Why Doesn't Anything FIll the Mainline Void in the Northeast US?

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Dec 27, 2024
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Theologically liberal and mainline churches are experiencing long term and serious decline. What's not as well known is that fundamentalist, Evangelical and stricter Confessional churches are actually growing. Not only that, but it's not even: in the Northeast it seems nothing replaced the mainline churches. But in the northwest and Arizona there are tons of little churches picking up the mission field. The fastest-growing churches in America are located in the Western states, including the Northwest, and are often conservative or evangelical in their theology.

In my area, there are pseudo-Christian cults and self-help seminars disguised as churches, focusing more on leftist politics or wealth than the Bible. Despite—or perhaps because of—this environment, strongly Bible-centered churches are flourishing. For instance, the Orthodox Presbyterian Church I attend has doubled in size since 2015. Within a reasonable drive, there are at least fourteen churches, including Primitive Baptist, Independent Fundamental Baptist, Particular Baptist, OPC, Protestant Reformed Church in America, and RCUS congregations.

It seems that here in the Northwest, when mainline churches decline, biblically focused churches emerge to fill the void. This contrasts with the Northeast, where such a resurgence appears less common.

Why is this the case? Is it because people in the Northeast are more tied to traditional mainline denominations? Does the West's history of establishing small, independent churches since the 19th century play a role? Could the Northwest's culture of religious individualism and the tendency of conservative churches to position themselves as countercultural also contribute to this phenomenon?
 

shittim

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He is calling his Own to Him from all kindred's and tongues at this end of the end times.
Most mainline churches miss the mark.
 

maxwel

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It seems that here in the Northwest, when mainline churches decline, biblically focused churches emerge to fill the void. This contrasts with the Northeast, where such a resurgence appears less common.
Regarding the Northeast, I think it's just indicative of the spiritual condition of that region, which we can also see reflected in the culture and politics of the region.

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Regarding the Northeast, I think it's just indicative of the spiritual condition of that region, which we can also see reflected in the culture and politics of the region.

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I don't disagree, but Seattle isn't exactly a bastion of traditionalism. In some ways it's a weirder version of progressivism than is typical in the East, which is more establishment than radical. On the other hand, the West has always had a part of the population that adheres to frontier American values, which is Protestant and libertarianish.
 
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I am in Columbus Ohio. Alot of mainstream churches here have died. the church I grew up and and spent the first 1/4 of my life in is closed. I see many churches in smaller town, and even in my own city closed. large empty building.

I also see many non denominational church popping up everywhere ( I believe to one, we have an active membership of over 6000 and have 5 meeting places all over the city) I have seen others also. some of them are ok. Some of them are just a new movement focusing on the younger generation.

I do believe we are witnessing the falling away mentioned in the word. as the love of many are growing cold.
 
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I am in Columbus Ohio. Alot of mainstream churches here have died. the church I grew up and and spent the first 1/4 of my life in is closed.
The PCA has been a mixed bag for decades - they had R. C. Sproul but also some very PCUSA-like liberals. There are still good PCA churches, but the ones near me had simply collapsed on catechism and discipline. I did not want to change churches in the first place, but since I went to the OPC a lot of people I knew there have left the church, sometimes for Fundamentalist churches.
I also see many non denominational church popping up
"Non-denominational" is a nonsense claim (most of them are General Baptist Churches in reality), though some of them are Gospel churches. I'll append some short videos at the end that explain some of these points. Although I am a Baptist in a very high church Baptist.
I do believe we are witnessing the falling away mentioned in the word. as the love of many are growing cold.
I understand this, but I don't agree for a variety of reasons. One is because I'm postMil (and frankly think AMil collapses into the same thing in practice). I don't know when Jesus will return, but I see no reason to think that hypocrisy and apostasy are anything new, in the world or the church.
 
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The PCA has been a mixed bag for decades - they had R. C. Sproul but also some very PCUSA-like liberals. There are still good PCA churches, but the ones near me had simply collapsed on catechism and discipline. I did not want to change churches in the first place, but since I went to the OPC a lot of people I knew there have left the church, sometimes for Fundamentalist churches.

"Non-denominational" is a nonsense claim (most of them are General Baptist Churches in reality), though some of them are Gospel churches. I'll append some short videos at the end that explain some of these points. Although I am a Baptist in a very high church Baptist.
I grew up Baptist. That church is gone. I was a Baptist until my mid 30’s. My church had a nothing like the Baptist church. Most if the non demons I see the Baptist church would reject. So it’s not the same here
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I understand this, but I don't agree for a variety of reasons. One is because I'm postMil (and frankly think AMil collapses into the same thing in practice). I don't know when Jesus will return, but I see no reason to think that hypocrisy and apostasy are anything new, in the world or the church.
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It is here in the eastern us. The apostasy is rampant. Especially in blue cities where lgbtq plus and other liberal views are rampant. My only hope is we finally see people Sick of the woke nonsense. But it is not causing the church to grow