the Sabbath

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Pasifika said:
It states that a covenant cannot put into effect without shedding of blood.. Hebrews 9:18,19
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Luke 22:
19And He took the bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body, given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 20In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is poured out for you
 
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vassal said:
@Inquisitor @ChristRoseFromTheDead @GWH @Gideon300 @Pasifika
"These people who are encouraging you to follow the Sabbath and God’s commandments are actually doing you a big favor. They're trying to help you reconnect with the teachings of Jesus, which many seem to have forgotten. You might know the basics about Jesus, like how He died for our sins, but there’s so much more to His message. He also called us to follow Him, yet many choose to follow other paths instead. It's worth reconsidering where that leads you and whether you're truly following His example."
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I am connected to Jesus already. I know His teachings. It's a shame that sabbath obsessed focus only on a few.
 
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Gideon300 said:
I'm not one to say that the majority is always right. It's not true for a start. However, Seventh Day Adventists and their ilk have been pushing their Saturday sabbath and legalistic interpretation since the denomination started.

It was promoted by E.G. White, who saw a vision of the commandment highlighted, supposedly by God. The problem is that Christ introduced the New Covenant in His precious blood, where the Law and commandments have been superseded by the Law of the Spirit of Life in Him.

It is wrong for Christians to sow discord. I don't argue with an Anglican baby sprinkler. He has some valid arguments to support his theology. I don't agree, but I'd rather keep quiet than ruin fellowship. He's friendlier than any other pastor I've met in my area. He does not try to justify his baby sprinkling to me either.

Too many Christians fight over non-issues. KJV only. OSAS, the rapture, end times, who the antichrist is, the shape of the globe, various conspiracies etc. Meanwhile, 170,000 people die each day, many going to to hell, some wondering why Christians are so divided.

I have some time to put my point of view, which I can justify from God's word. I do not expect to change the mind of those who are pushing their particular barrow. I do hope to put a Biblical counter view for the sake of those who might be persuaded by the barrow pushers.
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My reason for sharing my fallible faith with folks is hoping they will find what I have learned from infancy helpful for understanding ultimate truth and we will have fellowship. When I encounter someone who has a contradictory understanding, I want to learn which is the better belief, to admit when I am wrong, and then amend my website! (2TM 3:14-4:2, 1JN 1:3 :^)
 
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rrcn said:
Jesus quoted Deut:
[Deu 6:5 KJV] 5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
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[Lev 19:18 KJV] 18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I [am] the LORD.
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Good one. Now tell me how you obey those commandments. The problem is not with the law, but with the people who are required to keep it. It's not even that the commandments are too hard. It is quite simply that there is nothing in the heart of man that wants to obey God. Only a new nature will suffice, as God said through Ezekiel.

Even God's elite, King David committed murder and adultery. He knew the law thoroughly, but that did not enable him to keep it.
 
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CS1 said:
Did Abraham have the sabbath day
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No. The sabbath day commandment was given at Horeb (Sinai) only to those who were there. Specifically not to Abraham nor any patriarch.

Deut 5: “The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive.”
 
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Gideon300 said:
Luke 22:
19And He took the bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is My body, given for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” 20In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is poured out for you
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Bread and cup points to His body and blood before His sacrificial death (symbolism). But the actual covenant comes to effect on the cross.

As in Hebrews 8:16,17.."in the case of a covenant or will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, because a covenant/will is in force only when somebody has died, it never takes effect while the one who made it is living"..
 
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Aaron56 said:
No. The sabbath day commandment was given at Horeb (Sinai) only to those who were there. Specifically not to Abraham nor any patriarch.

Deut 5: “The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3 The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive.”
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correct.

though some refuse to see it.
 
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