This is who the media is trying to sell to me as the best candidate?

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Came across this clip while watching the Dan Bongino show. I know a lot of American's have a short memory or are extremely busy with day to day tasks, but is this the person we want having access to the nuclear codes or being commander in Chief of the U.S. armed forces? Being a veteran of the armed forces, young men and women do die and get completely disabled in war and conflicts.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1821961263515120108
 

Nehemiah6

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...but is this the person we want having access to the nuclear codes or being commander in Chief of the U.S. armed forces?
It is sheer INSANITY to be having an incompetent, incoherent flake, and total fake as a presidential candidate, when even her "anointing" was illegal and undemocratic.

It is the responsibility of the "press" (now Leftist media networks) to expose all this to the general public, and demand sanity from the government. But instead of that they are cheering her on. We can only hope that in spite of all the shenanigans of the Democrats, God will ensure that they do not succeed with their nefarious plot to make America a Communist tyranny. There are no liberals, socialists, or progressive anymore. Just Communists. And this is simply another Bolshevik Revolution.
 

Henri

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It is sheer INSANITY to be having an incompetent, incoherent flake, and total fake as a presidential candidate, when even her "anointing" was illegal and undemocratic.

It is the responsibility of the "press" (now Leftist media networks) to expose all this to the general public, and demand sanity from the government. But instead of that they are cheering her on. We can only hope that in spite of all the shenanigans of the Democrats, God will ensure that they do not succeed with their nefarious plot to make America a Communist tyranny. There are no liberals, socialists, or progressive anymore. Just Communists. And this is simply another Bolshevik Revolution.
Totally agree! It's frustrating!
 

Henri

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Okay - I'm new to this so it takes me awhile to get the hang of this new forum. I'm nervous and frustrated with what's going on in the political world. Praying that God is working it out. Well, of course He is but not sure if it's the way I want.
 

Nehemiah6

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Totally agree! It's frustrating!
And yet the RINOs (Republicans in Name Only) are always so eager to avoid shutting down the government, when that would have been the best way to stop the Democratic agenda from going forward. They have also helped the Democrats inflate the federal deficit by passing those spending bills.
US Federal Deficit Grows 10% to $244 Billion
Read Newsmax: US Federal Deficit Grows 10% to $244 Billion | Newsmax.com

In fact, if they had the guts, they would have boycotted both houses until the border had been shut down and all the illegals deported to Mexico. That is what their Republican principles demand.

Now they are talking about how a lame duck president will try to push through his agenda at the end of his term, and once again they refuse to talk about shutting down the government. So in effect they always support the Democrats rather than oppose them. None of them has strongly objected to the nomination of Kamala Harris.
 

Nehemiah6

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Also Harris is afraid of the influence of X (formerly Twitter) in helping people see through her fakery. So she is now attacking Elon Musk, just like the EU has done. None of them want the truth to come out.
 

ResidentAlien

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Harris is probably going to win so might as well get used to the idea.
 

Nehemiah6

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Harris is probably going to win so might as well get used to the idea.
So you would rather see America totally destroyed than pray for her total defeat? How do you justify this as a Christian?
 

shittim

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The Renewing of the Mind is to come after salvation. it isn't stressed anymore, read Ephesians and other letters. Renewing the mind to see the world as the Father sees it, must become 24/7/365 in Him this way. This is not our home, and we know it is without end.
blessings
 

tedincarolina

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I'm guessing that's some reference to illegal voting? Yeah, I get it.

The problem that I see with that is that the people who have been charged with such crimes as voting a deceased or invalid family members ballot is that the cases all seem to apply to one party over the other. I remember reading a couple of years back about a man who sent in his dead mother's ballot.

We'll see. I would advise everyone to just vote wisely. Gather your evidence, check it all out, and cast your vote. That's the best that any of us can do. And is the only legal thing that we can do.

God bless and vote wisely,
Ted
 

Billyd

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All my dead relatives voted Democrat all their lives. In fact, until Ronald Regan, Republicans were shunned. I think I'll let them rest in peace.

I grew up in the deep south.
 

ZNP

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I'm guessing that's some reference to illegal voting? Yeah, I get it.

The problem that I see with that is that the people who have been charged with such crimes as voting a deceased or invalid family members ballot is that the cases all seem to apply to one party over the other. I remember reading a couple of years back about a man who sent in his dead mother's ballot.

We'll see. I would advise everyone to just vote wisely. Gather your evidence, check it all out, and cast your vote. That's the best that any of us can do. And is the only legal thing that we can do.

God bless and vote wisely,
Ted
The problem I see is that the percent of people calling for audits has steadily increased over the last four years. Polling indicates more than 50% of the public believes that we have election fraud (not to be confused with stolen elections). In fact the percent of people in polls who believe some election fraud takes place has been as high as 70%.

Now to me that warrants a full audit. An audit is not a "recount". That is idiotic.

No, an audit will have a canvass, so if 20 people mailed in ballots from one address you want to confirm that 20 registered voters live at that address.

You want to check voter registration and remove dead people and people who have moved out of the state.

You want mail in ballots to have a very stringent signature verification since it is well known the easiest way to commit fraud in an election is with mail in ballots.

You want video surveillance at every spot that mail in ballots can be deposited to make sure people are not stuffing more than one ballot into the box, as that is potentially fraudulent (there are exceptions if your immediate family member is an invalid or very sick).

You also want watermarks on the ballots to make sure people are not using phony ballots.

You also need to correlate paper ballots with the votes to make sure no one ran the ballots through more than one time.

You also want every polling place under constant video surveillance.

Now the cost to do all this is estimated to be in the millions of dollars. In fact they complained that a full audit of all 50 states could cost upwards of $100 million. To me that is trivial, they sent $160 billion to Ukraine without so much as a debate. Trust in our election process is foundational to our Republic. Without it we will have a civil war. So complaining about an expense less than 1% of what we sent to Ukraine. That only reenforces the feeling that we are being lied to and cheated.

I was a teacher, our school was audited every three years. Fortune 500 companies are audited. It seems very reasonable to me that every five years or so the entire system of voting in this country should be audited. Will it cost money? Sure, but imagine how much it would cost us if we don't do it? Next thing you know we'll have 20% inflation. The average US household spent $72,000 in 2022. 20% inflation will cost the average American household $14,000 a year. Meanwhile the average American Tax bill was a little less than $18,000. So the cost of the audit would be 0.002% of that every five years or 0.0005%. It is certainly reasonable that the audit could prevent a certain amount of corruption and fraud so that it saved taxpayers money.

Who knows stolen elections could result in millions of illegal aliens coming into the country, or State governments releasing felons onto the streets, or even WW3.

To me it is far easier to deal with election fraud if it was not so pervasive as to actually cause an election to be stolen. Obviously once the people who are in power got there by stealing the election they will fight against an audit. They'll accuse people asking for audits of being paranoid, poor losers, any insult they can. Soon you will have people who are idiots in power, people with dementia or that seem more suited for teaching kindergarten.
 

tedincarolina

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Polling indicates more than 50% of the public believes that we have election fraud (not to be confused with stolen elections). In fact the percent of people in polls who believe some election fraud takes place has been as high as 70%.
Hi @ZNP

Well gosh, I believe we have election fraud. I've already posted some of the cases. It happens in at least every election we've had over the last 40 years. Man's heart is wicked. Who can know it?


But it's maybe a few thousand votes in a general election. I'm being generous with that number. According to an AP study of 6 states, they found 475 'possible' cases. And they were mixed as far as being cast for one party over another. The article didn't seem to have the findings yet on exactly how many of those 475 'possible' cases, did in fact turn out to be fraudulent votes. That's about 0.15%. That's about 1/7th of 330k people, which would be about 5,000 votes, IF all those 475 turn out to be fraudulent. Many of them were address fails which are likely just mistakes of some kind, but the vote is actually valid.


Who knows stolen elections could result in millions of illegal aliens coming into the country, or State governments releasing felons onto the streets, or even WW3.
Certainly if we ever have one, we should be mindful of that issue. But you've got to have a stolen election first, according to your scenario.

Look, you have to believe what you believe is the truth of the matter. But every single claim of some 'known' voter fraud attempt that would carry off some kind of master plan to steal or somehow subvert the outcome of the 2020 election has been thoroughly checked out and wholly debunked and thrown out as having any kind of proof of a fraudulent election process. Now, you go with what you believe and you read what supports your position and go on, but...


PolitiFact | Fact-checking misleading claims of 2020 election fraud in Fulton County, Georgia

Flawed Calculation Behind False Claim of Fraudulent Votes - FactCheck.org

PolitiFact | Georgia officials found more than 2,600 uncounted ballots, but they’re not evidence of fraud

PolitiFact | No, there weren’t more votes than registered voters in the 2020 election

Fact check: What's true about 2020 election, vote counts, certification (usatoday.com)

Widespread election fraud claims by Republicans don't match the evidence | Brookings

Thin Allegations of 'Dead People' Voting - FactCheck.org
this article points out the fact that very, very rarely a spouse (or family member) will attempt to vote a dead family member's mail-in ballot.

Fact check: 'Illegal votes' in Wisconsin not larger than Biden victory (usatoday.com)

Nine Election Fraud Claims, None Credible - FactCheck.org

And I could likely fill two pages of fact checked evidence of all the claims that you're still holding up to yourself as being true. But they aren't. I really don't understand why so many people still believe so many of these accounts and no one can give them a single shred of evidence to support it. Can't find a single person to make a credible claim that they had participated in such schemes. Can't find a shred of evidence of any kind of paper trail or group of people who did these things that are alleged to have been done. And honestly, anyone who believes that the evidence of such a widespread national fraud just hasn't been found yet, probably still believes that the moon is made of green cheese. It just is not the reality of what is out here where real life is lived out. Out here where people send in their ballots dutifully on election day and they get counted and tabulated and verified, it isn't happening. I don't understand it.

But, then when I read in the Scriptures about God sending a delusion, I shake my head up and down and say to myself, "Yep, we are ripe for that."

God bless and vote wisely guys,
Ted
 

Nehemiah6

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Well gosh, I believe we have election fraud. I've already posted some of the cases. It happens in at least every election we've had over the last 40 years. Man's heart is wicked. Who can know it?
Another attempt at dodging the real issue. Did the last 40 years have voting machines, COVID19 scams, blatantly stolen elections, illegals flooding the country to fraudulently vote for Democrats, etc?

And then a quote from Scripture for some virtue signaling. So how come India (with over 1 billion people) -- with a majority of Hindus who worship false gods -- had cleaner elections recently than the USA?

Man's heart is wicked has nothing to do with it. The thirst for illegitimate power by American Democrats has everything to do with it. The desire to destroy America has everything to do with it. But since you are one of them what else should one expect?
 

Susanna

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I’m no fan of Trump, but it’s strange that the media isn’t digging into Harris’s very short path from being a pretty extreme leftist to becoming a moderate. In fact they are not asking Harris any critical questions.