A Challenge facing our nation right now

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Smoke

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Cbarber said:
By that logic, if Trump supporters were such a prayerful clan, would he have been found guilty of 34 felony charges (with more charges pending), found liable for sexual assault, found guilty of fraud, etc.?

Each is accountable for their own actions. We should pray for the president of our country regardless of who is in office.

Don't lose your soul to politics and the doctrines of men.
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Just an FYI, I don't think you're a bot and I think you are being sincere. Because of this, I want to engage civilly with you as we are brother and sister in Christ.

Unfortunately, you are correct that Trump was convicted of 34 counts of fraud in relation to the payoff. This is being appealed and it's interesting to see what it's conclusion will be. You are being factual and I can't refute that other than to say many, myself included, feel it's a possibility that the DoJ was weaponized to hurt Trump in his 2024 campaign for the presidency.

You are also correct that Trump was found "liable" for sexual assault in the civil case. The burden of proof for civil cases is FAR less than in a criminal case. I do think it's a bit unfair to assume Trump is in fact guilty of something he may be innocent of. All it takes is for a majority of the jurors to find it likely than not that Trump committed a sexual assault. However, could we mutually agree that being found "liable" is NOT the same thing as he was found "guilty" of sexual assault?
 
Cbarber

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Smoke said:
Just an FYI, I don't think you're a bot and I think you are being sincere. Because of this, I want to engage civilly with you as we are brother and sister in Christ.

Unfortunately, you are correct that Trump was convicted of 34 counts of fraud in relation to the payoff. This is being appealed and it's interesting to see what it's conclusion will be. You are being factual and I can't refute that other than to say many, myself included, feel it's a possibility that the DoJ was weaponized to hurt Trump in his 2024 campaign for the presidency.

You are also correct that Trump was found "liable" for sexual assault in the civil case. The burden of proof for civil cases is FAR less than in a criminal case. I do think it's a bit unfair to assume Trump is in fact guilty of something he may be innocent of. All it takes is for a majority of the jurors to find it likely than not that Trump committed a sexual assault. However, could we mutually agree that being found "liable" is NOT the same thing as he was found "guilty" of sexual assault?
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Yes, liable is the correct word and why I used it!
 
Cbarber

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cv5 said:
You mean to say that you have failed to comprehend the sordid facts pertaining the these unlawful constitution-warping Soviet-style show trials initiated by Bidens weaponized DOJ assets?

Bummer.

Well....if we get lucky I figure that the tag team of RFK and Trump will put an end to these outrageous political rival witch hunts.
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I love America. I believe we have a great country. I have no reason to believe that we have an "unlawful, Constitution-warping soviet-style" justice system. That sounds like something made up in anti-american right wing echo chambers. 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
cv5

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Cbarber said:
I love America. I believe we have a great country. I have no reason to believe that we have an "unlawful, Constitution-warping soviet-style" justice system. That sounds like something made up in anti-american right wing echo chambers. 🤷🏼‍♀️
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Aaawww your naivete routine is so cute. Have a nice day.
 
cv5

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"My lords, the law of nature moves me to sorrow for my sister; the burden that is fallen upon me makes me amazed, and yet, considering I am God's creature, ordained to obey His appointment, I will thereto yield, desiring from the bottom of my heart that I may have assistance of His grace to be the minister of His heavenly will in this office now committed to me. And as I am but one body naturally considered, though by His permission a body politic to govern, so shall I desire you all ... to be assistant to me, that I with my ruling and you with your service may make a good account to Almighty God and leave some comfort to our posterity on earth. I mean to direct all my actions by good advice and counsel."

- Elizabeth I
 
cv5

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cv5

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Stephen Miller
@StephenM
BREAKING: Huge win for America First Legal. A federal judge just ordered a HALT to the Biden-Harris executive amnesty giving 1M+ illegal aliens a path to citizenship. FROZEN.

https://x.com/AGAndrewBailey/status/1828241357414010897

Attorney General Andrew Bailey
@AGAndrewBailey
🚨BREAKING: We have obtained a court order HALTING
@JoeBiden
and
@KamalaHarris
’ illegal parole in place program allowing illegal aliens to remain in our country after they’ve crossed the border.

HUGE win for the rule of law.

Onward and upward.
 
cv5

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cv5

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House Judiciary GOP 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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Mark Zuckerberg just admitted three things:

1. Biden-Harris Admin "pressured" Facebook to censor Americans.

2. Facebook censored Americans.

3. Facebook throttled the Hunter Biden laptop story.

Big win for free speech.
 
cv5

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Read the thread....

Michael Shellenberger
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1. TWITTER FILES: PART 7

The FBI & the Hunter Biden Laptop

How the FBI & intelligence community discredited factual information about Hunter Biden’s foreign business dealings both after and *before* The New York Post revealed the contents of his laptop on October 14, 2020
 
cv5

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gb9 said:
so, zuck told everyone what we have pretty much known for years....
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Aiding and abetting....

"Communist dictator Maduro got away with stealing the Venezuela election using Dominion Smartmatic machines. Exit polls had him losing by 35 points. Now he's putting people in jail for not accepting the stolen election. Does this sound familiar?"
 
cv5

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You have to admit.....things are a little different this go-around.

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NightTwister

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JayBird said:
Wow, that's pretty significant if true, so I'm very interested to see how that would play out If you can explain, I'd really appreciate it.


Did that happen? If so, can I see a source or citation?
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Normally I'd say "Do your own research", but we know you won't.
 
Jimbone

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Cbarber said:
I love America. I believe we have a great country. I have no reason to believe that we have an "unlawful, Constitution-warping soviet-style" justice system. That sounds like something made up in anti-american right wing echo chambers. 🤷🏼‍♀️
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Really? You love it? Then why the heck are you here indorsing the person that is destroying it and pushing nonstop lies and propaganda about the person that wants to make it better for us all, like he did in his last term? You love the country but want the person who has made this country objectively and measurably worse in almost every way to run it? That contradicts your words and I just can't believe you when you're so blind to the truth. You don't love it enough to live in reality, or to turn from the father of lies for the truth. You don't seem to love the truth, from what my eyes see anyway.

We love you and hope you have a great day.
 
PennEd

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JayBird said:
Wow, that's pretty significant if true, so I'm very interested to see how that would play out If you can explain, I'd really appreciate it.


Did that happen? If so, can I see a source or citation?
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If I definitively show you how Biden/Kommiela DOJ threatened and went after Christian parents who voiced objections at school board meetings will you PROMISE to vote for Trump?
 
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