Salvation Lost? Really?

If I sin I acknowledge it and continue on. God's grace is big enough for my imperfections as I grow into his fullness

The Jews were not required to observe the law either. They did so because it was their culture. Everything was fulfilled in Christ. You are simply proclaiming another gospel and are subject to being accursed by Paul

yes, me seeing this
I go to a church as I am deaf, I see people moving around and I start to imitate them to be in with them, yet do not understand a thing, but to be a part of them accepted by them as if I got it, when I don't
Thanks brother for your insights they are helping me to see clearly, knowing that I am not in a redeemed body of flesh, it is dead. I am still in process learning this truth from Father and Son.
To be alive in my soul that Father gives to us all that are sincere, no wishing to harm anyone over their own causes
God provides, I see to act, react, my wage over my thoughts

The lost salvation folks have a real task on their hands, because that belief system demands that sins have a measure in relation to salvation, with some not being a danger to salvation, and others being a grave and destructive force to one's salvation. I can't get them to define where that line of distinction rests. Some turn to roman catholicism's false teachings about an alleged distinction between venial and moral sins. Again, purely a man-made concept rooted in nonsense.

Why do I say that?

How long will it take in the lake of fire to pay the penalty for just one 'minor' sin among the tens of thousands of sins we have all committed?

Eternity!

So, dare we pile onto that one sin all the others, eternity remains eternity, for one cannot compound infinity in math. It simply is, and nothing will ever diminish it. There is only ONE eternity, not many.

MM

I am talking from John 10.
And John 10 has no connection to Mathew 7, 13-14.
In John 10, i would suggest that there are meant Israelites believers and believers out of gentiles

✝ John 10:14

"I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine."

✝ John 10:15

"As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep."

✝ John 10:16

"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."

thank you, now please tell me how it is, that it seems you condemn others are you doing that or is it that you do not mean that?
There is no condemnation for anyone in Christ is there? Romans 8:1, and yet everyone still falls short of perfection, and are all also forgiven by God are we not? Blessed are we all, once see from God through Son as risen we are reconciled to learn from mistakes anyone makes and has made to not steal, kill or destroy others anymore. At least this be what God has shown me

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Romans 2:1-4

“Well,” you may be saying, “what terrible people you have been talking about!” But wait a minute! You are just as bad. When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are talking about yourselves, for you do these very same things. And we know that God, in justice, will punish anyone who does such things as these. Do you think that God will judge and condemn others for doing them and overlook you when you do them, too? Don’t you realize how patient he is being with you? Or don’t you care? Can’t you see that he has been waiting all this time without punishing you, to give you time to turn from your sin? His kindness is meant to lead you to repentance.

Pointing out heretical doctrines is not condemnation. Can you point out where I've condemned anyone?

Yes, the Jews who were scattered abroad is who He was talking about. Israel was scattered among the nations back in about 722 BC by Assyria, and they were still scattered abroad in the time of Christ. So, the reference to sheep "not of this fold," what fold? Israel is the only reference each time Jesus refers to His sheep.

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Gentiles were not His sheep.

We today are MORE than sheep:

Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Galatians 4:5-6
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

No more bleating sheep....

MM

the only sin I see left, is not really a sin, yet is once revealed the truth to believe God in risen Son or not personally consciously

There is a sin unto death. let's not invoke that. lets encourage one another to see this amazing truth by Son given us to abide in by being willing, not forced ever as I see this, and I bet you too.
I believe God father of in risen Son for me to grow up unto maturity as called to do that in Hebrews 5:12-6:3 I believe God permitted this once for us all in risen Son for us all
1 John 2:1-2 that is truth that can never be reversed, knowing my Daddy is true, pure and good the only one. That is where I see to stand and be in love to all.
Yes even those that choose to not believe God too
1 Corinthians 2:11
No one can really know what anyone else is thinking or what he is really like except that person himself. And no onecan know God’s thoughts except God’s own Spirit.
1 Corinthians 12:3
But now you are meeting people who claim to speak messages from the Spirit of God. How can you know whether they are really inspired by God or whether they are fakes? Here is the test: no one speaking by the power of the Spiritof God can curse Jesus, and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” and really mean it, unless the Holy Spirit is helping him.
1 Corinthians 12:13
Each of us is a part of the one body of Christ. Some of us are Jews, some are Gentiles, some are slaves, and some are free. But the Holy Spirit has fitted us all together into one body. We have been baptized into Christ’s body by the oneSpirit, and have all been given that same Holy Spirit.

I don't think so. I know so.

I have only said you are coming across that way, you might re-read it yourself
It does to me at least come across condemning as you if you are a pharisee in Luke 18:9-14

Thank you, today after the cross not before as those verses there above are before, now after
I say thank you Father for forgiving me in Son for me and the entire world of people. I just did it again and do not care to harm anyone ever again, I am now turning to you to teach me new, thank you
Love overcomes all evil the love of God to be gotten given to see and believe God in. Thus imputation from Father starts
Being accepted, forgiven and sealed to see it and change from one sin to the next sin to get gone after the other one is gone. God is unity and not confusion for us each to learn new, one Sin at a time
For me it started at 18, the seeing all my problems that came in at one time, confusion was the problem over them all. until I got shown to take the most important problem then at that time and solve it first. Then when got that solved onto the next one. What a relationship between God and anyone that will do that and not be proud over it either, thanks, not that you are being proud, even though it seems you are, I suspect that not be you, thank you, just seems it is.
God loves us all
1 John 2:1-12 amazing grace a gift to respond to in thanksgiving and praise for me at least

This makes no sense. Israelites are Israelites, there is no need to make an different, if he meant the same people.
But believers out of gentiles was unthinkable for the jews, as we know from Acts 10.
And Note that Jesus spoke in John 10,16 from a future happening.
So it fit better to that what we find after pentecost, then your Suggestion he meant the jews in the Diaspora.

I really only use strong language, which you apparently view as condemning, in crucial matters. The OP is sowing confusion in the body of Christ by proclaiming another gospel, which places him under Paul's curse

Oprah Winfrey calls herself a Christian while denying that Jesus is the only way to God.

Looks like no one is taking you up on this. Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding you.

So, as I understand you, you seem to be presenting a case not really or mainly for, can we lose salvation, but foremost, who is really being saved?

1. God's Saving Grace came teaching men to deny ungodly thinking and behavior, and to live godly lives awaiting the return of Jesus Christ who gave Himself to redeem/liberate men from all lawlessness (a.k.a. sin & unrighteousness per 1John) and cleanse for Himself a special/chosen people zealous for good works.
2. Men must repent.
3. All men will appear before Christ's Judgment Seat and be judged & recompensed for what they did in the body - good or bad.
   1. Eternal Life, glory, honor, and peace to men who endured in good works seeking glory, honor and immortality.
   2. Anger and wrath, tribulation and anguish to self-seeking men who do bad, do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness.
4. Ungodly men have snuck in and changed/altered our God's Grace into a lack of self-constraint that involves a man in conduct that violates all bounds of what is acceptable (sounds like a.k.a. sin/lawlessness/unrighteousness).

IOW, maybe Christians have not thought through what God's by Grace through Faith Salvation Plan is in it's entirety and are therefore arguing about the wrong things???

I don’t see salvation as a possession we either have or can lose at all . not really my point was this

“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭2:11-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The reason tbat part matters about teaching us to repent and live right now in this life is because of what they all taught about judgement

“God “will repay each person according to what they have done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.

But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger. There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile; but glory, honor and peace for everyone who does good: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. For God does not show favoritism.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭2:6-11‬ ‭NIV‬‬

i feel like a lot of folks version of grace needs to erase the rest of doctrine like above there

“For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.”
‭‭Ecclesiastes‬ ‭12:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Regarding who’s “ saved “ even me , I take this view we need to appear before the judge first who has the right to give eternal life

“My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭4:4-5‬ ‭NIV‬‬

I believe that when we believe the gospel we have a promise that we shall be saved when the lord returns

Israelites today who are a part of the body of Christ are no longer Israelites...

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

MM

John 1:14 + 17

Also, there is out there a false system of belief called "replacement theology," and that system fils to recognize that the Lord is not at all finished with Israel. The tribulation is the last part of God's plan for Israel in order to accomplish the six things He stated in His written word concerning that period of Jacob's Trouble. The Millennial Kingdom will be a portion of the fulfillment for that Kingdom promised to Abraham nd His descendants.

The Church did not and will not replace Israel.

MM

Here is a question let us say it is possible to lose ones salvation at what point would that happen? id there a certain sin that does it or do you have a certain amount of sins before you hit the limit?