Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

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ZNP

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There won't be an uprising from the left. It's the right threatening civil war if they don't win
If the left is outnumbered 5: to 1 as you claim, why can't the right win a popular vote?
Of course not, their riots are mostly peaceful.
 

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There won't be an uprising from the left. It's the right threatening civil war if they don't win
If the left is outnumbered 5: to 1 as you claim, why can't the right win a popular vote?
any proof of " the right threatening a civil war"??

and mainstream media cannot be a source, of proof , they just make stuff up..
 

PennEd

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Sure i have.Americans will decide if they want a dictator in a few days and although he would only have 4 more years,IMO he would NEVER leave the white house with a PEACEFUL transition of power.

To be honest I’m curious,What would he do to America changing it as we know it to be at the present [IMO,] secretly you DO want Donald Trump to become a dictator.
I have to refuse to believe you are this stupid to think Trump would be a dictator.

So I have no other choice but to believe you truly DO have hate in your heart for this man.

And that you think it’s funny that the satanic democrats are actively destroying our democracy by cheating speaks volumes about you.
 

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There were zero riots over Trump winning in 2016
Look how far we have come in 8 years. We now have Russia threatening nuclear war with Ukraine, and two nuclear powers (Israel and Iran) at war. Also if only 5% of the illegals in this country are military that is 1 million military men, twice the number of active military in the US army. 8 years ago no one would have even suggested a civil war, but after 4 years of election denial when Trump was elected with #notmypresident and 4 years of election denial when Biden was elected threats of civil war and nuclear war are common.

Unlike most people who apparently have hope in one candidate or the other I feel that judgment is determined on the US and it is simply a matter of choosing what our punishment will be. I do not place all the blame on Biden nor do I exonerate Trump. The vaccine was made under him, but the real crime was mandating it and that was Biden. Trump was right about HCQ but presented it in such a way he made it very easy to mock and not be taken seriously.

In my opinion our downfall started in 2001 when they had a blank check to make drones and robots. They don't need people to fight their wars anymore so they don't want babies anymore, hence the push to castrate school kids. In a very short time, a year or at the most two unemployment will be way beyond the Great Depression. AI and Tesla bots will be able to replace 50% of the workers at a very economic price.
 
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ZNP

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Look how far we have come in 8 years. We now have Russia threatening nuclear war with Ukraine, and two nuclear powers (Israel and Iran) at war. Also if only 5% of the illegals in this country are military that is 1 million military men, twice the number of active military in the US army. 8 years ago no one would have even suggested a civil war, but after 4 years of election denial when Trump was elected with #notmypresident and 4 years of election denial when Biden was elected threats of civil war and nuclear war are common.

Unlike most people who apparently have hope in one candidate or the other I feel that judgment is determined on the US and it is simply a matter of choosing what our punishment will be. I do not place all the blame on Biden nor do I exonerate Trump. The vaccine was made under him, but the real crime was mandating it and that was Biden. Trump was right about HCQ but presented it in such a way he made it very easy to mock and not be taken seriously.

In my opinion our downfall started in 2001 when they had a blank check to make drones and robots. They don't need people to fight their wars anymore so they don't want babies anymore, hence the push to castrate school kids. In a very short time, a year or at the most two unemployment will be way beyond the Great Depression. AI and Tesla bots will be able to replace 50% of the workers at a very economic price.
People do not understand why there are such outrageous things going on these days like the push to castrate children. The only people that the Antichrist system needs are those who have the brain chip implanted so that they are controlled by AI. If you are not going to take the mark of the beast you are of no use to the Antichrist and the quicker and cheaper that they can execute you the better. The Bible does talk about cannibalism, so I don't know if they will be making soylent green out of the executed people or not, but I certainly wouldn't put it past them. If we would feed cows with dead ground up cows, it is not too much to believe they'll feed ground up people to those with the chip.

They have no expectation that the vaccine or castration is going to accomplish their goal. They simply want to provoke people into saying stuff on social media so that they can classify who will be subservient and who will not be subservient. Also they are not worried about preppers. In a year or so the Antichrist will have complete control over the internet and the media. They could blow up prepper compounds and no one would be the wiser.

You can also forget about silver and gold. They will make it so that you can only buy or sell food if you have the mark and you will be given subsistence rations, so you can't afford to trade for gold or silver. Not only so but they'll make it illegal to own it, so being caught with silver or gold will be considered treason.

This is the end of the age, time is up, make a decision, who are you going to worship. Jesus or Satan.
 

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Look how far we have come in 8 years. We now have Russia threatening nuclear war with Ukraine, and two nuclear powers (Israel and Iran) at war. Also if only 5% of the illegals in this country are military that is 1 million military men, twice the number of active military in the US army. 8 years ago no one would have even suggested a civil war, but after 4 years of election denial when Trump was elected with #notmypresident and 4 years of election denial when Biden was elected threats of civil war and nuclear war are common.

Unlike most people who apparently have hope in one candidate or the other I feel that judgment is determined on the US and it is simply a matter of choosing what our punishment will be. I do not place all the blame on Biden nor do I exonerate Trump. The vaccine was made under him, but the real crime was mandating it and that was Biden. Trump was right about HCQ but presented it in such a way he made it very easy to mock and not be taken seriously.

In my opinion our downfall started in 2001 when they had a blank check to make drones and robots. They don't need people to fight their wars anymore so they don't want babies anymore, hence the push to castrate school kids. In a very short time, a year or at the most two unemployment will be way beyond the Great Depression. AI and Tesla bots will be able to replace 50% of the workers at a very economic price.
As much as I don't like the great orange one, getting the vaccine rolled out quickly is actually to his credit.
You think the vaccine is a bad thing but the data just doesn't show that.
A vaccinated person who gets covid is 10 times less likely die
The majority of the world's population took at least one dose, so if it's as deadly as you keep claiming, we would expect to see a lot more casualties than we did

As for war in Ukraine, that is 100% on Putin for invading a sovereign country.

Funny how there's so much hand wringing from The right over imaginary communism in America but they are against helping stop the spread of real communism in Europe
 

ZNP

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As much as I don't like the great orange one, getting the vaccine rolled out quickly is actually to his credit.
You think the vaccine is a bad thing but the data just doesn't show that.
A vaccinated person who gets covid is 10 times less likely die
The majority of the world's population took at least one dose, so if it's as deadly as you keep claiming, we would expect to see a lot more casualties than we did

As for war in Ukraine, that is 100% on Putin for invading a sovereign country.

Funny how there's so much hand wringing from The right over imaginary communism in America but they are against helping stop the spread of real communism in Europe
Obviously we are looking at very different data to come to these very different conclusions. It is a waste of time to debate this. If I am right you will know by Christmas that the Antichrist system is in full swing.

According to the bible the Antichrist comes to power when the Beast is rising out of the sea. Already AI, Drones, and robots are rising out of the nations. The Bible doesn't say they have "risen" but are rising. At the moment I suspect the army with AI, drones and robots can beat any human army without them. This also is what the Bible says "who can war with them". There is a very clear progression, AI is able to perform a function, then a company buys it, trains it, and replaces that job with robots and AI. We are now seeing fortune 500 companies laying off 5-10% of their workers as they are in the "train the AI" phase. This phase generally takes three months. So the layoffs should really pick up after Christmas.

There is no path to avoid this. Rather, you only have one choice, receive Jesus Christ as your savior or take the mark of the beast so you can eat gruel until you go to hell.
 

Dude653

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Obviously we are looking at very different data to come to these very different conclusions. It is a waste of time to debate this. If I am right you will know by Christmas that the Antichrist system is in full swing.

According to the bible the Antichrist comes to power when the Beast is rising out of the sea. Already AI, Drones, and robots are rising out of the nations. The Bible doesn't say they have "risen" but are rising. At the moment I suspect the army with AI, drones and robots can beat any human army without them. This also is what the Bible says "who can war with them". There is a very clear progression, AI is able to perform a function, then a company buys it, trains it, and replaces that job with robots and AI. We are now seeing fortune 500 companies laying off 5-10% of their workers as they are in the "train the AI" phase. This phase generally takes three months. So the layoffs should really pick up after Christmas.

There is no path to avoid this. Rather, you only have one choice, receive Jesus Christ as your savior or take the mark of the beast so you can eat gruel until you go to hell.
You always have a Doom and gloom spin on literally everything.
 

ZNP

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You always have a Doom and gloom spin on literally everything.
Really? I thought I had a "hallelujah, Jesus is coming!" spin on literally everything.
 

Dude653

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Really? I thought I had a "hallelujah, Jesus is coming!" spin on literally everything.
You. " Everything I don't like is the Antichrist and the world is coming to an end because of it"
 

ZNP

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You. " Everything I don't like is the Antichrist and the world is coming to an end because of it"
Oh, you misunderstand, "Everything that is of the Antichrist is a counterfeit, and Satan's worldly reign is coming to an end, hallelujah!" Does that help?
 

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funny the e coli thing was not a big story until after trump did his thing .

not saying it is not real, just saying the timing of the story blowing up is interesting..

I did not know that there was an E Coli report there. Sounds like a fake news story.....except for the last one I ever ordered coffee at. They must go out of their way to hire drag queens to manage them if that was any indication. Above the counter E coli was a menu item....gross. I will never go to one again to fill my thermos with coffee.
 

ZNP

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There were zero riots over Trump winning in 2016
"the Democrats are the party of weak men and miserable women"


Also characterized by idiots who attack Greek restaurants because they confuse them with Israelis.

It used to be these people would be committed into an institution -- with their "he is out to get me" paranoia.
 

ZNP

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The Democrats are outraged that people are leaving the party!

How can they leave when the Democrats are the most inclusive party (except of course for white people who are all racist), they are the most diverse party (except of course for men who are all toxic). The proof of course is this billionaire claiming he would pull his money out of the market if Harris is elected or this other billionaire giving a million dollars each day to those who sign his petition for Trump. Why are they doing this? Granted the Democrats say all billionaires are evil, but that was simply to guilt them into giving them more money.

Let's be clear, the reason the Democrats are protesting Trump's right to hold a rally at Madison square garden in NYC is because they are defending democracy. Not democracy of NYers to vote for whoever they want, but the democracy of the DNC to appoint the next president.
 

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I refuse to bother discussing with him over this. Some of the things he says are so obstinate and devoid of the truth it is a waste.
A simple fact check is all that is required of him. Apparently that is too much to ask.