Is there a difference.....

But major, if i were to agree with you for a moment and say that the Bible says that we need to kill murderers then this applies to all kinds of scenarios including guns, correct?
But also major, you said that the best option that you advocate is for the murderer to work for the family correct?

I think all you've done here is restate your previous argument... so I'm not going to comment.

I believe you have only the best intentions: so any criticism I gave previously was only against your theory, not against you personally.
Hope you have a great day.


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Yes, that is my preference if possible, but I don't see anyone talking about the punishment for abortionists unless I bring it up.

Good point.
So, what do you have in mind in the punishment department major?

LACK OF DATA:

The NUMBER of articles reporting this is irrelevant; they all cite a singular original report, that no one is willing to show us.
Suspicious?



Each Article Listed Above - showing no verifiable data:
(Bit of quick investigative journalism.)


Article #1 - The Newsweek Article
Newsweek cites a report from the Society of Family Planning, but never shows the report, and never links to the report.
The source of this unseen report, The Society of Family Planning, is an extremely biased organization that exists solely to PROMOTE and ADVOCATE for ABORTION.
From their website:
OUR VISION: "We believe in just and equitable abortion..."
* Recap: Newsweek cited a report that came from an entirely biased abortion advocacy group; the report was never shown, and never linked to... so no one could see it.

Article #2 - Guttmacher Article:
Guttmacher is an organization that exists solely to promote abortion; this is expressed right on their website.
Guttmacher is the only media source in this list that used their own research.
So how did their research go?
* They claimed abortion went up after Roe-v-Wade was overturned, and they presented a chart. But the chart didn't show this at all. In fact, the FINE PRINT UNDER THE CHART... LITERALLY ADMITS THEY HAVE NO DATA FOR THE PERIOD IN QUESTION.
* They literally just made stuff up... but you have to read the fine print.

Article #3 - PBS Article:
PBS is well known to be leftist in ideology, and here it merely quoted the same Report from the Society of Family Planning, which is a pro-abortion organization. PBS cited this report, but neither showed it nor gave a link to it, insuring no one can view the actual report. (The leftist media uses this tactic a lot, citing sources they never show you.)

Article #4 - Medical Xpress Article:
Medical xpress merely quoted the same report from the Society of Family Planning, the pro-abortion organization. Once again, the report itself is not shown, and there is no link going to the report. There is no way for anyone to see the actual report, and thus no way for anyone to verify or falsify the data.


GENESIS OF THIS STORY?
The origin of this story seems to to trace back to a pro-abortion PRESS RELEASE put out by ConwayStrategic, a progressive lobbying group... professional, full time, leftist lobbyists. In this press release they give some info, curated info, from the aforementioned report by The Society of Family Planning (a pro-abortion organization). But even in this press release, the original report is STILL NEVER SHOWN. The original report is never shown, and never given a link. NO ONE on the left seems to want anyone to see the actual report. This makes me suspicious that there may be some funny business with the gathering of statistics.





CONCLUSION:
1.) Almost all articles simply cite the same original report... which they all refuse to show.
2.) If no one will show the original report, and no one will give a link to it, it makes me question whether the data, and claims, are entirely accurate.
3.) It IS POSSIBLE that all these claims are entirely true.
4.) However, until the proponents are forthcoming with both the report, and the methods of data collection, we have every reason to remain skeptical.

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Still stuck with the thumbs up emoji. But this is truly informative, than you for sussing this out. We certainly know that the left keeps to talking points religiously. If you hear from one, you will hear it from the other thirty. They are good at sticking to their propaganda and not wavering no matter how big the lie is. As we are now seeing with the findings of where the Corona Virus came from. One lies and the other swears to it. You'd make a better journalist than any one of the MSM.

Well, I sincerely hope it didn't put you to sleep, lol.

And I'm not saying the report is false; I'm just saying we have no reason to believe the report until we can see the report, and see how the data is extrapolated.

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I don't know about better, but I do believe we can pretty much pinpoint when a baby feels pain. I think if we can prove that point, beyond what the liberals are saying, but truly prove when the baby feels pain, it would be all over. I believe all other arguments would be a moot point.

Good point.
So, what do you have in mind in the punishment department major?

I felt pain as soon as I came out from my mom's womb. The person that delivered me slapped me!
What? And then pain took a spot in me to accept, not accept to go along or not, Bewildered until God himself revealed himself in God's spirit and Truth through Son's done work
I had to learn new, still learning as I think all are, whether admit to that or not.
You see when I had my first confrontation with authority, And our under Law, I became rebellious, whether others saw that or not. Then kept being taught to be independent
I got lost. Then when I saw to be Inner-dependant on God the father of the risen Son Jesus, things started changing, seeing new fro my Father's view to me through Son Jesus fro em to love all over the few this world only teaches to love those that love you back others can go to _________
Not true for me anymore, Inner Dependent now, daily seeing it in thanksgiving and praise over getting forgiven at that cross before ever born here on earth that I did not see, when taught I better or else attitudes of flesh people, as I still can be, so I see to not accuse or abuse anyone after reading Romans 2:1-4
Thanks me just venting

We need to oppress the left, free speech isn't for enemies.

Opposing abortion is fine, but don't be ideological. Power is about friends and enemies, not ethics. Politics is war, not reason. If your options are between the pro-slavery emperor who tolerates Christians and the pro-slavery emperor who doesn't, you always pick the former. Otherwise, just stay out of politics.
Principles never won an election or a war.
Abortion is not going to be banned, wars will not stop being wasted unjustly, and as long as we're bereft of powerful friends we won't be able to do anything about it. If you refuse to support the lesser evil because of some single issue nonsense, you're just going to lose everything.
This doesn't just go for abortion, but for Boomer conservative politics in general. We need to oppress the left, free speech isn't for enemies.
Your stance on abortion matters when you have an army and judges willing to execute people who get them. Until then, it's just virtue signaling and a scam for fund raising.

I'm convinced that the practice of abortion goes far deeper than one can imagine.
It's not only terminating a life but the reasons for it.
Stem cell research for example. Which is in demand. Are there people out there getting paid to bring a fetus to a certain term and collect the reward?
I'm sure there are multiple studies we are not aware of that may be associated with this practice.
Giving rights to a minor to have the choice and not inform the parents is very alarming.
Under the guise as a medical procedure it is protected by the Hippa law therefore thwarting any investigations into such findings.
To say it is a form of birth control is simply idiotic. It is a quagmire of things that are complicated by laws and rights that has to be dismantled.

Re "Abortion is not going to be banned, wars will not stop...": So true, and this is true with regard to every type of problem or category of sin, such as poverty and sexual perversion, but it is also true that Jesus urges us to pray for the KOG to come on earth by Christians being salt and light to the world, and Paul urges us to share/manifest the HS's love.

I believe in capital punishment for abortion, but we're so far from that being possible that it's pointless to discuss outside individual outreach, theory, and theology. At present, most of America is joyfully riding towards Hell and the only way we will get anything our way is decentralization or a dictatorship. Nobody has the qualifications to be Cromwell, so taking over our local governments is the only real option.

Question for all here. If it were not know how God felt about abortion would you still feel the same way you do now?