The Teachings of Jesus (TOJ)

People feel what they feel. I don’t think anyone wishes that they could have not have peace in our Lord Jesus Christ.
The truth is you have to be “leveled up’’…and many people just aren’t there..

And you’re judging God now… maybe in God’s eyes, they’re the same.. once sin versus 1 trillion Sins is still the same….

Mmhm babes and mature adults need different food at the right time.

“For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭5:12-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

babes are his children also and babes would choke on the meat they need milk …. but at some point they have to eat the meat and potatoes or they won’t bear fruit

But here even the basic milk is turned to vinegar

I am judging that God is just and explaining how by citing appropriate Scripture, whereas you are judging maybe God is just, which implies maybe not without citing any Scriptural support.

I agree with you, but my point still stands many Christians never truly get past past the point of accepting Christ as savior, I called it justified, but never truly sanctified. I look at my own spiritual journey and in my late teens and early 20s I went to church I believe in Jesus as Lord, but never read the Bible and never took it further.

i was never disagreeing with your point was trying to discuss more of the subject .

Back then brother you were only accountable for what you knew. As we grow and learn our standards rise up based on what we know

A man that doesn’t know he’s sinning , and a man that does know he’s sinning have different bars

as we gain knowledge in the lord our accountability goes up.

“And that servant, which knew his Lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes.

For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required:

and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭12:47-48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

In the epistles this also shows itself

“Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.”
‭‭James‬ ‭3:1‬ ‭NIV‬‬

even back then you would have been alright because you didn’t know what you know now but if you went back to acting like then when you didn’t know , now you wouldn’t be okay

I don’t think annihilation is a thing… And I never heard of one reliable Pastor, who said this.

I understand; neither did I because my fallible pastors did not preach the whole Scripture either. I guess they followed the SBC interpretation of GW.

All I can do is encourage you to do what I did and read the Scriptures yourself and think for yourself about what they teach so you might see how these verses indicate how hell is just rather than the eternal suffering of souls who had no chance to hear the Gospel while on earth but are punished as much as Hitler, so please read them and see if you won't agree: JN 17:12, RM 9:22, GL 6:8, PHP 3:19, 2THS 1:9 & 2PT 3:7.

you speak the truth and I will tell you the truth the Holy Spirit revealed to me because of my sin and pornography addition for decades, the Lord Chastened me big time! but I swear, the fear of the Lord.... oh man.. I'm really scared of God the father.

Hebrews 12:6- For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
KJV

Sourgeth! is a freakin scary word...

noun scourge

1. historical
   a whip used as an instrument of punishment.
   Similar:
   whip
   horsewhip
   lash
   strap
   birch
   switch
   flail
2. a person or thing that causes great trouble or suffering:
   "the scourge of mass unemployment"

verb

1. historical
   whip (someone) as a punishment:
   "our people did scourge him severely"
   Similar:
   flog
   whip
   beat
   horsewhip
   lash
   flagellate
2. cause great suffering to:
   "political methods used to scourge and oppress workers"
   Similar:
   afflict
   plague
   torment
   torture
   curse
   oppress

Here is what AI says according to the Bible:


The Bible does not explicitly teach "annihilation," but it does have verses that can be interpreted to suggest that the wicked will face destruction or be consumed in some way. The term "annihilation" generally refers to the idea that people who are not saved will cease to exist rather than suffering eternal torment.

Several passages in the Bible can be understood as supporting this view:

1. Matthew 10:28: "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell." This verse suggests destruction, but it is debated whether it means complete annihilation or a different kind of end.
2. 2 Thessalonians 1:9: "They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might." Some interpreters understand "everlasting destruction" as complete annihilation rather than eternal torment.
3. Revelation 20:14-15: "Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire." The "second death" is interpreted by some as annihilation, where those cast into the lake of fire cease to exist.
4. Romans 6:23: "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Some interpret "death" here as total cessation of existence, contrasting it with eternal life.

However, many traditional Christian teachings hold to the concept of eternal conscious torment for the unrighteous, citing verses like Matthew 25:46 ("Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life") as supporting an ongoing existence of punishment, not annihilation.

Ultimately, the idea of annihilation is not universally accepted, and interpretations vary among different Christian denominations and theological perspectives.

So do you believe God chooses YOU, be saved or you chose God through faith?

I believe God chooses to grace us with the offer of salvation and with the ability to accept or reject that offer, the non-meritorious acceptance of which is called saving faith. PTL!

‘I’m coming around to that conclusion… like there are 3 billion people in China and India alone. Only 2%.Christianity; generational curses. Why the 2% …why not the others… only God knows.,

TOJ #50: Love God more than anything or anyone. [MT 8:20-22//LK 8:60-62] This is the greatest TOJ or commandment. {MT 22:37-38} Loving God more than money or material things (TOJ #38) seems to be the point of Jesus’ comment to the first man. Regarding the second man, Jesus would have been unkind (LK 6:35) to deny him permission to attend his father’s funeral. Thus, I agree with those who think his father was still alive, and he wanted to delay making a commitment to follow Jesus.

The account in Luke shows that perhaps Jesus detected a wavering desire to follow Him at all. Such ambivalence is portrayed in the Parable of the Great Banquet {LK 14:16-24; also see v.26-33.} As Paul wrote (in 2CR 6:2): “Now is the time of God’s favor, now is the day of salvation.” (See HB 3:15, 4:7 & TOJ #62.) Another illustration of this truth is the brief allusion {in LK 10:41-42} to the different priorities of Mary (LGW) and Martha (housekeeping). The woman who anointed Jesus with perfume also showed her great devotion {MT 26:10-13//MK 14:6-9//JN 12:7}.

TOJ #51: Also have working faith. [MT 8:10&26//MK 4:40//LK 8:25] In addition to having saving Faith, Believers should trust God to provide for their earthly needs (TOJ #35). Jesus commended the centurion for his great faith, but He reproved the disciples and later {MT 14:31-33} Peter in particular for having too little faith that He could save them from drowning. Also, Jesus commended the sick woman {MT 9:22//MK 5:34; also see MT 15:28} and blind men {MT 9:27-29} for their faith that He would help them.

We see that ideally and eventually qualitative Faith in God or the kerygma (TOJ #8) includes a “great” quantity of faith in didachaic parts of God’s Word as it is learned. {MT 17:17-20, LK 17:6} This truth is beautifully conveyed by a man’s prayer, “I do believe [have Faith]; help me overcome my unbelief [lack of faith]!” (MK 9:24)

Unbelief cannot limit God’s power, although it may blind one to perceiving it (MK 6:5), and illness is not necessarily due to a person’s sins or lack of faith (TOJ #190). Jesus’ statement {in MT 17:20//MK 9:23} that nothing will be impossible is related to TOJ #119. Regarding receiving “whatever you ask for” {MT 21:21-22//MK 11:23-24}, we should remember TOJ #34.

The type of miracle God desires to perform is not moving mountains into seas, but rather transforming souls (RM 12:2, EPH 3:14-20), so they may move into heaven. Thus, Jesus encourages His disciples to ask for spiritual miracles {JN 14:14} such as the power to love {JN 15:7&16}, for resurrection to eternal joy {JN 16:24} and for true knowledge about God {JN 16:26}.