the Sabbath

The 10 are be able to keep under these commandments of Love God and Neighbours

It’s just common sense, rather trust AI than what prayerfully study and trust God’s Word. He says to seek Him with all our heart, is when we will find Him, not seek a computer program.

yes one sided..its ALL Gods work. so no boasting but give thanks to Him

the criminal next to the cross was saved because he repented! and also it is Jesus who decides, ie. judges, being one with GOD he can do what he wants, it was his will.

A bit more than that, the greatest commandment was forgotten, omitted by Paul who you follow. Jesus however says this;

Mat 22:36 “Teacher, which commandment is the greatest in the Law?”
Mat 22:37 Jesus declared, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’
Mat 22:38 This is the first and greatest commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’
Mat 22:40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

DO not forget the greatest commandment, to love GOD above all else.

no boasting? tell that to the one you follow so closely, Apostle Paul.

The Sabbath is to observe under the NC way then it will be able to be observed. but not the Old way

You reject The Apostle Pauls writing you reject Christ teachings.

@Beckworth
I don't see scriptures in your post, so I am going to go by this is your opinion.

I fully disagree- God identified His law as plainly as He could possibly be. God wrote it with His own finger on stone Exo 31:18 He spoke it with His own voice Exo 20:1 He numbered them by design Exo 34:28 Deut 4:16 He said no more was added to His Ten Commandments Deut 5:22 and then right in this unit of Ten that He wrote and He spoke He collectively called them "My commandments" I don't think there was much more God could have done to express His will for mankind Psa 40:8. If He can't name His own commandments - then whose authority do we go by? Is there someone greater than God? I am not aware of anyone else who is greater than God and God put His signature right in the Sabbath commandment- showing His name (Lord thy God) Title -(Creator)- and Territory (Heaven and Earth) So in the Ten Commandments- God connects them to Creation Exo 20:11 so they started at Creation because where there is no law there is no sin and Adam and Eve sinned and God Himself connected His comamndments to Creation.

You claim there were not taught in the NT, does Jesus, who is God not have the same authority in your opinion? Who is greater than Jesus? Did He teach we can break the least of these commandments or did He keep them all including the Sabbath for our example if w also abide in Him 1 John 2:5-6 John 15:10.

Lets see what Jesus taught...in His own Words


Mat 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

21 “You have heard that it was said to those [d]of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother [e]without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’[f] shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, [g]‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of [h]hell fire. 23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny.


27 “You have heard that it was said [i]to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to [j]sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to [k]sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

Jesus not only doesn't want us to break the least of these commandments He doesn't even want us to have the thoughts that lead to the action of doing so.

Where are the least of these commandments Jesus told us not to break? Right from the Ten Commandments
The Ten Commandments
20 And God spoke all these words, saying:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of [a]bondage.
3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor [b]serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting[c] the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath



Yes, indeed, let’s see what Jesus says in His own words: Matthew 5 which you quoted but left out an important part—verse 18. Jesus says that not one word of the old law shall pass away UNTILL—do you see that?? That is a time indicator. Until WHEN? Until the old Jewish law was fulfilled. Jesus said He came to fulfill the law. When Jesus died on the cross all of the Old Testament prophecy concerning him was fullfilled. Like Isaiah 53 and all of the Messianc prophecies in the Old Testament. This harmonizes completely with Col. 2:14 where it says He nailed it to His cross. And all of the scriptures in Hebrews that tell about the old law being “obsolete” and vanishing away”, “taking away the first so that He might establish the second”, bringing in a new and living way.

What you do not understand is that Jesus taught the Jews of His day to keep the old law. They were required to keep it. He did not tell them to break their own law. So, of course He told them to keep the Old Testament commandments. It was necessary for THEM to be saved—but it is NOT NECESSARY for us to be saved —or anyone after His death on the cross. Christ freed us from the BONDAGE of those old commandments, which were represented by Hagar, the concubine of Moses. We, in Christ are children of Sarah, the free woman. Galations 4. Paul says the old Jewish law was like a tutor to bring us to Christ, but once Christ had come WE Are NO LONGER UNDER A TUTOR. Also, in Galations. That means we are no longer under the old law.

the criminal next to the cross was saved because he repented! and also it is Jesus who decides, ie. judges, being one with GOD he can do what he wants, it was his will.

the criminal next to the cross was saved because he repented! and also it is Jesus who decides, ie. judges, being one with GOD he can do what he wants, it was his will.

The million dollar question is whether the Gentile dogs need to obey the law also.

Were the gentiles in covenant to obey the law?

Did the Gentiles receive the law, the temple, the Patriarchs, the sacrifices, the sabbath, ...

@Beckworth
I don't see scriptures in your post, so I am going to go by this is your opinion.

I fully disagree- God identified His law as plainly as He could possibly be. God wrote it with His own finger on stone Exo 31:18 He spoke it with His own voice Exo 20:1 He numbered them by design Exo 34:28 Deut 4:16 He said no more was added to His Ten Commandments Deut 5:22 and then right in this unit of Ten that He wrote and He spoke He collectively called them "My commandments" I don't think there was much more God could have done to express His will for mankind Psa 40:8. If He can't name His own commandments - then whose authority do we go by? Is there someone greater than God? I am not aware of anyone else who is greater than God and God put His signature right in the Sabbath commandment- showing His name (Lord thy God) Title -(Creator)- and Territory (Heaven and Earth) So in the Ten Commandments- God connects them to Creation Exo 20:11 so they started at Creation because where there is no law there is no sin and Adam and Eve sinned and God Himself connected His comamndments to Creation.

You claim there were not taught in the NT, does Jesus, who is God not have the same authority in your opinion? Who is greater than Jesus? Did He teach we can break the least of these commandments or did He keep them all including the Sabbath for our example if w also abide in Him 1 John 2:5-6 John 15:10.

Lets see what Jesus taught...in His own Words


Mat 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

21 “You have heard that it was said to those [d]of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother [e]without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’[f] shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, [g]‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of [h]hell fire. 23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny.


27 “You have heard that it was said [i]to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to [j]sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to [k]sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

Jesus not only doesn't want us to break the least of these commandments He doesn't even want us to have the thoughts that lead to the action of doing so.

Where are the least of these commandments Jesus told us not to break? Right from the Ten Commandments
The Ten Commandments
20 And God spoke all these words, saying:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of [a]bondage.
3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor [b]serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting[c] the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
13 “You shall not murder.
14 “You shall not commit adultery.
15 “You shall not steal.
16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

Because in doing so, breaking the least of these, one will be least in heaven and following a path to a ditch.

Mat 15:3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6 then he need not honor his father [a]or mother.’ Thus you have made the [b]commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. 7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about



All of the scripture from Ezra and Isaiah and even Mark is addressing Hews still living under the old law. Christ had not died yet. The law had not been fulfilled. It had not been changed yet. So it is no surprise that Jesus would tell them they must keep their law. That is not talking to gentiles or Christians. The followers of Christ were not even called Christians until Acts 11–so this is not for Christians or Gentiles—only Jews were being told to do this because it is their law. The point is that Hesus was talking to Jews living before the death of Jesus on the cross. He was NIT talking to us gentile Christians living after the death of Jesus. Matthew 5:18, Hebrews 9:16-17, and Col. 2:14-16 are plain and all day that the law changed when Jesus fullfilled it by dying on the cross. Jesus said “it is finished” and the veil in the temple tore into, signifying the end of the old law.

2 Cor. 3:14 Paul says, “But their minds were blinded, for untill this day, the same veil remains UNLIFTED in the reading of the OLD TESTAMENT. Because the veil is lifted in Christ.” There are none so blind as those who will not see.

You reject The Apostle Pauls writing you reject Christ teachings.

Isn't repentance an act of faith?

Isn't repentance an act of faith?

Happy thanksgiving everyone, I will see you In a few days, be good to one another like God is good to us all, lets take time to thank him for his generosity.


Cameron,
Repentance and faith are deeply interconnected, and the relationship between them can sometimes seem like a "which comes first" question.
However, they are often seen as two sides of the same coin in a spiritual journey.
Repentance can be viewed as an act of faith because it requires believing in God’s truth and responding to His call to turn away from sin. At the same time, faith often precedes repentance because one must first believe in God's existence, goodness, and authority to truly repent.

Faith may come first as the foundation. Believing in God and His promises creates the trust and conviction necessary for someone to see their need for repentance. As a result, genuine repentance turning away from sin and toward God is both an expression and an outworking of that faith. For example, someone cannot turn from sin in a meaningful way without believing that God is real, holy, and merciful.

I know where you want to lead this discussion but Know the main message of Jesus was to preach repentance and the Kingdom of Heaven. One can have faith but if there is no repentance, what is the use for that person having faith. I believe Faith in GOD has a purpose.

True faith involves not just believing in God's existence and promises but also responding to His call for a transformed life. Repentance is the fruit of genuine faith—it shows that the heart has been humbled, convicted, and aligned with God's will.

Blessings and Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.

But he did. That which has become useless by virtue of being replaced by something superior is void. The law was the only thing against us.

Abolished
G2673 καταργέω katargeo (kat-ar-ǰe'-ō) v.
1. to be entirely idle (useless).
2. to render entirely idle (useless).

You are following an old interpretation of the scripture that is incorrect.

Your not standing for the Bible.

Romans did not have a day off they worked seven days a week.

Not until Constantine in the fourth century did Rome get a day off to go to church.

So the Romans were not the ones who introduced church on Sunday.

The Jews rested on the sabbath and they did not go to church on Sunday.

So who started Sunday worship?

A sabbath rest day is not a church day.

No synagogue in the world has ever worshiped Jesus!

No synagogue in the world has ever worshiped Jesus!

If I may, we are to follow Jesus not Paul. Paul's Epistles,aka letters, were in two forms.

Those he said were communications from Jesus. And those that today would be identified as journal entries or,personal observations.

Jesus was perfect. The living example of living on the holiness path,as some call it.

Paul,by his own admissions was not.