Turkish Christian looking for advice

Simple research that you won't give us. :-D

Here is something you can read and then you can go and see for yourself, we live in a time where we can look up everything, we have no excuses.

but to answer what you said.

The deuterocanonical books were not added by the Catholic Church; rather, they have been part of the Christian canon since the early Church. The Council of Rome in A.D. 382, under Pope Damasus I, affirmed the inclusion of these books. The Protestant Reformation led to their removal, not their addition by Catholics.

The Septuagint, a Greek translation of Hebrew Scriptures used by early Christians, included these books. Jesus and the Apostles often quoted from the Septuagint, indicating its acceptance
(e.g., Hebrews 11:35 references 2 Maccabees). The Church Fathers, like Saint Augustine, also recognized these books. The Catholic Church maintains the canon as it was historically received, aligning with the tradition of the early Church.

And
you can research the reference given under each of the quotes I posted.
Clement, St. Hilary and St. John Crysostom quoted Baruch which is just one of the books I randomly picked that isn't in the protestant Bible.
they quoted it just like they Quoted Matthew.
and they wrote those quotes between A.D 215-407 when they lived.
which means Christians at that time recognised it.

Well that's another lie from you.

But, it would be better for you to research for yourself. I am not your mother that I should spoon feed you.

Unless you insist and/or persist in acting like a spoiled child...

So in case you are attached to being a brat:

Almost all the early Christian canonical lists of OT books limited the number to 22, which more or less equals the modern Protestant reckoning of 39 books. For how 22 = 39, see this good handout prepared by Tyler Williams and follow these steps: (1) start with the Protestant canon of 39 books; (2) note that it contains the same books as the Jewish canon of 24 books, just arranged differently; (3) using the Jewish canon of 24 books, count Lamentations with Jeremiah and Ruth with Judges; (4) notice that you now have 22 books. The number 22 is first attested in Josephus (CA 1.37–41), although R.H. Charles argued for its presence already in Jubilees about 2 ½ centuries earlier (see his The Book of Jubilees, 1902; also see the criticism by James VanderKam, From Revelation to Canon, 2000, pp. 18–19). source

"FIGHT! Everyone! Fight in the quad!"

If people do not want to be called liars they should not tell lies.

Perhaps you would prefer I mince my words. Surely you can get that elsewhere.

Yet you can't disprove it, because its truth
its easily available for anyone to research, if they have the courage and loves the truth...
i was a protestant too like you, I read only 66 books, until I started researching the early church and Church history in general.

If you do the same research you will come to the truth, but you need to research facts, not what other people say, that's why I gave you information and told you to check it out yourself.

I pray that God will show you the truth, if you want it

God bless ❤️

The Catholic church added the apocrypha to the Bible. I suppose they had reason to since those books support
some of their heresies, and others found the the collection useful historically, theologically, and spiritually.

If you want to consider them inspired you would be going against what they claim of themselves.

And I already did disprove your lie.

Calling me a liar, does not make me sad, because what I said was not a lie, but facts that anyone can research, it was merely you stating It was a lie.
But you on the other hand put nothing on the table.

If I have the truth I want everyone to know it, I won't hide it.

No I actually thought your response to him was just fine the way it was

Again, that's merely a statement, not a fact.

The deuterocanonical was not added, but was part of the early Church.

And as I said, Jesus often quoted from the septuagint which included those books. a simple research can show you this.

maybe you are not ready for the truth.

once I was like you, saying the exact same things, until I actually did the research myself without no one influencing me

Don't mind me. It's my birthday and I'm drinking a White Claw and a coffee lol just waiting for this evening to begin

God bless you, one day you will understand if you seek the truth ❤️

They've been diddling little boys for as long as I could remember

Probably before that as well. Let's just call it centuries. Any ways...

According to historical accounts, the the apocryphal books were not accepted as inspired.
The Apocryphal and Pseudepigraphical writings were preserved in the Catholic Bible but
not canonized in the Hebrew Bible due to a number of reasons, starting with their questionable authorship
or authenticity. They were all written during a time (400 years) between the two testaments when it was
acknowledged there were no prophets, and no direct revelation from God. The New Testament Jews never
included them in any Jewish collection of Scriptures, so contrary to people believing that books have been
removed from the Bible, the opposite is actually true: books have been added. During New Testament times,
without argument or qualification, a commonly understood body of books was in existence which the Jews
recognized to be the sacred and authorized Scriptures. What is known as the Apocrypha was not among them.

The Apocrypha contains a great variety of errors – historical, geographical, chronological, and moral,
and promotes doctrines which contradict the Bible. Without these apocryphal books, the Roman Catholic
Church would have absolutely NO support for their doctrines of purgatory, praying for the dead, and offering
sacrifices for the dead (indulgences was a significant reason for the reformation). The inclusion of the
Apocrypha in the original printing of the King James Bible was strictly for historical reasons.

Welcome Murat! Do you have access to a Bible? The best way to learn about and to grow in Christ is to spend time in prayer and in reading the Word of God (the Bible). The New Testament would be a good place to start. Be wary of religions, so many will lead you astray. Being a Believer, a Member of the Body of Christ, is a personal relationship between you and Jesus, and Jesus will speak to you through His Word (the Bible). Start with the first chapter of the gospel of John, the fourth book in the New Testament portion of the Bible. You're right, there is a lot on false/crazy information about Christianity on the internet, there's even some on this site. That's why it is best to nurture a personal relationship with Jesus.

I think the first week I was on here last year, I learned about reformation day and the person who made that happen. The truth that I got from it told me everything I needed to know, to understand further, the corruption of the catholic church.

But really, ever since I was born, I've seen nonstop news stories about Catholics grooming and diddling little boys. I think if more people brought that to the light, it might make them think twice about where they bring their children, eventually thinning out Catholicism and hopefully ending it all together.

No worries, I should have added both his and your post, so it didn't seem like I was targeting one person.

White Claw is basically a spritzer with 5 percent alcohol. I never drink, so I thought I'd buy a 6 pack to make the day a little more exciting lol

become a born again Christian immediately. when someone is born again, the Holy Spirit is living with you for the remainder of your life, leading, comforting & guiding you thru life. also, He shows you the truth. you will begin to see revelation of god's truths. too, Jesus died on the cross for the removal of your sins. get a Nelson King James study Bible, they have excellent study helps. because we are living in the new Testament, start reading there. James is an excellent "life lesson" book. also, for starters, read the gospel of John, 1st John, & Romans.

Dont worry much this behavior is very typical of him. He is not bad person, he can be stupid and annoying at times but this is his personality and he did the questions in sarcastic tone without expressing hate or resentment. But İ have to admit my brother is big Turkish nationalist, not the İslamic type but the secular Kemalist type, he considers İslam an Arab cult that keeps the country poor and corrupt but he respects other peoples believes and İ know he is not the type of guy that goes intentionally hurting people