Help..the worship leader is crushing on me.

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Magenta

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I am asking for HELP because the worship leader is flirting and demonstrating interest in me and I dont know what to do about it.
Tell him you are not interested in him and that his interest in you is too much for you under the circumstances.

Be blunt if necessary. That means, letting him know you are creeped out by his behaviour, or at least that you find it
inappropriate. You may also benefit from looking into your lack of boundaries and possible co-dependency issues.


Codependency is characterized by a person belonging to a dysfunctional, one-sided relationship where one person relies on the other for meeting nearly all of their emotional and self-esteem needs. It also describes a relationship that enables another person to maintain their irresponsible, addictive, or underachieving behavior.

The following is a list of symptoms of codependency and being in a codependent relationship.

You don’t need to have them all to qualify as codependent.

Low self-esteem.

Feeling that you’re not good enough or comparing yourself to others are signs of low self-esteem. The tricky thing about self-esteem is that some people think highly of themselves, but it’s only a disguise — they actually feel unlovable or inadequate. Underneath, usually hidden from consciousness, are feelings of shame. Guilt and perfectionism often go along with low self-esteem. If everything is perfect, you don’t feel bad about yourself.

People-pleasing.

It’s fine to want to please someone you care about, but codependents usually don’t think they have a choice. Saying “No” causes them anxiety. Some codependents have a hard time saying “No” to anyone. They go out of their way and sacrifice their own needs to accommodate other people.

Poor boundaries.

Boundaries are sort of an imaginary line between you and others. It divides up what’s yours and somebody else’s, and that applies not only to your body, money, and belongings, but also to your feelings, thoughts and needs. That’s especially where codependents get into trouble. They have blurry or weak boundaries. They feel responsible for other people’s feelings and problems or blame their own on someone else.

Some codependents have rigid boundaries. They are closed off and withdrawn, making it hard for other people to get close to them. Sometimes, people flip back and forth between having weak boundaries and having rigid ones.

Reactivity.

A consequence of poor boundaries is that you react to everyone’s thoughts and feelings. If someone says something you disagree with, you either believe it or become defensive. You absorb their words, because there’s no boundary. With a boundary, you’d realize it was just their opinion and not a reflection of you and not feel threatened by disagreements.

Caretaking.

Another effect of poor boundaries is that if someone else has a problem, you want to help them to the point that you give up yourself. It’s natural to feel empathy and sympathy for someone, but codependents start putting other people ahead of themselves. In fact, they need to help and might feel rejected if another person doesn’t want help. Moreover, they keep trying to help and fix the other person, even when that person clearly isn’t taking their advice.

Control.

Control helps codependents feel safe and secure. Everyone needs some control over events in their life. You wouldn’t want to live in constant uncertainty and chaos, but for codependents, control limits their ability to take risks and share their feelings. Sometimes they have an addiction that either helps them loosen up, like alcoholism, or helps them hold their feelings down, like workaholism, so that they don’t feel out of control. Codependents also need to control those close to them, because they need other people to behave in a certain way to feel okay. In fact, people-pleasing and care-taking can be used to control and manipulate people. Alternatively, codependents are bossy and tell you what you should or shouldn’t do. This is a violation of someone else’s boundary.

Dysfunctional communication.

Codependents have trouble when it comes to communicating their thoughts, feelings and needs. Of course, if you don’t know what you think, feel or need, this becomes a problem. Other times, you know, but you won’t own up to your truth. You’re afraid to be truthful, because you don’t want to upset someone else. Instead of saying, “I don’t like that,” you might pretend that it’s okay or tell someone what to do. Communication becomes dishonest and confusing when you try to manipulate the other person out of fear.

Obsessions.

Codependents have a tendency to spend their time thinking about other people or relationships. This is caused by their dependency and anxieties and fears. They can also become obsessed when they think they’ve made or might make a “mistake.” Sometimes you can lapse into fantasy about how you’d like things to be or about someone you love as a way to avoid the pain of the present. This is one way to stay in denial, discussed below, but it keeps you from living your life.

Dependency.

Codependents need other people to like them to feel okay about themselves. They’re afraid of being rejected or abandoned, even if they can function on their own. Others need always to be in a relationship, because they feel depressed or lonely when they’re by themselves for too long. This trait makes it hard for them to end a relationship, even when the relationship is painful or abusive. They end up feeling trapped.

Denial.

One of the problems people face in getting help for codependency is that they’re in denial about it, meaning that they don’t face their problem. Usually they think the problem is someone else or the situation. They either keep complaining or trying to fix the other person, or go from one relationship or job to another and never own up the fact that they have a problem. Codependents also deny their feelings and needs. Often, they don’t know what they’re feeling and are instead focused on what others are feeling. The same thing goes for their needs. They pay attention to other people’s needs and not their own. They might be in denial of their need for space and autonomy. Although some codependents seem needy, others act like they’re self-sufficient when it comes to needing help. They won’t reach out and have trouble receiving. They are in denial of their vulnerability and need for love and intimacy.

Problems with intimacy.

By this I’m not referring to sex, although sexual dysfunction often is a reflection of an intimacy problem. I’m talking about being open and close with someone in an intimate relationship. Because of the shame and weak boundaries, you might fear that you’ll be judged, rejected, or left. On the other hand, you may fear being smothered in a relationship and losing your autonomy. You might deny your need for closeness and feel that your partner wants too much of your time; your partner complains that you’re unavailable, but he or she is denying his or her need for separateness.

Painful emotions.

Codependency creates stress and leads to painful emotions. Shame and low self-esteem create anxiety and fear about being judged, rejected or abandoned; making mistakes; being a failure; feeling trapped by being close or being alone. The other symptoms lead to feelings of anger and resentment, depression, hopelessness, and despair. When the feelings are too much, you can feel numb. Source
 

melita916

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“I will not and cannot be your accountability partner. I am not interested being in a relationship with you.”
 

HeIsHere

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Well, if nothing else said within this thread resonates with you this should AT LEAST be ringing out in your mind as A BIG


Well, you came on here asking for advice and I think you were given some wise council
here:

and here:

and here:


So,
What does your pastor have to say about this situation?
Oh but look at all the attention. :rolleyes:
 

Kireina

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2 things you can do 😊

1. Tell him you are not interested in him. You are not interested in pursuing anything romantic and his flirting makes you uncomfortable. Continue by saying brother I appreciate your kind and nice personality and we work well together in worship but right now my focus is on the Lord and singing for Him.



2. Or try this, like what others suggested,tell your pastor and if it is possible can the two of you discuss it with the Pastor?

That's it. Hope it helps 😊
 
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As an aside, when a married man who is flirting with a woman who is not his wife is the worship leader at a church...

God help us.
 
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6) I am asking for HELP because the worship leader is flirting and demonstrating interest in me and I dont know what to do about it. If i quit the worship team..then it means i can no longer do worship at church at all. If i stay on the worship team.. i am worried about soul ties and worried about him continuing to demonstrate interest.
First, you should rebuke this married man for flirting with you, and tell him to stop doing so.

If he refuses to stop, then report him to the pastor.

If you report him to the pastor, and the pastor does nothing to stop this man, then go find another church because both the worship leader and the pastor are corrupt in God's eyes.
 
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I'm a 16 yr old girl looking for a serious relationship
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Okay, I know its a weird title for this post..but its totally true. I started singing on the worship team 3 weeks ago. We have a new worship leader in the church and I have noticed the past couple of weeks, him starting to do things like "love" my photos on facebook, and constantly complimenting me, giving shout out's to me during the livestream for things like help him feel better(i gave some simple advice to fix his shoulder) and talking on the livestream about the movie night i put together and how much he enjoyed it. Tonight he kept telling me how annointed a team we are at worship and how he loves worshipping with me and when he came to the movie night, he was kind of flirty and sitting really close next to me on the couch and he wants me to be his accountability partner because he just got out of a relationship with a women back in November and she has apparently become jealous of us doing worship together and I had just been dumped in the beginning of January, so he wants us to make a pact to not talk to our ex's now.
This week, we are supposed to be going out for coffee together to "Get to know each other better" and then this friday, we are supposed to be doing a group dinner/games night together with a few friends.

Point is.. help! Has this ever happend to anyone before? The part that makes it difficult, is that I still very much love the person that broke up with me and while I am not 100% sure, I feel like I am supposed to wait for them. That, it's over right now because they need healing from there first marriage still. But am i stupid for waiting? Am i stupid for saying "God i will wait for him until he is ready?" Am i just missing opportunities then? Thing is, this worship leader is nice..kind..friendly..funny.. but he isn't exactly the kind of guy i would personally date. Somtimes i think he is attractive and other times i do not think so at all. Its true, during worship, we definitly make a great team.. but outside of that? Also, something that concerns me, is his choice in past women in relationship. His first wife, he chose someone who could have almsot been his mother, cause she was significantly older. His first relationship after his divorce, he chose someone who is incredibly needy and jealous and needs to be saved. Somtimes i look at that and go "is there something wrong with this picture?" "Is he attracted to women he thinks need saving?" I dont know..

I guess i am freaking out and i feel guilty. It feels like its cheating on my ex to date someone else. I told him that i would wait for him because he was worth waiting for. My heart loves him. I pray for him every single night..him and his children. We didnt end on bad terms at all. The reason it ended, is because he felt like God was telling him he needed to heal some more and he shouldnt be in a romantic relationship at all. We both had felt like we were supposed to get married and do ministry together. We had dreams, visions, prophetic words about the future. .. UGH i feel crazy even keeping hope alive.

What do i do? I feel like this thing with the worship leader will just keep on growing and thing is.. there is no one else on the worship team..its just me and him and there is no other worship leader. He is it. So its like, if i dont want to do it with him, i would have to literally leave the worship team. We are pretty cautious in not being alone and we dont practice on our own..people are always around.. Sometimes it just seems..intimate? during worship? I'm worried about soul ties.

Help!

Since I'm a guy, with no feminine side, I will reach out with my tool box of solutions to try to fix this simple challenge. 🪚🪛🔨🧰👨‍🔧🔩🔧
It sounds like that's what you are asking for.

There are certain things I refuse to buy at the grocery store because the ingredients are harmful to my body. No matter how delicious the picture on the package looks, once I flip it over to read the ingredients, I already decided to set it down. That helps when I go shopping. It's easier to resist there than to deal with the long term consequences of self inflicted needless suffering.

The picture on the box looks delicious and probably is. A year or more later that doesn't look so good.
It's kinda like the Chick Fila Chicken Sandwich. See this one or two minutes at the >16:00 Mark<

That food illustration is my way of saying, you know the right answer already and if I read you right just need a little more help and encouragement.

I sometimes fail, but the Bible teaches us to treat our church family as brothers, sisters and mothers. I would establish a boundary with him after church when you can talk. Let him know that you think of him as a brother or a friend and appreciate sharing the same gift on the worship team, but also that you are not looking for any other kind of relationship.
If he persists, just remind him that you don't want another relationship and besides, it's not Biblical. You can give a quote from Romans 7 if he's like the Pe pe Le pew type.

If that doesn't work, some say pepper spray is a good deterrent.

PS:. I just read the thread and see he's a married dude. Then I would tell him and your pastor why you are resigning from the worship team.
Then be blunt with him if he pursues you further.
 

Cameron143

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I'm a 16 yr old girl looking for a serious relationship
A serious relationship with Jesus would be awesome. A serious relationship with a young man is not appropriate unless you are ready for marriage.
What is your idea of a serious relationship?
 
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A serious relationship with Jesus would be awesome. A serious relationship with a young man is not appropriate unless you are ready for marriage.
What is your idea of a serious relationship?
My idea of a serious relationship is one where there is without respect and compassion and loyalty and honesty
 

Cameron143

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My idea of a serious relationship is one where there is without respect and compassion and loyalty and honesty
That's kind of vague. How would the relationship work? Would it be exclusive? What would the goal be?
 

cinder

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And isn't this forum for teens?
This thread is posted in the singles forum which is for adult singles more than teens. There's a teens forum as well just click on the christian chat logo in the corner to see a list of all the forums (but be warned just because it is the teens forum, I don't think there's anything that prevents older people from reading or posting content in that forum).
 

Cameron143

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The goal would be to live happy and support each other through everything and live with love and trust
Marriage?
The reason I ask is because everything you are seeking should be available from parents and friends.
Do you know why relationships fail?
 
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Marriage?
The reason I ask is because everything you are seeking should be available from parents and friends.
Do you know why relationships fail?
Listen being young doesn't mean that my relationship won't last as long as we both have the faith and the strength
 

Cameron143

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Listen being young doesn't mean that my relationship won't last as long as we both have the faith and the strength
If you will answer my questions, I'll explain why they are asked. I don't doubt that your intentions are good, only that there are things you haven't taken into account that could prove very harmful down the road. If you like, I'll stop responding. If you want some genuine help from someone who has concern for your spiritual and emotional health, answer the question: do you know why relationships fail?