Dust of your feet

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A question has been on my mind for a couple of months. On Twitter, some Christians frequently use this phrase to end arguments. It seems wrong to go right to a curse from brother and sisters in Christ that are to forgive 70x7 what are your thoughts? Have you ever used this verse. Thanks
 

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A question has been on my mind for a couple of months. On Twitter, some Christians frequently use this phrase to end arguments. It seems wrong to go right to a curse from brother and sisters in Christ that are to forgive 70x7 what are your thoughts? Have you ever used this verse. Thanks
I've said that to people in the past but not anymore; I just shake the dust and move on. No need to part with a final jab.
 

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A question has been on my mind for a couple of months. On Twitter, some Christians frequently use this phrase to end arguments. It seems wrong to go right to a curse from brother and sisters in Christ that are to forgive 70x7 what are your thoughts? Have you ever used this verse. Thanks
Yeah, when someone says that, they are immature believers at best. Also, if it's a discussion about doctrine then no forgiveness is necessary. It's just a discussion.
 
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A question has been on my mind for a couple of months. On Twitter, some Christians frequently use this phrase to end arguments. It seems wrong to go right to a curse from brother and sisters in Christ that are to forgive 70x7 what are your thoughts? Have you ever used this verse. Thanks
I see Matthew 18:24-35 where this was asked by Peter to Jesus, how many times am I to forgive sin? 70x7
What about the same one over and over again done to me, my asking?
What about me , my doing wrong over and over again also? I know and you know Father, "I" do not want to do anymore wrong, yet I have and still can, not able to predict any future event, only spit ball what I might conjecture and then still mess up again. I see now, it is "I" me in the way isn't it?

now read through those verses, and see you being the one forgiven by God through Son, that at that time this was written (Was after the death burial and resurrection) Yet, it was about before his going to that cross to forgive us all, as is now done for us all through Son's one time willing sacrifice, it is finished All are reconciled (2 Cor 5:17-20) just no new life in the risen Son yet given, until one believes God personally, between God and them, personally
Then one does not have to prove to anyone, that they believe, their fruit will reveal it.

Okay, reading those scriptures, I see that person got forgiven 100% of everything he had done. Everything. Then went out and saw another that owed him and demanded payment. And would not forgive that person, even though God forgive him/her.
Matthew 18:24-35
24 In the process, one of his debtors was brought in who owed him $10 million!$10 million, literally, “10,000 talents.” Approximately £3 million. 25 He couldn’t pay, so the king ordered him sold for the debt, also his wife and children and everything he had.
26 “But the man fell down before the king, his face in the dust, and said, ‘Oh, sir, be patient with me and I will pay it all.’
27 “Then the king was filled with pity for him and released him and forgave his debt.
28 “But when the man left the king, he went to a man who owed him $2,000$2,000, approximately £700. and grabbed him by the throat and demanded instant payment.
29 “The man fell down before him and begged him to give him a little time. ‘Be patient and I will pay it,’ he pled.
30 “But his creditor wouldn’t wait. He had the man arrested and jailed until the debt would be paid in full.
31 “Then the man’s friends went to the king and told him what had happened. 32 And the king called before him the man he had forgiven and said, ‘You evil-hearted wretch! Here I forgave you all that tremendous debt, just because you asked me to—33 shouldn’t you have mercy on others, just as I had mercy on you?’
34 “Then the angry king sent the man to the torture chamber until he had paid every last penny due. 35 So shall my heavenly Father do to you if you refuse to truly forgive your brothers.”

Unfortunately today that last verse has caused troubles, in having to obey or else attitudes of flesh nature, you better or else. Over turning to being willing to obey God in risen Son as forgiven. Father asks and we the kids say yes, and do, not always at first like Jonah, but we do.
There is a gigantic difference to me at least
Having to, is under Law that keeps flesh in sin again and again and again as stated in Romans 7 to me at least.
Romans 7:10 I found the Law to be death to me, it was suppose to save me, I now see it can't as is revealed in and out of the first Testament, no one can.
"I" need God, anyone else, thank you
Believe God, receive from God and see new as you then begin to grow up in maturity, thank you Father and Son as Won (One)
So, Son did it in our place to give us new in his risen Life for each of us kids to love all, not a few as is still taught by religion to only love those that love them back under Law
Born new is willingly loving all, even whenever anyone does not feel like loving anyone over the wrongs done to you by them.
Not easy to see past the wrongs done to us each personally. yet when you do, you will be freed for sure
the truth sets one free indeed and there is a growth first unto maturity to eat meat and not need milk anymore
Hebrews 5:12-Chapter 6 verse 3 of chapter 6 states if God will permit. I see that If is really since, not an if as got translated as an if, when in Greek, if means since
 

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A question has been on my mind for a couple of months. On Twitter, some Christians frequently use this phrase to end arguments. It seems wrong to go right to a curse from brother and sisters in Christ that are to forgive 70x7 what are your thoughts? Have you ever used this verse. Thanks
People read scripture and later they feel justified by it someone read this commission Jesus gave his apostles

“And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick. And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart. And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them. And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭9:2-6‬ ‭

and people use it to feel superior in some way and justified when someone disagrees with thier view you can see how misapplied it is in that scenario

when they are just one sinner testifying against another sinner shaking dust off thier feet isn’t going to make them clean
 
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People read scripture and later they feel justified by it someone read this commission Jesus gave his apostles

“And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick. And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart. And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them. And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭9:2-6‬ ‭

and people use it to feel superior in some way and justified when someone disagrees with thier view you can see how misapplied it is in that scenario

when they are just one sinner testifying against another sinner shaking dust off thier feet isn’t going to make them clean
Thanks for posting the actual Scripture containing the dust off reference.
I don't remember it ever being applied in the NT, and the passage itself indicates
the disciples were well-received "everywhere".
 

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Thanks for posting the actual Scripture containing the dust off reference.
I don't remember it ever being applied in the NT, and the passage itself indicates
the disciples were well-received "everywhere".
Yeah there’s another place where it tells that it’s a testimony against a city that rejected the apostles pre cross

“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭10:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s about Israel’s judgement that’s why you don’t hear it after the cross.
 

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A question has been on my mind for a couple of months. On Twitter, some Christians frequently use this phrase to end arguments. It seems wrong to go right to a curse from brother and sisters in Christ that are to forgive 70x7 what are your thoughts? Have you ever used this verse. Thanks
Hi you said "it seems" maybe just ask one how did they mean it. I have never used Twitter/X or all the others only because.... hmm whats a good word about me.. hmm in heaven after this is all over to find me I will be waaaaaay up in the MTN. HAHA No really. But God has this way of showing you something you never seen as in.. wow I never knew it was this AWESOME WONDERFUL to be together with all my family praising our Father.. who knows.

Now if I was to say that shake the dust off my feet.. well its this "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them". Its not a curse. Thinking.. I think I would say it in a case where allot of us were debating and no one is listening or its not going good maybe then but say I was talking to just Pilgrimshope... and I disagreed or anything for that matter.. I would never say it. Not something I ever use.. I think I may have.
 
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it’s about Israel’s judgement that’s why you don’t hear it after the cross.
This aligns with another account as the Israelite Lost everything "According to a legend still retold in the 21st century, Sheffey held several weeks of meetings in his hometown of Ivanhoe. When the citizens rejected his message, preferring the sort of debauchery that characterized prosperous Appalachian mining towns, Sheffey shook the dust off his feet and condemned the place to hell. “Whether you believe in it or not, after that happened, we lost everything,” said an Ivanhoe resident in a 2011 documentary. In fact, entire houses disappeared into the" ground, swallowed by sinkholes"
 

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A question has been on my mind for a couple of months. On Twitter, some Christians frequently use this phrase to end arguments. It seems wrong to go right to a curse from brother and sisters in Christ that are to forgive 70x7 what are your thoughts? Have you ever used this verse. Thanks
I think it means to forget about the people of that town , let nothing of them cling to u , don't take anything of them and their ways with u when u leave , move on without looking back . That's just my impression , a bit like when Lot fled Sodom , don't look back and don't b contaminated by their ways .
 
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This aligns with another account as the Israelite Lost everything "According to a legend still retold in the 21st century, Sheffey held several weeks of meetings in his hometown of Ivanhoe. When the citizens rejected his message, preferring the sort of debauchery that characterized prosperous Appalachian mining towns, Sheffey shook the dust off his feet and condemned the place to hell. “Whether you believe in it or not, after that happened, we lost everything,” said an Ivanhoe resident in a 2011 documentary. In fact, entire houses disappeared into the" ground, swallowed by sinkholes"
Interesting , what I was meaning biblically is , if we read the whole section there we can see that the audience is specific

These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

………And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭10:5-6, 14-15‬ ‭

But at this point when it’s sent to all people of the earth it’s never heard again

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭
 
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A question has been on my mind for a couple of months. On Twitter, some Christians frequently use this phrase to end arguments. It seems wrong to go right to a curse from brother and sisters in Christ that are to forgive 70x7 what are your thoughts? Have you ever used this verse. Thanks
It's not a curse. It just means that you don't want anything from someone; even the dust that stuck to your sandals while you were on their land.
 
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Could the wiping the dust off one's feet be:
not letting it get to you, move forward and continue in belief, Faith and Trust, no matter what
I see a gigantic problem today in flesh natures. It is not letting go of not being heard, the want to be heard and listened to and approved of others.
When God has accepted us all in Son, Forgiven us all in Son, makes new life where one abides willingly even in troubles, and does not harm anyone ever again (even though might feel like it, doesn't follow through and if does, apologizes and learns new). Does not even have any thought of it, as grow up into maturity given them to see and be new in Father and Son as Won for them anyways, and continue to grow in growth of lo e and mercy never leaving them. Sin is Gone in them by God for them never of any self effort, all those that do not quit, thanks
We will always have trouble here on earth, which trouble can separate anyone from God's Love, none! I see now, troubles are to beset anyone it can. anywhere anyhow.
God remains in love to us all and I see to respond and not create or make anything ever again
God Won, I believe, received and am new by God for me and all others too, thank you
Wipe the dust off our feet and go forward, putting past behind us as fast as it happens in front of me at least as in Paul 3 tells me about that in verses 11-15
Thanks, a little meat to be digested with Father and each personally in belief to see and rest in too
Psalm 100:4, 103:12
 
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I think it would be interesting to know what gospel message they were to preach. Certainly won't be christ crucified.
It would be rather come and see.
Remembering the 12 did not believe Jesus to be crucified nor had it taken place yet.
It reminds me of the parable of the king preparing a great feast and the excuses some had to not attend.
 

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I think it would be interesting to know what gospel message they were to preach. Certainly won't be christ crucified.
It would be rather come and see.
Remembering the 12 did not believe Jesus to be crucified nor had it taken place yet.
It reminds me of the parable of the king preparing a great feast and the excuses some had to not attend.
The Gospel of the Kingdom ! Mat 6 V 33 , Mat 8 V 12 , Mat 9 V 35 , Mat 12 V 28 , Mat 13 V 19 , Mat 13 V 43 , Mat 16 V 28 , Mat 24 V 14 , Mark 1 V 14 , Mark 15 V 43 , Luke 4 V 43 , Luke 8 V 1 , Luke 9 V 2 , Luke 9 V 60 , Luke 11 V 2 , Luke 16 V 16 , Luke 17 V 20 , Luke 19 v 11-15 , Luke 22 V 16-30 , Acts 1 V 3 , Acts 28 V 31 , Revelation 11 V 15 . There r more verses but I thought maybe this is enough to keep u busy 😁 .
 
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I think it would be interesting to know what gospel message they were to preach. Certainly won't be christ crucified.
It would be rather come and see.
Remembering the 12 did not believe Jesus to be crucified nor had it taken place yet.
It reminds me of the parable of the king preparing a great feast and the excuses some had to not attend.
thank you putting it in perspective
Dispensationalism
Where it was at happening when reading scripture to see at what time these were in.
Yes, to before the death, burial, and resurrection of Son, that not one understood was coming to be, at that present time then.
Then we, at least I see Acts, begins straitening it all out, when Jesus is risen, and hangs out forty days, teaching the disciples to be ready for Daddy in the Holy Spirit to enter them and then Pentecost.
This Pentecost is often not seen correctly in truth. It took a while for me to see
It. It was not the Disciples speaking to the crowd. It was Father, Daddy, PaPa doing that through them to the crowd, telling them Son is risen for them to be new in and not have to do Law anymore to be in, God has done that for you in your stead, believe receive and see.. you are in, since whoever believes me (God Speaking), sees this, those that will not let go of this amazing grace, I God Father give, each see as this world causes and creates doubt through first birth flesh not in second birth, Spirit and Truth, which takes away troubles, whenever in any troubles (troubles continue, yet new view of troubles) , contentment leads, for anyone to get established in truth of God for them.
It, takes to not deny God no matter what anyone goes through to eventually see through the veil. So I say to you as Paul does in Col. 1:21-23 do not deny God okay? If or since you will not deny God you will see the end and be content in all things good or bad too. thank you
 

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Could the wiping the dust off one's feet be:
not letting it get to you, move forward and continue in belief, Faith and Trust, no matter what
I see a gigantic problem today in flesh natures. It is not letting go of not being heard, the want to be heard and listened to and approved of others.
When God has accepted us all in Son, Forgiven us all in Son, makes new life where one abides willingly even in troubles, and does not harm anyone ever again (even though might feel like it, doesn't follow through and if does, apologizes and learns new). Does not even have any thought of it, as grow up into maturity given them to see and be new in Father and Son as Won for them anyways, and continue to grow in growth of lo e and mercy never leaving them. Sin is Gone in them by God for them never of any self effort, all those that do not quit, thanks
We will always have trouble here on earth, which trouble can separate anyone from God's Love, none! I see now, troubles are to beset anyone it can. anywhere anyhow.
God remains in love to us all and I see to respond and not create or make anything ever again
God Won, I believe, received and am new by God for me and all others too, thank you
Wipe the dust off our feet and go forward, putting past behind us as fast as it happens in front of me at least as in Paul 3 tells me about that in verses 11-15
Thanks, a little meat to be digested with Father and each personally in belief to see and rest in too
Psalm 100:4, 103:12
It very simply tells us what it’s about as the Bible usually does

“And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭6:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

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But at this point when it’s sent to all people of the earth it’s never heard again

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭
It's actually in Acts13; when the Jews stir up the leaders of the city to kick out Paul and Barnabas; they shake the dust from their feet when they leave.
 

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It's actually in Acts13; when the Jews stir up the leaders of the city to kick out Paul and Barnabas; they shake the dust from their feet when they leave.
Indeed you’re correct but see how it still applies to the people of Israel ?

“But the Jews stirred up the devout and honourable women, and the chief men of the city, and raised persecution against Paul and Barnabas, and expelled them out of their coasts. But they shook off the dust of their feet against them, and came unto Iconium.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭13:50-