pluck up weeds by the roots and they are simply weeds in God's garden.

13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

They rage like the waves of the sea, you see them foaming at the mouth, but they are simply wandering stars. Here today, gone tomorrow.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,488
6,928
113
#82

'Should Be Removed From Office': GOP Lawmaker Calls For The 25th Amendment To Be Invoked For Biden

If the President is unable to serve he should step down. They want us to speculate according to the narrative they are feeding us, but there is no reason why we should. If we have to speculate on why he stepped down and denied the Democrats the right to choose their candidate we can speculate that is why he did it. Perhaps they did not want Democrats choosing a candidate like RFK. Why wouldn't that be just as valid a reason?
 

Dude653

Senior Member
Mar 19, 2011
13,021
1,153
113
#83

'Should Be Removed From Office': GOP Lawmaker Calls For The 25th Amendment To Be Invoked For Biden

If the President is unable to serve he should step down. They want us to speculate according to the narrative they are feeding us, but there is no reason why we should. If we have to speculate on why he stepped down and denied the Democrats the right to choose their candidate we can speculate that is why he did it. Perhaps they did not want Democrats choosing a candidate like RFK. Why wouldn't that be just as valid a reason?
RFK is a tin foil hat cuckoo who thinks vaccines cause autism and 5G causes cancer. He also said people who deny climate change should be criminally prosecuted
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,488
6,928
113
#84
RFK is a tin foil hat cuckoo who thinks vaccines cause autism and 5G causes cancer. He also said people who deny climate change should be criminally prosecuted
And he would have gotten more votes than Kamala, tells you a whole lot about the candidates that the Democrats have.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,488
6,928
113
#85
Kamala Harris answers questions on National Security, the border and healthcare

Q: This is probably the most serious time in world history, we may be closer to a nuclear war than ever before. As President how do you plan on addressing this?

KH: “We got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are because you have been forced to have taken this seriously,”

Q: Yes, but what do you plan on doing about it?

KH: “It is time for us to do what we have been doing. And that time is every day.”

Q: Right. I don't think I have been clear. If you become president can you describe your plan on how you will work to bring peace?

KH: "We will work together, and continue to work together, to address these issues…and to work together as we continue to work, operating from the new norms, rules, and agreements, that we will convene to work together...we will work on this together."

Q: And how exactly do you see the situation in Europe?

KH: “So Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So, basically, that’s wrong.”

Q: Let's change topics. You were made the Border Czar, can you describe what that was like?

KH: I was standing on a ladder outside the Homestead juvenile immigrant detention center outside Miami, looking over the fence, and I saw children lined up like prisoners. They had been separated from their families and put in this private detention facility. It was horrible.

Q: OK, let's change topics. Elizabeth Warren has said your greatest achievement as VP was visiting an abortion clinic. Is this a fundamental issue for you?

KH: I do not believe that government should be in the business of telling women what they should do with their bodies.

Q: How do you reconcile that position with your position on mandating an experimental vaccine that killed 17 million people?
 

tedincarolina

Active member
Jul 25, 2024
495
94
28
#86

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,488
6,928
113
#87
Hi @ZNP

I'm going to guess that you have some proof of that? Or maybe not. Perhaps it's something that you've heard from the talking heads that are directing your thoughts and understanding.

Harris vs. Trump vs. RFK Jr. polls - The Hill and DDHQ
The best way to prove this would be to let the democrats vote. You have several weeks before the DNC so just let every state have another vote prior to the DNC.

The second best way would be to have an open primary.

What they are doing is completely undemocratic. If Trump were to drop out no one would assume JD Vance should be the presumptive candidate. In 2020 Kamala Harris did not win any delegates, there is no evidence to support her assuming she would win in a real primary.

As for evidence in this primary RFK has received more votes than Kamala Harris did as she has not received any votes at all. 0

All she has gotten is the endorsement of a man with dementia.
 

tedincarolina

Active member
Jul 25, 2024
495
94
28
#88
1. They steal an election through fraud.
Hi @ZNP

So, we can do this point by point if you're up to it.

What evidence do you have to support that claim? Do you have someone's testimony that they voted illegally? Do you have a handful of ballots for which there are not corresponding names on the voter rolls? Or that someone voted someone else's name on the voter rolls? Explain for us simple folk and all of the judiciary in the nation, 'how' the democratic party used fraud to cast illegal votes that shouldn't have been counted.

I mean, Giuliani claimed that he saw on some grainy video a couple of women stuffing illegal ballots, but no one can find the illegal ballots and the testimony of the two women is that they did no such thing. What happened to the ballots? Did they just disappear? Did someone, after all the counts and recounts sneak in and take them out?

What's your evidence for the claim you are supporting?
 

cv5

Well-known member
Nov 20, 2018
23,789
8,616
113
#89
The best way to prove this would be to let the democrats vote. You have several weeks before the DNC so just let every state have another vote prior to the DNC.

The second best way would be to have an open primary.

What they are doing is completely undemocratic. If Trump were to drop out no one would assume JD Vance should be the presumptive candidate. In 2020 Kamala Harris did not win any delegates, there is no evidence to support her assuming she would win in a real primary.

As for evidence in this primary RFK has received more votes than Kamala Harris did as she has not received any votes at all. 0

All she has gotten is the endorsement of a man with dementia.
They will never have a legit vote for a legit candidate.
Simon Legree's decision is final and binding.
 

cv5

Well-known member
Nov 20, 2018
23,789
8,616
113
#90
Hi @ZNP

So, we can do this point by point if you're up to it.

What evidence do you have to support that claim? Do you have someone's testimony that they voted illegally? Do you have a handful of ballots for which there are not corresponding names on the voter rolls? Or that someone voted someone else's name on the voter rolls? Explain for us simple folk and all of the judiciary in the nation, 'how' the democratic party used fraud to cast illegal votes that shouldn't have been counted.

I mean, Giuliani claimed that he saw on some grainy video a couple of women stuffing illegal ballots, but no one can find the illegal ballots and the testimony of the two women is that they did no such thing. What happened to the ballots? Did they just disappear? Did someone, after all the counts and recounts sneak in and take them out?

What's your evidence for the claim you are supporting?
Did you expect a baby bottle and pablum too?

Anyone who has conducted their own research knows perfectly well how it all went down.
 

tedincarolina

Active member
Jul 25, 2024
495
94
28
#91
Did you expect a baby bottle and pablum too?

Anyone who has conducted their own research knows perfectly well how it all went down.
So, you're just going to deflect and not answer the questions? And for the record, I have done my research. I'm asking you to do yours. Since you seem to be alluding that you 'know perfectly well how it all went down', to explain it to those of us who have also looked at the available evidence but don't find what you apparently have found. What did you find concerning fraudulent voting in the 2020 election cycle?

That seems to be a big problem with the GOP in their defense system. They make wild claims. But when asked to show the evidence to support such claims, they always come up short. Rep. Jim Jordan and Comer have been trying for over 3 years to come up with evidence to support their claims and they have yet to bring one single piece of evidence to support their position. Are you like them? That your anger and distrust and animosity towards a group would cause you to just spew lies out from the mouth of the Serpent?

So, once again. What evidentiary proof do you have that anyone voted illegally or fraudulently in the 2020 election?
 

tedincarolina

Active member
Jul 25, 2024
495
94
28
#92
Hi @cv5

My apologies in thinking that your response was from @ZNP. But the same questions stand. Rather than attempting to denigrate me as being somehow a small infant that needs a bottle and pablum, you'd just answer the questions that are standing. I'm sure that Rep. Jordan and Comer would gladly take any hard evidence they can get in the matter, because they haven't found any.
 

Cameron143

Well-known member
Mar 1, 2022
20,076
6,883
113
62
#93
Hi @cv5

My apologies in thinking that your response was from @ZNP. But the same questions stand. Rather than attempting to denigrate me as being somehow a small infant that needs a bottle and pablum, you'd just answer the questions that are standing. I'm sure that Rep. Jordan and Comer would gladly take any hard evidence they can get in the matter, because they haven't found any.
We do know that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court allowed illegal ballots posted after the deadline date. @PennEd listed a whole list of voting irregularities in another thread. Perhaps he will see this and repost.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

Well-known member
Jan 17, 2023
4,832
2,087
113
#94
We do know that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court allowed illegal ballots posted after the deadline date. @PennEd listed a whole list of voting irregularities in another thread. Perhaps he will see this and repost.

The truth about Hunter Biden was withheld. Facebook, Tic Tok, Twitter and the MSM, except for a couple all lied and flushed the story. A poll was taken that proved that a certain percentage of people would not have voted for Biden had they known the truth about the Hunter story. And that percentage would have caused Trump to win.

They stole it the first time with lies and they are trying to do it again. If Biden isn't fit to run FOR office he shouldn't BE in office. So far no one is holding him to it. Why is beyond me.
 

tedincarolina

Active member
Jul 25, 2024
495
94
28
#95
We do know that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court allowed illegal ballots posted after the deadline date. @PennEd listed a whole list of voting irregularities in another thread. Perhaps he will see this and repost.
Hi @Cameron143

No we don't. We know that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court allowed ballots to be counted that were received after the election date, but were postmarked as having been in the mail prior to the election date. No problem there. If it was postmarked before the election date, then it was still a ballot that was made without any knowledge of who the winner might be. The same knowledge as each one of us have when we cast our ballot.

I used to be a landlord and I would always tell my tenants that if I received their mailed rent payment in an envelope that was postmarked before the due date of the rent, then I would consider that a timely rent payment. Similarly, if someone fills out a mail in ballot on the day of, or the day before, the election and got it to the post office in time for it to be postmarked at least by the day of the election, then that ballot is valid. And if the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania says that it is legal, then it isn't in any way a fraudulent ballot. It would be a perfectly legal ballot according to the election laws of the state of Pennsylvania. We should keep in mind that each state has the lawful duty to determine how the voting process works within their boundaries.

BTW do you know how many ballots were counted as such? How many ballots did the elections departments of Pennsylvania receive after the election date that were postmarked by the election date? That issue doesn't really have any bearing on the matter, but I'm just curious whether or not you've done the research to prove your point. And of course, another more important matter would be, how many of those late ballots were for the Democratic ticket and how many for the Republican ticket? You might actually find out that more Republican votes came in by mail after the election date but postmarked on or before it.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
37,488
6,928
113
#96
Hi @ZNP

So, we can do this point by point if you're up to it.

What evidence do you have to support that claim? Do you have someone's testimony that they voted illegally? Do you have a handful of ballots for which there are not corresponding names on the voter rolls? Or that someone voted someone else's name on the voter rolls? Explain for us simple folk and all of the judiciary in the nation, 'how' the democratic party used fraud to cast illegal votes that shouldn't have been counted.

I mean, Giuliani claimed that he saw on some grainy video a couple of women stuffing illegal ballots, but no one can find the illegal ballots and the testimony of the two women is that they did no such thing. What happened to the ballots? Did they just disappear? Did someone, after all the counts and recounts sneak in and take them out?

What's your evidence for the claim you are supporting?
No sorry, we spent years on this topic. Why don't you go and read what has already been discussed. I would suggest NEW CC Perspectives on Levels of Conspiracy & Corruption in 2020 Election, CV19 & DS Existence

I am like Patton, not interested in paying twice for the same real estate.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

Well-known member
Jan 17, 2023
4,832
2,087
113
#97
Personally, I find VP Harris to be a worthy candidate for the office. We'll see what the country thinks in a few months.

I'm not going to get into the questions. I didn't write them. But I'm going to ask as a Christian what does Kammy stand for that you think makes her a worthy candidate. And Trump didn't waiver on abortion, Christians did. They will not get out and vote so he did the smartest thing, left it to the states. Now if Christians actually care about life instead of just giving it lip service they will get off their round behinds and go vote. No reason to lose a national election because of stiff necked Christians.

Let's get to Harris, who will not say there should be any limits on abortion. Trump has said he's for the three exceptions, I disagree. But Harris will not say anything about limits. How do you defend that POV as a Christian?
 

cv5

Well-known member
Nov 20, 2018
23,789
8,616
113
#98
you'd just answer the questions that are standing.
No. Its not worth my time and effort.
But by all means put on your Dick Tracy hat and spend a few months investigating the vast mountain of evidence and come to your own conclusions.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

Well-known member
Jan 17, 2023
4,832
2,087
113
No. Its not worth my time and effort.
But by all means put on your Dick Tracy hat and spend a few months investigating the vast mountain of evidence and come to your own conclusions.
Yeah, when people try to score that point with me I simply point out the obvious. There is no earthly way that 1% Joe and 2% Kammy got more votes than the first black president, let alone Trump. Trump has crowds over 20 thousand people, I know, my sister and her husband attended a rally and stood in line for hours. They were giving Kammy a big pat on the back because she got one thousand people. rofl