Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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SonJudgment

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Would you like to enlighten the readers here on what “useful idiots” means?
We readers already know what a useful idiot is lol.


Proverbs 19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape.

They were gaslighting us the day after the debate learn from this. Do not let them escape.

9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish.

You have to remember which News outlets lied to you and then you have to stop watching them. Let their ratings dry up.

28 An ungodly witness scorneth judgment: and the mouth of the wicked devoureth iniquity.

Don't be deceived, if they are scorning judgment they are ungodly, doesn't matter if they claim they are Christians. If they are devouring up iniquity they are wicked, you judge a tree by its fruit. Do they scorn judgment? Do they devour iniquity? That is what you pay attention to not do they masquerade as an angel of light.
I think it validates my initial debate comments and analysis. I think in a sense the democrats could consider it a minor win to themselves after Biden. I mean Biden's performance was horrendous frankly, in all fairness I think they were just elated that Kamala could form a sentence, so I think there is some truth in that they were genuinely happy with themselves in that. Though indeed in their exhilaration they really let themselves go and show us alot. It's the classic democrat trap we've been talking about for months where they try to gaslight everybody but only gaslight themselves. The post-debate show is interesting, indeeed it seems now they have crowed too hard and didn't realize that the debate showed us that they have alot of crow to eat. Trump's final statement and rhetorical question runs deep asking them why the democrats haven't done anything about all this crow they created in 4 years. The solution here is simple, not only to select Trump, but really you need to stroke the democrats down ballot. In an ironic sense it is even in the democrats best interest to get crushed in the elections even wholly downballot because it might be the only way to get them to stop, self-reflect, actually genuinely learn, and repent and rebuild. I don't think they will learn if even just Kamala is defeated because really I mean they very callously put her up there in total mockery to democracy in the first place so they don't really care about her too much except for to beat Trump. They have to be stroked across their whole party and rebuked sharply in order to get them to even question their false ideology-religion and forsake it and move on to actually fix the country in a manner that is approved by God.
 

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We readers already know what a useful idiot is lol.




I think it validates my initial debate comments and analysis. I think in a sense the democrats could consider it a minor win to themselves after Biden. I mean Biden's performance was horrendous frankly, in all fairness I think they were just elated that Kamala could form a sentence, so I think there is some truth in that they were genuinely happy with themselves in that. Though indeed in their exhilaration they really let themselves go and show us alot. It's the classic democrat trap we've been talking about for months where they try gaslight everybody but only gaslight themselves. The post-debate show is interesting, indeeed it seems now they have crowed too hard and didn't realize that the debate showed us that they have alot of crow to eat. Trump's final statement and rhetorical question runs deep asking them why the democrats haven't done anything about all this crow they created in 4 years. The solution here is simple, not only to select Trump, but really you need to stroke the democrats down ballot. In an ironic sense it is even in the democrats best interest to get crushed in the elections even wholly downballot because it might be the only way to get them to stop, self-reflect, actually genuinely learn, and repent and rebuild. I don't think they will learn if even just Kamala is defeated because really I mean they very callously put her up there in total mockery to democracy in the first place so they don't really care about her too much except for to beat Trump. They have to be stroked across their whole party and rebuked sharply in order to get them to even question their false ideology-religion actually fix the country in a manner that is approved by God.
These campaigns are billion dollar business, the people running them are very sharp and they understand that they will not impact 80% of voters with this debate. So the issue over whether or not the debate was a success is based on the 20% that they might influence. Both campaigns will have rooms full of these ones with little dials so they can assess how each message from both candidates resonates with them. Networks do the same thing.

So when ABC or some other network is telling you they won, they are trying to influence the jury, not trying to tell you the truth. There are people who do not think for themselves, if they think all the experts think one person did better then they will simply parrot that.

So the idea that they were simply ecstatic because their candidate doesn't have dementia is wishful thinking. They knew from their focus groups that undecided voters wanted to hear certain things from Kamala and she didn't deliver and they knew that the things Trump said were resonating with them, while the things Kamala said were not. Therefore telling us one thing when they knew very well the other, that is called a lie.
 

SonJudgment

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These campaigns are billion dollar business, the people running them are very sharp and they understand that they will not impact 80% of voters with this debate. So the issue over whether or not the debate was a success is based on the 20% that they might influence. Both campaigns will have rooms full of these ones with little dials so they can assess how each message from both candidates resonates with them. Networks do the same thing.

So when ABC or some other network is telling you they won, they are trying to influence the jury, not trying to tell you the truth. There are people who do not think for themselves, if they think all the experts think one person did better then they will simply parrot that.

So the idea that they were simply ecstatic because their candidate doesn't have dementia is wishful thinking. They knew from their focus groups that undecided voters wanted to hear certain things from Kamala and she didn't deliver and they knew that the things Trump said were resonating with them, while the things Kamala said were not. Therefore telling us one thing when they knew very well the other, that is called a lie.
I think both sides can rightly claim the debate as win in context of their base. In context of their bases the Republicans got Trump, i think they wanted him to be more on the offense, but I would suspect they'd still be satisfied with his performance, just because he was on defense he still handled defense very good and it was actually a good way to examine Trump and he proved himself a steady and stable strong leader. For the democrats they can count it as a win for their base, their base is very fractured at the moment and in panic mode especially after Biden's performance in the first debate led to him literally being ousted in front of our faces and Kamala being foisted up there, it validates to them that this trick was worth it. If we look at the debate from the center and the non-aligned though, the proverbial swing voter if you will, well as even some of CNN's own polls in the video I just posted today show that Trump clearly won that. It's simply Kamala didn't really define herself and Trump we already know him and he was able to defend in a way that makes him still look the leader. The more the democrats defend the foreign invaders and villify the American people the more they will be hated and rightly so. It's the familiar trap I been telling you, they try to gaslight everybody but they only ever do gaslight themselves, let them do it, this is the self-defeating cycle of their own making, they can't be taken seriously and the only person that can be taken seriously, the only adult in the room, to turn to is Trump.
 

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I think both sides can rightly claim the debate as win in context of their base. In context of their bases the Republicans got Trump, i think they wanted him to be more on the offense, but I would suspect they'd still be satisfied with his performance, just because he was on defense he still handled defense very good and it was actually a good way to examine Trump and he proved himself a steady and stable strong leader. For the democrats they can count it as a win for their base, their base is very fractured at the moment and in panic mode especially after Biden's performance in the first debate led to him literally being ousted in front of our faces and Kamala being foisted up there, it validates to them that this trick was worth it. If we look at the debate from the center and the non-aligned though, the proverbial swing voter if you will, well as even some of CNN's own polls in the video I just posted today show that Trump clearly won that. It's simply Kamala didn't really define herself and Trump we already know him and he was able to defend in a way that makes him still look the leader. The more the democrats defend the foreign invaders and villify the American people the more they will be hated and rightly so. It's the familiar trap I been telling you, they try to gaslight everybody but they only ever do gaslight themselves, let them do it, this is the self-defeating cycle of their own making, they can't be taken seriously and the only person that can be taken seriously, the only adult in the room, to turn to is Trump.
There are several tells. Immediately after the debate both sides hit on one point. Kamala Campaign hit on "dogs and cats" a trivial issue without even touching on the central point about her handling of the border. The Trump campaign hit on his closing statement asking "if she has all these great plans why hasn't she done them for the last four years?"

That is a big tell, Trump knows that question resonates with everyone, even democrats, whereas Kamala's campaign didn't have anything she said that resonated with them, instead all they had was one trivial point. But they didn't want you actually going to Springfield to investigate, they only wanted it to be a joke.

The second big tell is they asked for a second debate. People who are leading and are incumbents are not interested in having more debates.

So her campaign knew within 24 hours that the debate did not help them and that they are currently losing. They also know there are a number of points that resonated with people for Trump and that his campaign will now use that in upcoming commercials and rallies. Kamala's team has nothing to use. Already the news about Springfield is very embarrassing to Kamala. Think about it, a city of 50,000 with 20,000 of those people being immigrants. Most of us think of the immigrants being 1-2% of the population, not 40%.
 

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There are several tells. Immediately after the debate both sides hit on one point. Kamala Campaign hit on "dogs and cats" a trivial issue without even touching on the central point about her handling of the border. The Trump campaign hit on his closing statement asking "if she has all these great plans why hasn't she done them for the last four years?"

That is a big tell, Trump knows that question resonates with everyone, even democrats, whereas Kamala's campaign didn't have anything she said that resonated with them, instead all they had was one trivial point. But they didn't want you actually going to Springfield to investigate, they only wanted it to be a joke.

The second big tell is they asked for a second debate. People who are leading and are incumbents are not interested in having more debates.

So her campaign knew within 24 hours that the debate did not help them and that they are currently losing. They also know there are a number of points that resonated with people for Trump and that his campaign will now use that in upcoming commercials and rallies. Kamala's team has nothing to use. Already the news about Springfield is very embarrassing to Kamala. Think about it, a city of 50,000 with 20,000 of those people being immigrants. Most of us think of the immigrants being 1-2% of the population, not 40%.
Well indeed. You notice it on almost every issue, not just the border issue. This is where their rigged debate will repay them with interest. Kamala didn't really answer anything directly nor stake out her positions very well, even when the moderators like very obviously tried to give her the softball pitch and give her the perfect set up to do just that. Trump on the other hand, though they held his feet to the fire more, Trump answered everything directly, we already know where Trump stood before, but if anything it just shows that Trump has stayed stable, he has staked his positions long ago and he won't depart from them, and we know what we will get with him and we know Trump's presidency will be good. Kamala is still the candidate of uncertainty and danger, a candidate that doesn't take the problems of the American people seriously, and at the same time she is a candidate that the people cannot take serious and therefore cannot depend on her to rule. The people can take Trump seriously though and Trump will take the American people seriously and not back down even if he is set upon three to one, strong leader.
 

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Well indeed. You notice it on almost every issue, not just the border issue. This is where their rigged debate will repay them with interest. Kamala didn't really answer anything directly nor stake out her positions very well, even when the moderators like very obviously tried to give her the softball pitch and give her the perfect set up to do just that. Trump on the other hand, though they held his feet to the fire more, Trump answered everything directly, we already know where Trump stood before, but if anything it just shows that Trump has stayed stable, he has staked his positions long ago and he won't depart from them, and we know what we will get with him and we know Trump's presidency will be good. Kamala is still the candidate of uncertainty and danger, a candidate that doesn't take the problems of the American people seriously, and at the same time she is a candidate that the people cannot take serious and therefore cannot depend on her to rule. The people can take Trump seriously though and Trump will take the American people seriously and not back down even if he is set upon three to one, strong leader.
Trump knows what to do, forget talking about what you will do and focus on what she has done. Don't ask "what" ask "how".
 

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Would you like to enlighten the readers here on what “useful idiots” means?
Wow. OK lets start at the kindergarten class level.

Boxer is a character from George Orwell's 1945 novel Animal Farm. He is shown as the farm's dedicated and loyal laborer. Boxer serves as an allegory for the Russian working-class who helped to oust Tsar Nicholas and establish the Soviet Union, but were eventually betrayed by the government under Joseph Stalin.

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And the many hapless cannon fodder who will be forced against their will to "participate" in this.
Both of these actors are hard core mega extreme leftists. The leftists LOVE war and destruction.
Which of course is why they HATE Trump.

UK's Starmer, Canada's Trudeau, Pressure Biden To Escalate With Russia Despite Putin Warning Of 'War' With NATO

Kirby: no change as yet to US policy on long-range missiles but Putin's words being taken "seriously"...
 

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Wow. OK lets start at the kindergarten class level.

Boxer is a character from George Orwell's 1945 novel Animal Farm. He is shown as the farm's dedicated and loyal laborer. Boxer serves as an allegory for the Russian working-class who helped to oust Tsar Nicholas and establish the Soviet Union, but were eventually betrayed by the government under Joseph Stalin.

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And the many hapless cannon fodder who will be forced against their will to "participate" in this.
Both of these actors are hard core mega extreme leftists. The leftists LOVE war and destruction.
Which of course is why they HATE Trump.

UK's Starmer, Canada's Trudeau, Pressure Biden To Escalate With Russia Despite Putin Warning Of 'War' With NATO

Kirby: no change as yet to US policy on long-range missiles but Putin's words being taken "seriously"...
This is not my day. I completely forgot that AI bots don’t understand irony lol.
 

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Well Tim Walz's family has released video of creepy Tim Walz crossdressing and dancing for a group of men. Consider also his long record and history of defending and pushing forward all the gay and pedophile stuff. So this is pretty much it, we're going to have Trump as President or we're going to fight, we're not going to be misruled by these wicked people.
 

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mailmandan

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Again?
These people don't get it.
They will only strengthen his resolve and widen his support.
Donald Trump Jr. posted on X, formerly Twitter, that that "An AK-47 was discovered in the bushes, per local law enforcement. ... A suspect has reportedly been apprehended.
 

mailmandan

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All the talk by democrats about Trump and his supporters being a threat to our democracy is sounding very hypocritical right now!
 

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All the talk by democrats about Trump and his supporters being a threat to our democracy is sounding very hypocritical right now!
yes, and their blind hatred of trump has fostered this environment where you have people rooting for trump to get taken out..

so sad.
 

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